Hi Dan, John, and all:
Thanks for your suggestions! And thank John for your offer!
When is the next club casting?
Best,
Yang
On 9/14/12, John Bilotta <obassociates@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Just to pitch in, I second Dan's points on rods, especially that "most
> will work just fine."
>
> I have the TCX 12'6", it is a great, fast action rod affectionately called
> by some the "deathstar." I use mine on the river and up in NY. I usually
> fish it with a 550 grain skagit line and a 10-12 sink tip.
>
> That said, I am not sure I would recommend this rod to a brand new TH
> caster. I generally recommend 7wts between 13' and 13'6", with a more
> moderate-fast action, for most users.
>
> You can try my TCX some weekend at club casting, and several other 7wts and
> see what you like.
>
> Chrs
> John
>
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:
>
>> Yang, Mike, and all,
>>
>> Great questions! While all of the options may seem dizzying, the great
>> thing is, most will work just fine. I have my opinions, and others have
>> theirs. Simply put, there are many ways to play this game. John Bilotta
>> and I have fished for Stripers, Shad, and other species out here with
>> everything from 11' - 15' rods, and in nearly every line weight
>> configuration.
>>
>> My short answer is, any two-handed rod from 11'-14' that will handle a
>> minimum Grain weight of 400 Grains+ will work great. Beyond that, it is a
>> matter of preference. In my opinion, I like a longer rod because I can
>> span the widest range of conditions if I have a single hand 9' rod and a
>> Double in the 13'-14' range. I find when I am fishing BIG water (for
>> anything), I like my BIG rod, and when the water is small or the fish are
>> in close, it's hard to beat a single hand rod, especially if you get
>> proficient making Spey Casts with it. A switch rod is light and fun, and
>> it nicely fills the niches between these two scenarios, but it is
>> certainly the master of neither.
>>
>> About the surf, there are several schools of thought, and all are valid.
>> Personally, I much prefer my long rods in the surf and fish my 14' 9weight
>> the most. As you know, the surf zone is BIG water, and a long rod has
>> many advantages when lifting line over waves, repositioning line for
>> another cast, and casting repeatedly with the least amount of effort.
>> Again, these are only my opinions, but they are based on actual fishing
>> experiences with rods from 9'-15'.
>>
>> About the Erie/Ontario tribs, I have far less experience than others here,
>> so I hope Richie, Rob, John, and others will chime in. The tribs I have
>> fished for Steelhead I could cover extremely well with a single hand rod
>> and Spey Casts. There are many specialized lines made for this type of
>> fishing these days as well, which can maximize the efficiency of single
>> hand rods in the smaller streams.
>>
>> For lines, I fish a Skagit line with different tips in both the Potomac
>> and in the surf. Many internet forums suggested that Skagit lines and
>> sustained anchor casts would not work well in the Surf, but I have found
>> the opposite to be true. There is merit and value to learning to cast and
>> fish with other types of lines, and I do, but day in and day out I find
>> the Skagit set up to be the best for what I do. Especially since
>> stripping line is a useful part of my retrieve for imparting action to the
>> fly when fishing Shad, Stripers, Bluefish, etc. Of course, I can swing
>> with it two when that is the desired presentation.
>>
>> About the reels you both mention, the Hydros 5 will have plenty of
>> capacity for any Switch or Spey setup from 11'-14' and for line ratings of
>> #6-#9. I think it is a bit big actually for the 11'-12'6" rods, but that
>> is my opinion. I fish a #5 Mirage (same capacity) on my 14' 9weight and
>> find the balance to be perfect, but I had to back it with Gel Spun (GSP)
>> to get the capacity I want. The Access #4 reel mentioned will work on a
>> switch rod, but will be a bit light to balance anything much over 11' in
>> length, regardless of line rating.
>>
>> By far, the best thing you guys can do is get down on the river with John
>> Bilotta and others when we gather for casting sessions. Most of the rods
>> described above are available for a test drive, and with nearly every line
>> system imaginable. I hope this helps a bit, and I look forward to other's
>> opinions.
>>
>> Dan Davala
>>
>> On Friday, September 14, 2012 8:53:15 AM UTC-4, Mike D. wrote:
>> Yang - It's as if you read my mind. I was thinking of asking the same
>> question, and we've got nearly identical set-ups (7-wt. for steelhead,
>> 9-wt. for stripers). My main concern is finding something that could work
>> in the surf/on the Potomac/up on the Erie tribs. Is this possible? I
>> guess we'll find out. I'm also curious about the appropriate line which
>> might be able to function for all purposes. The whole
>> spey/switch/shooting head line system thing confuses the hell out of me.
>> And, like you, I was curious about capacity on my Orvis Access IV
>> (7-9-wt.).
>>
>> People have mentioned Rise Fishing Co. rods in the past, and they're
>> supposed to be coming out with some spey rods in the not-too-distant
>> future. Their prices are fantastic, so I'm super-interested in what
>> they're going to offer. Those Sages look sweet, but I love saving $$$
>> (and trying out rods from various manufacturers). Excited to hear some
>> input!
>>
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