Thursday, 31 May 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Confluence - Rappahannock & Rapida

Mark - I hope your folding wading staff, from those we got a few years back, is still in good working condition.  I haven't used mine too much.  Don't forget to pack it for your trip! - Dallen

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:29 PM, HeaveToo <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:
Be VERY careful.  The rocks are very slippery.

The Rappidan and Rappahannock Rivers are rubble style rivers.  There are areas of silt as well.  The smallmouth tend to hold to rocks.  They also like current.  If you find deep cuts with rocks and currents you have found a good area.

I have spent a lot of time wading this river system.  Be careful where you step.  Watch out for slick rocks.  A wading staff may help as well.

If you can find it and get access to it, an area on the River called Snake Castle is well known for big fish.  I have caught a few good ones there and lost the biggest smallie I have ever hooked in that area.  That fish made the 20" one that I caught look small!  Spit my fly after I had him on for a few minutes. 

When the water gets down a little you can, in the early morning but especially in the evenings, stalk fish that are feeding.  Nothing is better than seeing a fish and placing the perfect cast to it and watching it take the fly. 

If you find a little current, mid-pool, with deeper water, and a few downed trees in the area a crayfish pattern is good.  Deep water, current, and large rocks are good for Madtom patterns.  Edges of weed beds are good for poppers.  Later in the season grass hopper patterns are deadly!


On Friday, May 25, 2012 11:18:43 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
I'm contemplating a Fathers Day trip to the confluence of the Rappahannock and Rapidan for smallmouth.  Companion in this possible outing is a total fly rodding newbie. I've got a copy of Switchfishers book to review in the meantime.  Also under consideration is Harpers Ferry and Potomac below Damn #5  

Any and all contributions of advice/caution/warning ;-) are appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Confluence - Rappahannock & Rapida

Be VERY careful.  The rocks are very slippery.

The Rappidan and Rappahannock Rivers are rubble style rivers.  There are areas of silt as well.  The smallmouth tend to hold to rocks.  They also like current.  If you find deep cuts with rocks and currents you have found a good area.

I have spent a lot of time wading this river system.  Be careful where you step.  Watch out for slick rocks.  A wading staff may help as well.

If you can find it and get access to it, an area on the River called Snake Castle is well known for big fish.  I have caught a few good ones there and lost the biggest smallie I have ever hooked in that area.  That fish made the 20" one that I caught look small!  Spit my fly after I had him on for a few minutes. 

When the water gets down a little you can, in the early morning but especially in the evenings, stalk fish that are feeding.  Nothing is better than seeing a fish and placing the perfect cast to it and watching it take the fly. 

If you find a little current, mid-pool, with deeper water, and a few downed trees in the area a crayfish pattern is good.  Deep water, current, and large rocks are good for Madtom patterns.  Edges of weed beds are good for poppers.  Later in the season grass hopper patterns are deadly!

On Friday, May 25, 2012 11:18:43 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
I'm contemplating a Fathers Day trip to the confluence of the Rappahannock and Rapidan for smallmouth.  Companion in this possible outing is a total fly rodding newbie. I've got a copy of Switchfishers book to review in the meantime.  Also under consideration is Harpers Ferry and Potomac below Damn #5  

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Confluence - Rappahannock & Rapida

Its easy. I took my 10 year old brother down there. Hes like 5 foot 6 and 100 lbs. He was a lil scared because it was his first wading expierience. But it was effortless, some very deep spots but a wading stick made it an enjoyable 3 hr fish.

Danny

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On May 31, 2012 4:20 PM, "Mark Sofman" <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, HeaveToo, esp for the patterns.  How's the wading in the area where the Rapidan joins the Rappahannock?


Mark




On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:09 PM, HeaveToo <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:
I am familiar with the Rappahannock and Rapidan Rivers.  They hold good smallmouth and a lot of them.

Here are some flies that have worked for me:

Shanks white streamer,
Murray's Madtom
Yellow Poppers
Redheaded flasher
Hellgramite nymphs
Crawfish patterns

The fish in these areas are easy to pattern and a blast to catch. 

On Friday, May 25, 2012 11:18:43 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
I'm contemplating a Fathers Day trip to the confluence of the Rappahannock and Rapidan for smallmouth.  Companion in this possible outing is a total fly rodding newbie. I've got a copy of Switchfishers book to review in the meantime.  Also under consideration is Harpers Ferry and Potomac below Damn #5  

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Confluence - Rappahannock & Rapida

Thanks, HeaveToo, esp for the patterns.  How's the wading in the area where the Rapidan joins the Rappahannock?


Mark




On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:09 PM, HeaveToo <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:
I am familiar with the Rappahannock and Rapidan Rivers.  They hold good smallmouth and a lot of them.

Here are some flies that have worked for me:

Shanks white streamer,
Murray's Madtom
Yellow Poppers
Redheaded flasher
Hellgramite nymphs
Crawfish patterns

The fish in these areas are easy to pattern and a blast to catch. 

On Friday, May 25, 2012 11:18:43 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
I'm contemplating a Fathers Day trip to the confluence of the Rappahannock and Rapidan for smallmouth.  Companion in this possible outing is a total fly rodding newbie. I've got a copy of Switchfishers book to review in the meantime.  Also under consideration is Harpers Ferry and Potomac below Damn #5  

Any and all contributions of advice/caution/warning ;-) are appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Confluence - Rappahannock & Rapida

I am familiar with the Rappahannock and Rapidan Rivers.  They hold good smallmouth and a lot of them.

Here are some flies that have worked for me:

Shanks white streamer,
Murray's Madtom
Yellow Poppers
Redheaded flasher
Hellgramite nymphs
Crawfish patterns

The fish in these areas are easy to pattern and a blast to catch. 

On Friday, May 25, 2012 11:18:43 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
I'm contemplating a Fathers Day trip to the confluence of the Rappahannock and Rapidan for smallmouth.  Companion in this possible outing is a total fly rodding newbie. I've got a copy of Switchfishers book to review in the meantime.  Also under consideration is Harpers Ferry and Potomac below Damn #5  

Any and all contributions of advice/caution/warning ;-) are appreciated.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Changes Proposed for Gravelly Point, Roaches Run

The guy in the kayak got a nice catfish and a small bass. He was surrounded by gar. There was a Baltimore oriole (the bird, not Cal) eating berries on a tree near him too.
 
Rob Snowhite



From: Adam Soller <adam.k.soller@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:58 PM
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Changes Proposed for Gravelly Point, Roaches Run

Saw someone out in their kayak yesterday evening (7pm-ish) near the
partially submerged tree and another gentleman wading this morning
around 7:45am on the south end of Roach's Run.

If either of you are on here, how did you fare?


On May 30, 9:46 pm, "Eric Y." <theericyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stench. There are a few near one of my favorite trout streams. Usually
> fine, occasionally you get a bad breeze, though.
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> On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:09:30 PM UTC-4, Michael Malone wrote:
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> > FYI
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> >http://www.arlnow.com/2012/05/30/changes-proposed-for-gravelly-point-...
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> > Looks like a boat ramp for Roaches Run is in the cards. I'm unsure what a
> > waterless bathroom will add to the mix.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Changes Proposed for Gravelly Point, Roaches Run

Saw someone out in their kayak yesterday evening (7pm-ish) near the
partially submerged tree and another gentleman wading this morning
around 7:45am on the south end of Roach's Run.

If either of you are on here, how did you fare?


On May 30, 9:46 pm, "Eric Y." <theericyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stench. There are a few near one of my favorite trout streams. Usually
> fine, occasionally you get a bad breeze, though.
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> On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:09:30 PM UTC-4, Michael Malone wrote:
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> > FYI
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> >http://www.arlnow.com/2012/05/30/changes-proposed-for-gravelly-point-...
>
> > Looks like a boat ramp for Roaches Run is in the cards. I'm unsure what a
> > waterless bathroom will add to the mix.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly line for surf fishing?

I don't really know about the fishing conditions in Delaware and SC, but while living on the Cape, I only used a floating line or very slow sinking intermediate when fishing from shore. It's tough to say which to buy if you'll only buy one, because it'll heavily depend on where on the Cape you're fishing since the conditions vary so greatly. You aren't often getting into deep water when surf fishing, so there will be two main scenarios. The stripers and bluefish will be breaking at the surface and you'll toss a surface fly, or they'll be near the top of the water column and you'll throw a clouser, sand eel, etc. It'll be weighted and it'll be easy to get down to the right depth anyway. Of course, there will always be exceptions, but in my experience, that covers you in 95% of the shore situations I fished. 

Scientific Anglers does make a great saltwater specific line in floating, sinking, and intermediate. It's called the Mastery Saltwater Striped Bass Taper Fly Line. It'll be good for fishing the bulky flies you usually deal with for stripers. I'd also recommend the Orvis "Saltwater All-Rounder WonderLine" (a floating line) which is on sale right now for $23, but they don't have 9-wt available. 

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:40:25 AM UTC-4, Mike Diakiwsky wrote:
Hey All - I'm hoping the TPFR community can give me some advice.  I recently got my hands on a 9-wt. rod and I'm looking for an appropriate fly line.  I intend to fish the surf (east coast) with this outfit.  I doubt I'll be using it in a boat (deeper water) very often, if at all.  My folks go to Cape Cod every once in awhile and I'd like to take the rod along and see what I could hook into (stripers/blues?)  Also, I make a typical trip to the beach every year with friends (anywhere between Delaware and South Carolina) and I'd like to take the rod along so I don't have to just sit on the beach and drink all day... although that's not bad either.  I have no idea what I'd hook into, I just found a hell of a price on a 9-wt. and I figured it would handle a nice range of saltwater activity.

Do you think any of these sale Orvis lines are suitable?  I'll basically be chucking baitfish patterns all the time.  This coastal stuff is totally new to me, so please let me know if I should size up and consider a 10-wt. line.  Thanks in advance for any input.  And if none of these lines are suitable, just let me know.  Just trying to save a buck, if possible.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HG
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HL
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=9L9T

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Wednesday, 30 May 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Changes Proposed for Gravelly Point, Roaches Run

Stench. There are a few near one of my favorite trout streams. Usually fine, occasionally you get a bad breeze, though.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:09:30 PM UTC-4, Michael Malone wrote:
FYI
http://www.arlnow.com/2012/05/30/changes-proposed-for-gravelly-point-roaches-run/

Looks like a boat ramp for Roaches Run is in the cards. I'm unsure what a waterless bathroom will add to the mix.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Changes Proposed for Gravelly Point, Roaches Run

FYI
http://www.arlnow.com/2012/05/30/changes-proposed-for-gravelly-point-roaches-run/

Looks like a boat ramp for Roaches Run is in the cards. I'm unsure what a waterless bathroom will add to the mix.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 5/20 on Accotink Bay -- lots of sunfish, two large bass, missed snakehead, and a little yellow bird

Hi Miles:  I'll be visiting my sister in Fairfax the 2nd week of June.  I'm an ardent flyfisherman and kayak fisherman. I used to live in NoVA but never fished the tidal Potomac.  Can you give me some access recommendations and directions?  I had looked at the Accotink creek area but never got to it. Also I considered some of the water around National airport.  There was some kind of lagoon in front of it or the Pentagon that I thought would make for good fishing when the current picks up with tidal flow.  Can you give me some help?  I'm looking for some bass fishing. I fish mostly on a weedy local lake and use Rainy's Diver foam head flies.  They work great on the LMB up here.
Thanks
Syl

On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:51:59 PM UTC-4, Miles wrote:
Chris S. took me up on my offer to paddle around in my canoe, The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, this evening and we had a good time. Photos attached: as always aboard The Wreck, the bowperson gets the best fish. Chris, a relative newcomer to bass fishing, pulled two beautiful fish out, about ten minutes apart from each other. 

We put in at the Ft. Belvoir Archery Range and paddled out to the mouth of Accotink Bay, just after low tide at 2:30pm or so. There were carp tearing around in the weeds -- we could hear them bumping and shaking the vegetation -- but neither of us got a clear shot at one to put a fly in front of it. We then paddled up the creek a ways, getting in front of the tide, and started hooking in to small sunfish -- primarily bluegill, but also some healthy smallmouth bass and a nice crappie. Chris fished a wooly bugger mostly, while I fished various flies including the girdle bug (for the Beer Tyers at the beginners table). The fish were fun, but on the small side for our 8 wts. I explained to Chris that bigger fish tend to hold close to steep banks or near structure; he used that information to hook a nice bass, which spat his fly before we could boat it.

We went back up the creek until it started getting too tight to cast, then turned around. The little yellow bird hopped down into an overhanging branch and checked us out, so I took his photo, all the while thinking, "Oh, the flies I could tie with your feathers, my little yellow friend." Stupid Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918.

As we came back down the creek, the tide had come in a bit, so we fished some of the same holes -- getting lots of fat little bluegill. I started using a popper, and Chris was using his wooly bugger. At one point, we passed a stump I remember had a deep hole next to it -- I had seen it at low tide. I fished the popper to it a couple of times, with no takers. I told Chris to try his wooly bugger, figuring that if the smaller fish weren't there, it must hold a bigger fish. Chris cast and immediately hooked into a nice bass -- the larger of the two in the photos.

A few casts later, Chris was into the next bass -- this time without my prompting. I meanwhile decided to change my leader, which had been shortened by a couple wind knots. As I was working, Chris said some mostly unprintable things which included the word, "Snakehead!". I looked up and saw something on the surface, but it went down before I could ID it. We watched until it came up, and I kid you not, this thing was the largest snakehead I have ever seen. It looked to be at least three feet long -- and there might have been another, smaller fish with it. Chris cast to it a couple times, with no luck, and then I backed us off to put in the anchor. After a couple minutes I was back in the game with a frog pattern, but the snakehead seemed to have wandered off.

We kept fishing but didn't have any remarkable success for the rest of the evening. We did see some more fish, probably a snakehead, and I got a swirl on a popper that was a big fish but not at all bass-like (maybe a snakehead?). Either way, it didn't take the fly.

We put to shore around 8pm, just as the sun was setting across the water. Both parties agreed it had been an excellent outing and we would try again at the next available opportunity. All fish were released unharmed.


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Tuesday, 29 May 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly line for surf fishing?

I love my Rio Outbound. Intermediate. Super heavy weight forward. One false cast and I can shoot nearly the whole line out there.

On 5/29/2012 3:23 PM, Matt Geiman wrote:
>From my little experience in surf fishing you'll want at least a full intermediate line, and possibly a full sinking for deeper/rougher water. You should not use anything with a floating section because it will be tossed around by the waves.
As far as up-lining. I've found it to be kind of a personal preference based on how you cast. It also depends on the action of the rod, and size of flies. For example,  I like to up line my 8 weight Helios(very fast action) when I'm casting big bass bugs. If you can, I'd recomend test casting some lines with a clouser tied on before buying one. 

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:40:25 AM UTC-4, Mike Diakiwsky wrote:
Hey All - I'm hoping the TPFR community can give me some advice.  I recently got my hands on a 9-wt. rod and I'm looking for an appropriate fly line.  I intend to fish the surf (east coast) with this outfit.  I doubt I'll be using it in a boat (deeper water) very often, if at all.  My folks go to Cape Cod every once in awhile and I'd like to take the rod along and see what I could hook into (stripers/blues?)  Also, I make a typical trip to the beach every year with friends (anywhere between Delaware and South Carolina) and I'd like to take the rod along so I don't have to just sit on the beach and drink all day... although that's not bad either.  I have no idea what I'd hook into, I just found a hell of a price on a 9-wt. and I figured it would handle a nice range of saltwater activity.

Do you think any of these sale Orvis lines are suitable?  I'll basically be chucking baitfish patterns all the time.  This coastal stuff is totally new to me, so please let me know if I should size up and consider a 10-wt. line.  Thanks in advance for any input.  And if none of these lines are suitable, just let me know.  Just trying to save a buck, if possible.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HG
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HL
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=9L9T

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac River Smallmouth Club meeting, Wed., May 30- Richard Martin from Potomac Paddlesports

Richard Martin from Potomac Paddlesports will be the guest speaker at
the PRSC meeting on May 30th. He will primarily discuss things that
you should consider before purchasing a new kayak as well as water
safety tips.

Richard is a native Marylander. He lives in Ellicott City with his
Wife and two children. Martin is a "shop survivalist," primitive
skills expert, owl caretaker, hunter, play-boater, and Level 2 archery
instructor. Rich does a little bit of everything, including the
occasional repair or customer outfitting installation for your kayak.

In his spare time, Rich can often be found caring for a barred owl
named Ranger with the Howard County Conservancy's Owl Outreach
Program. He's also a primitive skills expert, which means he's the guy
you hope to have around when you become stranded on an island or lost
in the woods for a long period of time. Richard is also a passionate
hunter and avid outdoorsman.

7:15 PM

Open to everyone!

Vienna Fire Station, 400 Center St., Vienna, VA

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly line for surf fishing?

From my little experience in surf fishing you'll want at least a full intermediate line, and possibly a full sinking for deeper/rougher water. You should not use anything with a floating section because it will be tossed around by the waves.
As far as up-lining. I've found it to be kind of a personal preference based on how you cast. It also depends on the action of the rod, and size of flies. For example,  I like to up line my 8 weight Helios(very fast action) when I'm casting big bass bugs. If you can, I'd recomend test casting some lines with a clouser tied on before buying one. 

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:40:25 AM UTC-4, Mike Diakiwsky wrote:
Hey All - I'm hoping the TPFR community can give me some advice.  I recently got my hands on a 9-wt. rod and I'm looking for an appropriate fly line.  I intend to fish the surf (east coast) with this outfit.  I doubt I'll be using it in a boat (deeper water) very often, if at all.  My folks go to Cape Cod every once in awhile and I'd like to take the rod along and see what I could hook into (stripers/blues?)  Also, I make a typical trip to the beach every year with friends (anywhere between Delaware and South Carolina) and I'd like to take the rod along so I don't have to just sit on the beach and drink all day... although that's not bad either.  I have no idea what I'd hook into, I just found a hell of a price on a 9-wt. and I figured it would handle a nice range of saltwater activity.

Do you think any of these sale Orvis lines are suitable?  I'll basically be chucking baitfish patterns all the time.  This coastal stuff is totally new to me, so please let me know if I should size up and consider a 10-wt. line.  Thanks in advance for any input.  And if none of these lines are suitable, just let me know.  Just trying to save a buck, if possible.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HG
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HL
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=9L9T

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Bethany Beach

I've done pretty well catching small blues & rockfish along the marshes of the inlet side... Depends on the wind, waves and tides but sometimes you can pull in some nice fish from the surf, tho probably not on a holiday weekend. 

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:54:17 AM UTC-4, Zach on the Hill wrote:
Hey gang,

I am going to be in Bethany Beach this weekend and was wondering if
anyone had any advice or intel on any opportunities while I am there?

Thanks and all the best -

Zach

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fly line for surf fishing?

Hey All - I'm hoping the TPFR community can give me some advice.  I recently got my hands on a 9-wt. rod and I'm looking for an appropriate fly line.  I intend to fish the surf (east coast) with this outfit.  I doubt I'll be using it in a boat (deeper water) very often, if at all.  My folks go to Cape Cod every once in awhile and I'd like to take the rod along and see what I could hook into (stripers/blues?)  Also, I make a typical trip to the beach every year with friends (anywhere between Delaware and South Carolina) and I'd like to take the rod along so I don't have to just sit on the beach and drink all day... although that's not bad either.  I have no idea what I'd hook into, I just found a hell of a price on a 9-wt. and I figured it would handle a nice range of saltwater activity.

Do you think any of these sale Orvis lines are suitable?  I'll basically be chucking baitfish patterns all the time.  This coastal stuff is totally new to me, so please let me know if I should size up and consider a 10-wt. line.  Thanks in advance for any input.  And if none of these lines are suitable, just let me know.  Just trying to save a buck, if possible.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HG
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94HL
http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=9L9T

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Friday, 25 May 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Bethany Beach

Cape henlopen and indian river inlet

On May 23, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Zach on the Hill <zachary.r.hartman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
> I am going to be in Bethany Beach this weekend and was wondering if
> anyone had any advice or intel on any opportunities while I am there?
>
> Thanks and all the best -
>
> Zach
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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Upper Delaware River -

I am.  And I hope you didn’t eat any of those fish, especially in the Gowanus Canal and Newtown Creek.  What a mess.

 

I learned to trout fish in NY & PA, mostly in the Catskills and Poconos, and I consider the Delaware my home river.  I’ve spent more than my fair share of days on the river.

 

Shoot me an e-mail or call the shop and we’ll talk about where to fish.  I have a few good spots I can send you, some local, some not so local.

 

 

R

 

 

Richard Farino

Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street  2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314

(703) 527-2524 | fax: (703) 527-3313 | richard@urbanangler.com

 

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Upper Delaware River -

 

I am staying at Cedar Rapids and have been to the bar many times!!! I have had pretty good luck with trout walking small section of the creek that seperates the campsite from where the office and bar are from rt 97 to the creek mouth, using small rapalas and inline spinners.

 

BTW, Rich, are you from the Bronx? I saw a picture you put up a while back of the bronx river. I grew up in Parkchester. I've caught striper and blues in the bronx river before and when i moved to Brooklyn I caught them in the Gowanus (which i think is a superfund site and newton creek). Very surprised that anything could last more than a day in those waters. Most of my fishing there was done from the shore at Maritime College under the throggs neck bridge.


On Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:59:26 PM UTC-4, nicholas mendis wrote:

Hello all,

 

I am heading to Barryville, NY in Sullivan County  on 06/01.  Plan is to fly fish all day Friday from my camping spot and then spin fish from a kayak Saturday - Doing an 18 mile trip. I have fished there for many years but never fly fished. I have a 5wt and a 7 wt. This time of year there are trout - big browns and rainbow, usually shad still running a ton of smallies, and occassional tiger muskie.

 

Any tips for me before I head out there? I would love to hear from anyone with experience flyfishing the area.

 

Thanks!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Upper Delaware River -

I am staying at Cedar Rapids and have been to the bar many times!!! I have had pretty good luck with trout walking small section of the creek that seperates the campsite from where the office and bar are from rt 97 to the creek mouth, using small rapalas and inline spinners.
 
BTW, Rich, are you from the Bronx? I saw a picture you put up a while back of the bronx river. I grew up in Parkchester. I've caught striper and blues in the bronx river before and when i moved to Brooklyn I caught them in the Gowanus (which i think is a superfund site and newton creek). Very surprised that anything could last more than a day in those waters. Most of my fishing there was done from the shore at Maritime College under the throggs neck bridge.

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:59:26 PM UTC-4, nicholas mendis wrote:
Hello all,
 
I am heading to Barryville, NY in Sullivan County  on 06/01.  Plan is to fly fish all day Friday from my camping spot and then spin fish from a kayak Saturday - Doing an 18 mile trip. I have fished there for many years but never fly fished. I have a 5wt and a 7 wt. This time of year there are trout - big browns and rainbow, usually shad still running a ton of smallies, and occassional tiger muskie.
 
Any tips for me before I head out there? I would love to hear from anyone with experience flyfishing the area.
 
Thanks!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Waldorf to Rapidan river Sat or Mon

I will drive split gas. Leave from Waldorf 6-630am. Be there around 9. Fish till 1-2. Going up Quaker rd below gate to Hoover camp. Expect to be crowded. Email me. Need va license and national park stamp.

Frank Curry
C 703 928 4731

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Confluence - Rappahannock & Rapida

I'm contemplating a Fathers Day trip to the confluence of the Rappahannock and Rapidan for smallmouth.  Companion in this possible outing is a total fly rodding newbie. I've got a copy of Switchfishers book to review in the meantime.  Also under consideration is Harpers Ferry and Potomac below Damn #5  

Any and all contributions of advice/caution/warning ;-) are appreciated.

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Upper Delaware River -

Nick,

 

Where are you camping?  Will give you what info I can, but if you want trout, you’ll need to be a bit further upriver.

 

 

R

 

 

Richard Farino

Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street  2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314

(703) 527-2524 | fax: (703) 527-3313 | richard@urbanangler.com

 

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Upper Delaware River -

 

Hello all,

 

I am heading to Barryville, NY in Sullivan County  on 06/01.  Plan is to fly fish all day Friday from my camping spot and then spin fish from a kayak Saturday - Doing an 18 mile trip. I have fished there for many years but never fly fished. I have a 5wt and a 7 wt. This time of year there are trout - big browns and rainbow, usually shad still running a ton of smallies, and occassional tiger muskie.

 

Any tips for me before I head out there? I would love to hear from anyone with experience flyfishing the area.

 

Thanks!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Upper Delaware River -

I've fished the D from around Milford all the way down to Hancock in my lifetime. I'd say a few things.
 
1. Big dries on the banks. Hoppers and Ants. But be ready to nymph if you really want to catch anything up there.  
2. Skip it altogether and fish the lackawaxen. The good part is probably a 20 minute drive from the Barryville bridge and its a much better and more wadeable river.
3. Drink at Cedar Rapids Inn. Hopefully it will be toga night.
 
B

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Vince <vince@hockingcounty.com> wrote:
Just got back from a trip to the West Branch near Hancock, NY.  Had a great time and landed some really nice fish. My #1 recommendation is to make sure you focus on getting a "drag free drift."  Those fish really pay attention and if you aren't mending and paying attention to the drift the fishing is tough.  Number #2 recommendation is to fish the last hour of daylight in a pool or other likely spot.  We had hard fishing during the day, but all of the fish came out in the evening for the spinner fall.  Was amazing how many people didn't even come out for that time of evening when it was the most productive!

Good luck and have fun!

Vince

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Thursday, 24 May 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing Saturday and/or Monday

I have Saturday and Monday off and want to go fishing either or both. Since the Potomac is looking a bit high, I was thinking I might go back to the Pohick/Accotink area and look for snakheads and (large) bass in my canoe. I could use a bow paddler for that, but the canoe and I can go anywhere if you have a better idea. I'd also be up for the drive to saltwater on Monday, if that's feasible. 

Send me an email at md (at) oppidi (dot) net.

Miles

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Upper Delaware River -

Just got back from a trip to the West Branch near Hancock, NY. Had a great time and landed some really nice fish. My #1 recommendation is to make sure you focus on getting a "drag free drift." Those fish really pay attention and if you aren't mending and paying attention to the drift the fishing is tough. Number #2 recommendation is to fish the last hour of daylight in a pool or other likely spot. We had hard fishing during the day, but all of the fish came out in the evening for the spinner fall. Was amazing how many people didn't even come out for that time of evening when it was the most productive!

Good luck and have fun!

Vince

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Hello all,
 
I am heading to Barryville, NY in Sullivan County  on 06/01.  Plan is to fly fish all day Friday from my camping spot and then spin fish from a kayak Saturday - Doing an 18 mile trip. I have fished there for many years but never fly fished. I have a 5wt and a 7 wt. This time of year there are trout - big browns and rainbow, usually shad still running a ton of smallies, and occassional tiger muskie.
 
Any tips for me before I head out there? I would love to hear from anyone with experience flyfishing the area.
 
Thanks!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Digest for tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com - 17 Messages in 5 Topics

Re Bethany Beach. There's a jetty you can fish from just east of the Indian River bridge but the rocks are slippery, so crampons or studded shoes might make sense. Fast-sinking line are order of the day. 4"-6" clousers (the SKU is chartreuse and white) generally work well.You also might try the pipes near the Indian River marina. Take road toward marina and turn right to go around the huge boat storage building to causeway connection to small island just west of building.  On inconing tide water rushes through causeway pipes and stripers and other fish gather round to see what goodies are coming along..  Fish from either causeway or the slippery rocks along its edge.  Chartreuse and white 4" clousers (what a surprise!) work well there.  You can also fish outgoing tide on other side of causeway but occasionally someone comes along to shout that fishing is prohibited in the marina. Go figure.

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    "Eric Y." <theericyoung@gmail.com> May 23 12:55PM -0700  

    Mine also has an automatic reel... a red aluminum Pflueger. He also had an
    old Morritt Intrepid Rimfly for it, which my mother currently uses on her
    3-wt.
     
     
    On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:57 PM UTC-4, Dave Marcus wrote:

     

    Carl Zmola <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> May 23 08:28PM -0400  

    Eric,
     
    I love that video. I had watched a few times before you posted it but I
    always figured the rod was a Conolon. Since your post I did a little
    research, Garcia didn't buy Conolon until 1960 so the rod could be a
    True Temper. I also love the JW Young Beaudex reel (probably a Garcia
    branded Beaudex). They are a poor man's Hardy.
     
    I have quite a few vintage fiberglass rods and like to cast them. I
    really like the Rimfly reels too, I have a couple of them and they often
    find their way out to the pond. The nice thing about the Rimfly's is
    the light, sturdy construction with an exposed palming rim. I have a
    few automatic's too, but they seem to collect dust :-)
     
     
    BTW, I love the tip bounce on the rod in that video. You can watch what
    the tip bounce does to the line after the cast. Even a champion caster
    got serious tip bounce with these rods.
     
    Carl
     
     
    On 05/23/2012 03:55 PM, Eric Y. wrote:

     

    "Eric Y." <theericyoung@gmail.com> May 23 05:33PM -0700  

    I have an English made Cortland Rimfly that I keep double taper on for my
    5wt, but it is not nearly as smooth as the Morritt Intrepid, despite being
    nearly identical. Also, that rod really looks just like the True Temper,
    markings at all... could be anything, but if I was a betting man...
     
    On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:28:07 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

     

    Mike Honcho <ariccobono@yahoo.com> May 23 11:44AM -0700  

    Hey everybody,
     
    I hear that the river got really muddy last weekend. Anyone been out
    this week? Has it cleared up?
     
    Thanks!

     

    scott <wswilber@verizon.net> May 23 06:24AM -0700  

    Any new reviews/comment on the Angler? I am 64, 6'4", 250, have two
    titanium knees and would appreciate any counsel. Also, best local
    sources? West, REI, other? Thanks!

     

    Steve F <spfbeaver@gmail.com> May 23 07:44AM -0700  

    Scott,

    A number of us have this model. I think it's pretty fantastic but I'm only
    5'9", 170lbs so another owner might be able to speak in regards to size.
    While my knees aren't titanium, I do have a bum knee and the flexibility of
    the SOT type kayaks makes it much easier to move around to keep from
    getting stiff. It's also great to kneel and cast from that I wouldn't
    dream of doing from a hard kayak. It is extremely stable compared to most
    hard kayaks so I would think the only limiting factor for a taller
    gentleman such as yourself would be the leg room. The seat is fixed on
    velcro to the floor of the kayak so it can be moved forward and back
    around 6-8" or so. The event at Riverbend Park may be the ideal place to
    have a seat in one and try it on for size.

    As far as local sources, I contacted REI last week for a few spare parts
    but they do not carry this particular model and suggested going straight to
    AE. I haven't tried West Marine. Best of luck.

    ~ Steve

     

    Howard A <howard_abramowitz@yahoo.com> May 23 08:16AM -0700  

    I purchased one about a month ago (thanks tax refund). I think after
    Jeremy's post from his striper trip several of us went and got them, so
    there will be a small armada of bright yellow inflatables out there.
     
    I have only used it a few times, but so far I have enjoyed it. I think it
    is as easy to get in and out of, tracks well and is easy to paddle. I got
    a 230 cm paddle but think a 240 might be better given the wide beam. I am
    6'2" and about 185 lbs, and it supports me and gear for and afternoon of
    fishing without an issue. It may be a little short for someone 6'4", I have
    adjusted the seat on mine towards the rear of its range. Inflating and
    deflating are reasonably quick, I got the AE foot pump with the gauge which
    is convenient for proper inflation.
     
    I purchased it at west marine in alexandria, they price matched the listing
    on amazon, but had some hesitation in doing so as I don't think it is their
    policy to match amazon. It wasn't in stock so they ordered it, which took
    a couple of days, but I didn't have to pay shipping, and west marine has a
    rewards point program.
     
     
    On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:24:49 AM UTC-4, scott wrote:

     

    "scott wilber" <wswilber@verizon.net> May 23 01:50PM -0400  

    Steve,
     

     
    Thank you so much. I do hope to attend the Riverbend event for this and
    other good reasons.
     

     
    Best,
     

     
    Scott
     

     
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    From: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com
    [mailto:tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve F
    Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:45 AM
    To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com
    Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: AE StraighEdge Angler information
    and sources
     

     
    Scott,
     

     
    A number of us have this model. I think it's pretty fantastic but I'm only
    5'9", 170lbs so another owner might be able to speak in regards to size.
    While my knees aren't titanium, I do have a bum knee and the flexibility of
    the SOT type kayaks makes it much easier to move around to keep from getting
    stiff. It's also great to kneel and cast from that I wouldn't dream of
    doing from a hard kayak. It is extremely stable compared to most hard
    kayaks so I would think the only limiting factor for a taller gentleman such
    as yourself would be the leg room. The seat is fixed on velcro to the floor
    of the kayak so it can be moved forward and back around 6-8" or so. The
    event at Riverbend Park may be the ideal place to have a seat in one and try
    it on for size.
     

     
    As far as local sources, I contacted REI last week for a few spare parts but
    they do not carry this particular model and suggested going straight to AE.
    I haven't tried West Marine. Best of luck.
     

     
    ~ Steve
     
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    "scott wilber" <wswilber@verizon.net> May 23 01:51PM -0400  

    Howard,
     

     
    Thank you for the information, I greatly appreciate it.
     

     
    Best,
     

     
    Scott
     

     
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    Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:17 AM
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    Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: AE StraighEdge Angler information
    and sources
     

     
    I purchased one about a month ago (thanks tax refund). I think after
    Jeremy's post from his striper trip several of us went and got them, so
    there will be a small armada of bright yellow inflatables out there.
     
    I have only used it a few times, but so far I have enjoyed it. I think it is
    as easy to get in and out of, tracks well and is easy to paddle. I got a
    230 cm paddle but think a 240 might be better given the wide beam. I am
    6'2" and about 185 lbs, and it supports me and gear for and afternoon of
    fishing without an issue. It may be a little short for someone 6'4", I have
    adjusted the seat on mine towards the rear of its range. Inflating and
    deflating are reasonably quick, I got the AE foot pump with the gauge which
    is convenient for proper inflation.
     
    I purchased it at west marine in alexandria, they price matched the listing
    on amazon, but had some hesitation in doing so as I don't think it is their
    policy to match amazon. It wasn't in stock so they ordered it, which took a
    couple of days, but I didn't have to pay shipping, and west marine has a
    rewards point program.
     
     
    On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:24:49 AM UTC-4, scott wrote:
     
    Any new reviews/comment on the Angler? I am 64, 6'4", 250, have two
    titanium knees and would appreciate any counsel. Also, best local sources?
    West, REI, other? Thanks!
     
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    Ernie <ernierojas@verizon.net> May 23 12:27PM -0700  

    Scott,
     
    As well, I have two of those knees. I have 2 Ocean Kayak Prowlers and
    they are super stable. I do not stand or kneel in them.
     
    I will bring them to the PRSC event at Riverbend so you can check
    them out.
     
    Ernie
     

     

    Aaron O <aaron@jorgeinc.com> May 23 05:36AM -0700  

    Mike,

    Welcome to the group and congrats. Always happy to see new names on
    the forum. Will see you around the forum and hopefully different events
    throughout the year.

    Aaron




    On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:46:00 AM UTC-4, Mike Scully wrote:
     

     

    namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> May 23 10:09AM -0700  

    LOL. Been there done that. Did that my first time astream for trout.
    Tossed a 5 incher maybe 40 feet on a hook set that looked more like a
    backcast. Setting the hook with fly gear is worth learning - and usually
    the hard way. ;-)
     
    On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:46:00 AM UTC-4, Mike Scully wrote:

     

    Jeff Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> May 23 10:20AM -0700  

    Congrats! My tip for setting the hook when you're expecting to get into
    some smaller fish is to do the set with a pull of the line rather than a
    jerk of the rod. A quick yank as if you're stripping in line is more than
    enough for the small fish without sending them across the river. That
    usually works fine even for the decent sized fish too, but you'll be able
    to tell quickly if there's anything of significance on the other end and
    you can supplement it with a lift of the rod.
     
    On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, namfos wrote:

     

    Zach on the Hill <zachary.r.hartman@gmail.com> May 23 05:54AM -0700  

    Hey gang,
     
    I am going to be in Bethany Beach this weekend and was wondering if
    anyone had any advice or intel on any opportunities while I am there?
     
    Thanks and all the best -
     
    Zach

     

    Alek <alekchance@gmail.com> May 23 09:30AM -0700  

    there is a tidal outflow called the indian river inlet (i think) that has
    easy access and a huge amount of water coming through. it is very deep and
    fast so i would bring a fast sinking line. there are lots of flounder on
    the bottom but you can get stripers and other fish too. it is at a public
    beach so it will certainly be crowded.
     
    On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:54:17 AM UTC-4, Zach on the Hill wrote:

     

    Joe Molloy <josephmolloy@gmail.com> May 23 01:18PM -0400  

    I fished near Fenwick Island this time last year. I just walked the beach
    at sunrise and fished every spot I saw a rip current (like every 75 feet).
    Used my fastest sink tip and a clouser minnow. The water was not deep but i
    wanted to get the fly down quick before the incoming waves blew my line all
    over the place.
     
    I only managed one striped bass but had numerous hits once I started to
    figure out how to cast/strip in the surf a little better.
     
    Also, the water was mighty chilly. I only waded out up to my calves while
    barefoot but would have loved some boot foot waders.
     
    joe
     

     

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: AE StraighEdge Angler information and sources

I am one of those who have recently purchased the AE Angler and I'm very pleased with all aspects of the inflatable.  I'm 5'10 and 215 and using a 230cm paddle is about right although I have a much more vertical stroke then some.  The primary advantage for me is storage and stability.  It certainly tracks well and is more then quick enough.  I outfitted mine with a zipppered waterproof rear duffle for storage and a camelback hydration system, along with anchor.  I have cockpit and sit-on tops, including an Ocean Kayak Trident 13 Angler in Florida (which I like a great deal), but it's not as stable, although faster then the AE Angler.  The compact size of the AE is also nice if you're going to be fishing in tight situations.  It's offers a comfortable kayaking and fishing experience.  I purchased mine through AirKayaks online and they were very good with price, service and delivery.

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Any new reviews/comment on the Angler?  I am 64, 6'4", 250, have two titanium knees and would appreciate any counsel.  Also, best local sources?  West, REI, other?  Thanks!

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Wednesday, 23 May 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 1950s fly fishing video

I have an English made Cortland Rimfly that I keep double taper on for my 5wt, but it is not nearly as smooth as the Morritt Intrepid, despite being nearly identical. Also, that rod really looks just like the True Temper, markings at all... could be anything, but if I was a betting man...

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:28:07 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:
Eric,

I love that video.  I had watched a few times before you posted it but I always figured the rod was a Conolon.  Since your post I did a little research, Garcia didn't buy Conolon until 1960 so the rod could be a True Temper.  I also love the JW Young Beaudex reel (probably a Garcia branded Beaudex).  They are a poor man's Hardy. 

I have quite a few vintage fiberglass rods and like to cast them.  I really like the Rimfly reels too, I have a couple of them and they often find their way out to the pond.  The nice thing about the Rimfly's is the light, sturdy construction with an exposed palming rim.  I have a few automatic's too, but they seem to collect dust :-)


BTW, I love the tip bounce on the rod in that video.  You can watch what the tip bounce does to the line after the cast.  Even a champion caster got serious tip bounce with these rods. 

Carl 


On 05/23/2012 03:55 PM, Eric Y. wrote:
Mine also has an automatic reel... a red aluminum Pflueger. He also had an old Morritt Intrepid Rimfly for it, which my mother currently uses on her 3-wt.


On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:57 PM UTC-4, Dave Marcus wrote:
As is often the case when I'm bored at home (or work) I may quickly search youtube for some videos of fly fishing. I stumbled across this great old video from 1956. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OKaWOtZ4IA


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