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Friday, 31 August 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

I went out yesterday after work, managed to catch quite a few browns on elk hair caddis and a foam hopper. water level is down about two feet from saturday, 155cfs

On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 11:10:39 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:

sorry I couldn't make it out, work took over and it was the last summer WNR here in annapolis and I had a boat begging me to come out. I'm thinking about heading out this afternoon or saturday.

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 10:00:18 AM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
Hi Rob,

It looks like Backwater is closed Wednesdays. I think we will stop into Great Feathers to get a license etc. Yes, I heard of the Masemore section as well as Bunker hill spot as well. We are leaving DC around noon so should be in the area around 1pm today. This will be my 3rd outing with the Tenkara rod. As I am new to the sport altogether and after researching for my needs for travel I chose Tenkara and it so happens at the time I was finalizing my research and decision, a bicycle bag brand Swift Industries was doing a pack/rod collaboration with Tenkara Rod Co. With the purchase, it included the pack that can be worn around the waste or strapped onto a bicycle handlebar. The rod is the Sawtooth which I understand is a 5:5 rod but I see most people use a 6:4. This is my first rod so I don't know any difference. Also included is 5x tippet, a 10.5" furled line and 3 starter flies. I have not bought any supplemental equipment but I think some more flies, tippet and lines should be on order.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 10:21:47 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
yeah we went to the masemore water trail (where there is a parking lot), and went up river from there. You may want to stop into backwater, Theo was great, and the shop has all the flies you'll need. I'd offer to meet you there, but I think I have something planned but I may blow it off, will let you know if that changes.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Masemore+Water+Trail/@39.6113473,-76.6850242,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c86dd20a102059:0xe148ea6acc8c31e9!8m2!3d39.6113473!4d-76.6828302

I've fished tenkara all over the world and I think you'll find its simplicity enjoyable, although they are not as versatile as a western fly rod and the casting technique is entirely different. a western fly rod can do everything a tenkara rod can, a tenkara rod just does the things it can do better, pack really small and have an ultra delicate presentation for example.

You'll be dead drifting weighted nymphs mostly, treat your tenkara rod like a euro nymphing rig and you should have fun, plenty of videos on youtube about that technique. You may want to also try trowing dry flies in riffles, but talking with a buddy who guides up there (and who I completely forgot to call before going up there) most of the bugs have been washed out with the high current so you may also want to try streamer fishing, although that is better done with a traditional rod.

What rod did you go with? I'm a big fan of the Tenkara USA Sato as an all arounder but I left mine with a guide in Argentina a few years back and picked up a dragontail hellbender and a komodo. I've landed some 18in+ fish with the hellbender, and the komodo seems to be a good all arounder, although a bit over powering for 4-6in fish. I've also got a little 6ft diawa micro fishing rod that is about the size of a wizards wand when packed, great for tossing in my nathan's running pack. I used to run 7miles to lake needwood and fish the outflow there while I cooled down, and then run back after fishing for a bit.

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:59:03 AM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
Going to go this Wednesday afternoon instead. I rode the bike out to pond of giants area on the C&O yesterday. I am new to fly fishing in general and have opted to start with Tenkara and yesterday was my 2nd time using it. Caught a handful of bluegill. Could you tell me what access area you used at Big Gunpowder? I chose Tenkara for my travels which are mainly by motorcycle as well as bicycle and for car trips like this Wednesday because I am taking a friend as well its a none issue as it fits in a 4runner just fine. I'll monitor the water levels hopefully it is not as much in a few days. I also hear that Big Gunpowder can get crowded especially on the weekends and have found suggestions that Little Falls and Little Gunpowder are a good alternative.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
sorry didn't see this, we went saturday, something like 1000-1730.

stopped by backwater and got the scoop, good shop. We had fun but caught very little, seemed like nobody was really catching anything except I ran across a guy as I was leaving and saw him have two takes on a caddis in less than five minutes. I think we had one 12in brown and three or four small brookies landed.

The water was at something like 250cfs, so it was fast for the GP. The 12inch brown was caught on a 3wt single hand spey rig tossing a size 4 weighted sculpin pattern with a medium sink t head, We were using it to get across the stream and fish the other bank, then swing downstream and fish below on the bank I was on. The brookies we caught two on a red copper john using a tenkara rod set up for sighter nymphing. My wife hooked a few on a gummy worm on the tenkara rig then we swapped to a grey mop fly when she lost the worm and had similar luck.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:14:12 PM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
what time are you going? I was thinking of going this weekend as well. I'm from DC

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 1:14:53 PM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
Hi Guys,

Looking at hitting gunpowder tomorrow, but where do I go? Never been up there and am not familiar with the area, any suggestions?

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Thursday, 30 August 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Smallmouth on the Rapidan? (and other locations)

Phew I almost stopped at the confluence on my way back from Richmond on Sunday... I looked at the water as we were going south on 95 on Saturday and pretty much made up my mind then. Plus it was so dang hot it would have been a really sweaty hike. Sounds like I made the right call.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

sorry I couldn't make it out, work took over and it was the last summer WNR here in annapolis and I had a boat begging me to come out. I'm thinking about heading out this afternoon or saturday.

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 10:00:18 AM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:

Hi Rob,

It looks like Backwater is closed Wednesdays. I think we will stop into Great Feathers to get a license etc. Yes, I heard of the Masemore section as well as Bunker hill spot as well. We are leaving DC around noon so should be in the area around 1pm today. This will be my 3rd outing with the Tenkara rod. As I am new to the sport altogether and after researching for my needs for travel I chose Tenkara and it so happens at the time I was finalizing my research and decision, a bicycle bag brand Swift Industries was doing a pack/rod collaboration with Tenkara Rod Co. With the purchase, it included the pack that can be worn around the waste or strapped onto a bicycle handlebar. The rod is the Sawtooth which I understand is a 5:5 rod but I see most people use a 6:4. This is my first rod so I don't know any difference. Also included is 5x tippet, a 10.5" furled line and 3 starter flies. I have not bought any supplemental equipment but I think some more flies, tippet and lines should be on order.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 10:21:47 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
yeah we went to the masemore water trail (where there is a parking lot), and went up river from there. You may want to stop into backwater, Theo was great, and the shop has all the flies you'll need. I'd offer to meet you there, but I think I have something planned but I may blow it off, will let you know if that changes.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Masemore+Water+Trail/@39.6113473,-76.6850242,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c86dd20a102059:0xe148ea6acc8c31e9!8m2!3d39.6113473!4d-76.6828302

I've fished tenkara all over the world and I think you'll find its simplicity enjoyable, although they are not as versatile as a western fly rod and the casting technique is entirely different. a western fly rod can do everything a tenkara rod can, a tenkara rod just does the things it can do better, pack really small and have an ultra delicate presentation for example.

You'll be dead drifting weighted nymphs mostly, treat your tenkara rod like a euro nymphing rig and you should have fun, plenty of videos on youtube about that technique. You may want to also try trowing dry flies in riffles, but talking with a buddy who guides up there (and who I completely forgot to call before going up there) most of the bugs have been washed out with the high current so you may also want to try streamer fishing, although that is better done with a traditional rod.

What rod did you go with? I'm a big fan of the Tenkara USA Sato as an all arounder but I left mine with a guide in Argentina a few years back and picked up a dragontail hellbender and a komodo. I've landed some 18in+ fish with the hellbender, and the komodo seems to be a good all arounder, although a bit over powering for 4-6in fish. I've also got a little 6ft diawa micro fishing rod that is about the size of a wizards wand when packed, great for tossing in my nathan's running pack. I used to run 7miles to lake needwood and fish the outflow there while I cooled down, and then run back after fishing for a bit.

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:59:03 AM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
Going to go this Wednesday afternoon instead. I rode the bike out to pond of giants area on the C&O yesterday. I am new to fly fishing in general and have opted to start with Tenkara and yesterday was my 2nd time using it. Caught a handful of bluegill. Could you tell me what access area you used at Big Gunpowder? I chose Tenkara for my travels which are mainly by motorcycle as well as bicycle and for car trips like this Wednesday because I am taking a friend as well its a none issue as it fits in a 4runner just fine. I'll monitor the water levels hopefully it is not as much in a few days. I also hear that Big Gunpowder can get crowded especially on the weekends and have found suggestions that Little Falls and Little Gunpowder are a good alternative.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
sorry didn't see this, we went saturday, something like 1000-1730.

stopped by backwater and got the scoop, good shop. We had fun but caught very little, seemed like nobody was really catching anything except I ran across a guy as I was leaving and saw him have two takes on a caddis in less than five minutes. I think we had one 12in brown and three or four small brookies landed.

The water was at something like 250cfs, so it was fast for the GP. The 12inch brown was caught on a 3wt single hand spey rig tossing a size 4 weighted sculpin pattern with a medium sink t head, We were using it to get across the stream and fish the other bank, then swing downstream and fish below on the bank I was on. The brookies we caught two on a red copper john using a tenkara rod set up for sighter nymphing. My wife hooked a few on a gummy worm on the tenkara rig then we swapped to a grey mop fly when she lost the worm and had similar luck.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:14:12 PM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
what time are you going? I was thinking of going this weekend as well. I'm from DC

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 1:14:53 PM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
Hi Guys,

Looking at hitting gunpowder tomorrow, but where do I go? Never been up there and am not familiar with the area, any suggestions?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

these guys were ~4inch fish, I didn't catch them my wife and my dad did. I lost two fish that were definitely small browns. My dad is used to west coast fish (he lives within a stones throw of the sandy and heads to the descutes/white almost every week, to him anything smaller than 12 inches automatically becomes a brookie, otherwise its not worth saying he caught it.

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 10:18:05 AM UTC-4, Andrew Sarcinello wrote:

I was wondering the same thing. When MDNR biologists do electroshocking surveys, they usually only find one or two...betting they were actually small browns. However with all the floods lately I guess it's possible that a bunch washed out of a tributary somewhere, though the ones I know that have brookies are so small it is hard to imagine flooding so bad that they couldn't stay put...

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:48:41 AM UTC-4, Sean Beck wrote:
You managed 3-4 brookies?! I know guys that go there anywhere from two to four times a week and never catch a brookie the entire year. That's quite impressive.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Smallmouth on the Rapidan? (and other locations)

This thread actually convinced me to go try wading on the Rapidan this past sunday.

Bad choice. water was high - still at least 850 CFS at Culpeper - and visibility was still somewhat limited. Ended up messing around right at the Ely's access for about 90 mins, then called it a day. . I wouldn't try that river unless flows were below 400 CFS.

Worried that if the weather gets crappy again this coming week, we're just about done with any chance at a legit summer topwater bite.

On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 8:06:57 PM UTC-4, HeaveToo wrote:

years ago I use to do a ton of fishing in the Town of Rapidan with access by the Route 615 bridge. The fishing was amazing during the month of May and I caught a lot of bruisers there. I haven't fished that area in 15 years though. I use to fish right by the dam at Rapidan. The area was extremely wadeable.

On Monday, August 13, 2018 at 10:04:08 AM UTC-4, Andrew Chaney wrote:
I've seen a fair amount of discussion about smallmouth on the Rapidan on this forum, most specifically from downstream of Ely's Ford to the confluence with the Rappahannock. Since the water level has been so high lately, I fished upstream around the area that Rt 3 crosses the Rapidan near the Germanna Community College Locust Grove Campus. The water level was still pretty high albeit still fishable. I fished for a few hours and got blanked.

My question for the group is: How far upstream is there decent smallmouth fishing on the Rapidan?

Also, other than the usual suspects (i.e. Rapidan, Rappahannock, Potomac & Shenandoah rivers), are there other options to go after smallmouth in Northern VA? For the purpose of the question, I'm thinking of Northern VA of as far south as Fredericksburg and as far west as the East Slope of the SNP.

With all the rain we've been getting, it's been a frustrating season for finding fishable smallmouth streams/rivers without a boat.

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Wednesday, 29 August 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: International Fly Fishing Film Festival presented by NCC-TU (Sept 25)

Hey there fellow TPFRers,

Don't forget to purchase your tickets to IF4™: International Fly Fishing Film Festival at the Avalon Theater in Washington DC on September 25 @ 8:00 PM. Tickets are $20 and include an automatic entry to win a brand new Echo DRY 5wt rod, a Patagonia sling pack as well as other fly fishing apparel and gear. Tickets can be purchased online here.

All profits will go towards the chapter's conservation work and our new Project Healing Waters chapter at the DC V.A. hospital, so be sure to come out and support a great cause.

We will have also rods, reels and new NCC-TU swag from top fly fishing brands available for sale. More news to come on beer and food sales.

Check out the preview for Seriously North, one of the entries in this year's film festival: https://vimeo.com/248992028

Tight Lines,

Andrew R

On Monday, August 20, 2018 at 11:44:51 AM UTC-4, Andrew R wrote:

Hey Everyone,

NCC-TU is proud to announce the 2018 DC area showing of the International Fly Fishing Film Festival at the Avalon Theater in Washington DC on Tuesday September 25 @ 8:00 pm. Tickets are $20 and include an automatic entry to win tons of great prizes including a new Echo Dry 5wt rod, Patagonia sling pack, RepYourWater DC Striper hats, Engel Tumblers and assorted other fly-fishing equipment and apparel! Tickets can be purchased online here: https://www.showclix.com/event/IF42018WASHINGTONDC

All profits will go towards the chapter's conservation and community service initiatives so be sure to come out and support a great cause. We will also have rods, reels and NCC-TU apparel and swag available for sale.

To see the preview for this year's IF4: https://vimeo.com/248509928

Tight Lines,

Andrew R

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 3rd Annual Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders Bluegill Tourment September 7-8 2018

I have had a few people ask about this the last couple days, so I am giving it a bump.

-Trent

On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 3:50:59 PM UTC-4, Trent Jones wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen,TPFR's and Panfish enthusiast's!

TPFR will be holding its 3^rd annual Bluegill Tournament on September 7-8th. The goal as usual is to.....have fun! This will be a 24 hour tournament and we will have two age divisions 16+ and under 16. Admission is $10.00 for the senior division and those in the Junior division (under 16) admission is free. Medals will be awarded in each division for the following categories:

1.       Biggest fish
2.       Smallest fish
3.       Most fish
4.       Best looking fish

The tournament will run from 4PM Friday, September 7th thru Saturday, September 8th at 4PM. General rules are as follows:

1.       All federal, State, and local laws must be obeyed.
2.       Only the use of Fly rod and reel
3.       Fish must be caught in DC, MD, or VA
4.       All submissions must be emailed to tournament organizers no later than 4pm Sunday, September 9th

5.       You absolutely must have fun.

6. All Submissions MUST include the official TPFR Ruler which will be emailed to registrants.

Bluegill is being used as a general name for fish in the Sunfish family: Bluegill, Red Breasted Sunfish, Warmouth, Etc. No Crappie or Largemouth. Tournament Admission fee is $10.00 Senior and free for Juniors. Junior division registrants please email bluegill@tpfr.org with your name and age to receive submission guidelines and ruler.

We will be holding a closing ceremony at Whitlows on Wilson in Arlington on Monday, September 10th during Beer Tie. Medals and other prizes will be awarded at 8:00pm sharp.

Registrants will be emailed submission guidelines and official ruler prior to the tournament start time. Let the games begin!

Registration is now open.

-Trent

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

I was wondering the same thing. When MDNR biologists do electroshocking surveys, they usually only find one or two...betting they were actually small browns. However with all the floods lately I guess it's possible that a bunch washed out of a tributary somewhere, though the ones I know that have brookies are so small it is hard to imagine flooding so bad that they couldn't stay put...

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:48:41 AM UTC-4, Sean Beck wrote:

You managed 3-4 brookies?! I know guys that go there anywhere from two to four times a week and never catch a brookie the entire year. That's quite impressive.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

Hi Rob,

It looks like Backwater is closed Wednesdays. I think we will stop into Great Feathers to get a license etc. Yes, I heard of the Masemore section as well as Bunker hill spot as well. We are leaving DC around noon so should be in the area around 1pm today. This will be my 3rd outing with the Tenkara rod. As I am new to the sport altogether and after researching for my needs for travel I chose Tenkara and it so happens at the time I was finalizing my research and decision, a bicycle bag brand Swift Industries was doing a pack/rod collaboration with Tenkara Rod Co. With the purchase, it included the pack that can be worn around the waste or strapped onto a bicycle handlebar. The rod is the Sawtooth which I understand is a 5:5 rod but I see most people use a 6:4. This is my first rod so I don't know any difference. Also included is 5x tippet, a 10.5" furled line and 3 starter flies. I have not bought any supplemental equipment but I think some more flies, tippet and lines should be on order.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 10:21:47 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:

yeah we went to the masemore water trail (where there is a parking lot), and went up river from there. You may want to stop into backwater, Theo was great, and the shop has all the flies you'll need. I'd offer to meet you there, but I think I have something planned but I may blow it off, will let you know if that changes.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Masemore+Water+Trail/@39.6113473,-76.6850242,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c86dd20a102059:0xe148ea6acc8c31e9!8m2!3d39.6113473!4d-76.6828302

I've fished tenkara all over the world and I think you'll find its simplicity enjoyable, although they are not as versatile as a western fly rod and the casting technique is entirely different. a western fly rod can do everything a tenkara rod can, a tenkara rod just does the things it can do better, pack really small and have an ultra delicate presentation for example.

You'll be dead drifting weighted nymphs mostly, treat your tenkara rod like a euro nymphing rig and you should have fun, plenty of videos on youtube about that technique. You may want to also try trowing dry flies in riffles, but talking with a buddy who guides up there (and who I completely forgot to call before going up there) most of the bugs have been washed out with the high current so you may also want to try streamer fishing, although that is better done with a traditional rod.

What rod did you go with? I'm a big fan of the Tenkara USA Sato as an all arounder but I left mine with a guide in Argentina a few years back and picked up a dragontail hellbender and a komodo. I've landed some 18in+ fish with the hellbender, and the komodo seems to be a good all arounder, although a bit over powering for 4-6in fish. I've also got a little 6ft diawa micro fishing rod that is about the size of a wizards wand when packed, great for tossing in my nathan's running pack. I used to run 7miles to lake needwood and fish the outflow there while I cooled down, and then run back after fishing for a bit.

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:59:03 AM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
Going to go this Wednesday afternoon instead. I rode the bike out to pond of giants area on the C&O yesterday. I am new to fly fishing in general and have opted to start with Tenkara and yesterday was my 2nd time using it. Caught a handful of bluegill. Could you tell me what access area you used at Big Gunpowder? I chose Tenkara for my travels which are mainly by motorcycle as well as bicycle and for car trips like this Wednesday because I am taking a friend as well its a none issue as it fits in a 4runner just fine. I'll monitor the water levels hopefully it is not as much in a few days. I also hear that Big Gunpowder can get crowded especially on the weekends and have found suggestions that Little Falls and Little Gunpowder are a good alternative.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
sorry didn't see this, we went saturday, something like 1000-1730.

stopped by backwater and got the scoop, good shop. We had fun but caught very little, seemed like nobody was really catching anything except I ran across a guy as I was leaving and saw him have two takes on a caddis in less than five minutes. I think we had one 12in brown and three or four small brookies landed.

The water was at something like 250cfs, so it was fast for the GP. The 12inch brown was caught on a 3wt single hand spey rig tossing a size 4 weighted sculpin pattern with a medium sink t head, We were using it to get across the stream and fish the other bank, then swing downstream and fish below on the bank I was on. The brookies we caught two on a red copper john using a tenkara rod set up for sighter nymphing. My wife hooked a few on a gummy worm on the tenkara rig then we swapped to a grey mop fly when she lost the worm and had similar luck.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:14:12 PM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
what time are you going? I was thinking of going this weekend as well. I'm from DC

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 1:14:53 PM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
Hi Guys,

Looking at hitting gunpowder tomorrow, but where do I go? Never been up there and am not familiar with the area, any suggestions?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

You managed 3-4 brookies?! I know guys that go there anywhere from two to four times a week and never catch a brookie the entire year. That's quite impressive.

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Tuesday, 28 August 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Smallmouth on the Rapidan? (and other locations)

years ago I use to do a ton of fishing in the Town of Rapidan with access by the Route 615 bridge. The fishing was amazing during the month of May and I caught a lot of bruisers there. I haven't fished that area in 15 years though. I use to fish right by the dam at Rapidan. The area was extremely wadeable.

On Monday, August 13, 2018 at 10:04:08 AM UTC-4, Andrew Chaney wrote:

I've seen a fair amount of discussion about smallmouth on the Rapidan on this forum, most specifically from downstream of Ely's Ford to the confluence with the Rappahannock. Since the water level has been so high lately, I fished upstream around the area that Rt 3 crosses the Rapidan near the Germanna Community College Locust Grove Campus. The water level was still pretty high albeit still fishable. I fished for a few hours and got blanked.

My question for the group is: How far upstream is there decent smallmouth fishing on the Rapidan?

Also, other than the usual suspects (i.e. Rapidan, Rappahannock, Potomac & Shenandoah rivers), are there other options to go after smallmouth in Northern VA? For the purpose of the question, I'm thinking of Northern VA of as far south as Fredericksburg and as far west as the East Slope of the SNP.

With all the rain we've been getting, it's been a frustrating season for finding fishable smallmouth streams/rivers without a boat.

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Monday, 27 August 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: DC PFD Laws - Info from Class

To piggy back on this, there are a lot of end-of-summer sales going on right now for anyone looking to purchase a PFD. REI, Backcountry, Outdoorplay, etc. are having 25%-off sales on most PFDs, including inflatable PFDs.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:07:47 AM UTC-4, Gregg DiSalvo wrote:

I always wear mine when kayaking in the early spring, late fall, and winter. Depending on water conditions, I'll wear it in the summer, but I'll admit that I don't wear it often due to the summer heat. The inflatables would likely combat this a bit. May look into it as I am usually found standing in my kayak, and one slip could result in a head injury.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-4, Jeff Cook wrote:
Regarding only PFDs (Personal Floatation Devices) in boating, this is both valuable general info and a bit of a rebuttal of popular belief. Let me unspool what I have learned firsthand...

I finally dug out the book and my class notes for the DC Boating Safety Course I took in May this year at the DC Harbor Patrol. I have an electric trolling motor on my 12ft kayak, so a course is mandatory in most states in recent years. This course was a DC-specific variation of the almost-national NASBLA curriculum. I took the DC version of the class because it is stricter than MD or VA (where I live). It's an excellent one-day class that I did on a weekend. There's no charge, but they do scan your driver's license and issue you a must-carry course confirmation card that's valid in other NASBLA states. Here's what I was told either in class or in the book I'm holding in my hand right now.

NASBLA says that 70% of boating fatalities are drownings, and 90% of those are people not wearing PFDs. Most fatalities had life jackets stowed onboard, were in daylight & good weather, light winds & calm water, in a vessel typically of open design such as a jon boat, canoe, or other boat with low sides, only 1/3 are alcohol related...and victims are typically men 26 to 50 years of age who have been boating for years and know how to swim.

Damn right, I wear it. But according to this book and the marine officer teaching the class and patrolling the water, it is not the law.

Everything north of Wilson Bridge and south of Little Falls is Federal water supervised by the DC Harbor Patrol and the National Park Service and the Coast Guard, under these rules.

In all cases, a properly fitting life jacket (not just a floatable seat cushion) is required to be in the boat and readily accessible for each person onboard.

In only some cases are life jackets/PFDs required to be WORN in DC waters:
- anywhere north of Fletcher's
- anyone under 13 years of age, while underway if above deck
- by everyone while being towed, including skiers
- by everyone if the operator is under 18, while underway
- by everyone using a Personal Water Craft (PWC), such as a jet ski (operator & passenger)

And related:
- must be min 16 yrs to use an inflatable life jacket
- an audible distress signal such as a whistle or horn, is now required on all boats under approx 65ft
- In DC waters, DC police and Coast Guard DO NOT need probable cause to stop a vessel

And after all that, the book and officers do say that "Vessel operators should ask everyone on their vessel to wear a life jacket whenever on the water". I agree completely, and may decide not to leave the dock otherwise. But it is not usually the law that they wear them, just that they are appropriate and readily available.

So that's my class info. The one-day class, by the way, is excellent and available to anyone: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/boating-safety-courses

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anybody fished the C&O canal recently?

The national parks service drained it a while back to do lock repairs. The NPS website says it was drained from Fletchers Cove down to Georgetown, but I reckon they went upstream a bit further 'cos I was at fletchers yesterday and the canal seemed drained a good way further north.

I don't know what lock they stopped the drainage at.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

yeah we went to the masemore water trail (where there is a parking lot), and went up river from there. You may want to stop into backwater, Theo was great, and the shop has all the flies you'll need. I'd offer to meet you there, but I think I have something planned but I may blow it off, will let you know if that changes.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Masemore+Water+Trail/@39.6113473,-76.6850242,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c86dd20a102059:0xe148ea6acc8c31e9!8m2!3d39.6113473!4d-76.6828302

I've fished tenkara all over the world and I think you'll find its simplicity enjoyable, although they are not as versatile as a western fly rod and the casting technique is entirely different. a western fly rod can do everything a tenkara rod can, a tenkara rod just does the things it can do better, pack really small and have an ultra delicate presentation for example.

You'll be dead drifting weighted nymphs mostly, treat your tenkara rod like a euro nymphing rig and you should have fun, plenty of videos on youtube about that technique. You may want to also try trowing dry flies in riffles, but talking with a buddy who guides up there (and who I completely forgot to call before going up there) most of the bugs have been washed out with the high current so you may also want to try streamer fishing, although that is better done with a traditional rod.

What rod did you go with? I'm a big fan of the Tenkara USA Sato as an all arounder but I left mine with a guide in Argentina a few years back and picked up a dragontail hellbender and a komodo. I've landed some 18in+ fish with the hellbender, and the komodo seems to be a good all arounder, although a bit over powering for 4-6in fish. I've also got a little 6ft diawa micro fishing rod that is about the size of a wizards wand when packed, great for tossing in my nathan's running pack. I used to run 7miles to lake needwood and fish the outflow there while I cooled down, and then run back after fishing for a bit.

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:59:03 AM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:

Going to go this Wednesday afternoon instead. I rode the bike out to pond of giants area on the C&O yesterday. I am new to fly fishing in general and have opted to start with Tenkara and yesterday was my 2nd time using it. Caught a handful of bluegill. Could you tell me what access area you used at Big Gunpowder? I chose Tenkara for my travels which are mainly by motorcycle as well as bicycle and for car trips like this Wednesday because I am taking a friend as well its a none issue as it fits in a 4runner just fine. I'll monitor the water levels hopefully it is not as much in a few days. I also hear that Big Gunpowder can get crowded especially on the weekends and have found suggestions that Little Falls and Little Gunpowder are a good alternative.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
sorry didn't see this, we went saturday, something like 1000-1730.

stopped by backwater and got the scoop, good shop. We had fun but caught very little, seemed like nobody was really catching anything except I ran across a guy as I was leaving and saw him have two takes on a caddis in less than five minutes. I think we had one 12in brown and three or four small brookies landed.

The water was at something like 250cfs, so it was fast for the GP. The 12inch brown was caught on a 3wt single hand spey rig tossing a size 4 weighted sculpin pattern with a medium sink t head, We were using it to get across the stream and fish the other bank, then swing downstream and fish below on the bank I was on. The brookies we caught two on a red copper john using a tenkara rod set up for sighter nymphing. My wife hooked a few on a gummy worm on the tenkara rig then we swapped to a grey mop fly when she lost the worm and had similar luck.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:14:12 PM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
what time are you going? I was thinking of going this weekend as well. I'm from DC

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 1:14:53 PM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
Hi Guys,

Looking at hitting gunpowder tomorrow, but where do I go? Never been up there and am not familiar with the area, any suggestions?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

Going to go this Wednesday afternoon instead. I rode the bike out to pond of giants area on the C&O yesterday. I am new to fly fishing in general and have opted to start with Tenkara and yesterday was my 2nd time using it. Caught a handful of bluegill. Could you tell me what access area you used at Big Gunpowder? I chose Tenkara for my travels which are mainly by motorcycle as well as bicycle and for car trips like this Wednesday because I am taking a friend as well its a none issue as it fits in a 4runner just fine. I'll monitor the water levels hopefully it is not as much in a few days. I also hear that Big Gunpowder can get crowded especially on the weekends and have found suggestions that Little Falls and Little Gunpowder are a good alternative.

Art

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:35:10 AM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:

sorry didn't see this, we went saturday, something like 1000-1730.

stopped by backwater and got the scoop, good shop. We had fun but caught very little, seemed like nobody was really catching anything except I ran across a guy as I was leaving and saw him have two takes on a caddis in less than five minutes. I think we had one 12in brown and three or four small brookies landed.

The water was at something like 250cfs, so it was fast for the GP. The 12inch brown was caught on a 3wt single hand spey rig tossing a size 4 weighted sculpin pattern with a medium sink t head, We were using it to get across the stream and fish the other bank, then swing downstream and fish below on the bank I was on. The brookies we caught two on a red copper john using a tenkara rod set up for sighter nymphing. My wife hooked a few on a gummy worm on the tenkara rig then we swapped to a grey mop fly when she lost the worm and had similar luck.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:14:12 PM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:
what time are you going? I was thinking of going this weekend as well. I'm from DC

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 1:14:53 PM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
Hi Guys,

Looking at hitting gunpowder tomorrow, but where do I go? Never been up there and am not familiar with the area, any suggestions?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

sorry didn't see this, we went saturday, something like 1000-1730.

stopped by backwater and got the scoop, good shop. We had fun but caught very little, seemed like nobody was really catching anything except I ran across a guy as I was leaving and saw him have two takes on a caddis in less than five minutes. I think we had one 12in brown and three or four small brookies landed.

The water was at something like 250cfs, so it was fast for the GP. The 12inch brown was caught on a 3wt single hand spey rig tossing a size 4 weighted sculpin pattern with a medium sink t head, We were using it to get across the stream and fish the other bank, then swing downstream and fish below on the bank I was on. The brookies we caught two on a red copper john using a tenkara rod set up for sighter nymphing. My wife hooked a few on a gummy worm on the tenkara rig then we swapped to a grey mop fly when she lost the worm and had similar luck.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:14:12 PM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:

what time are you going? I was thinking of going this weekend as well. I'm from DC

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 1:14:53 PM UTC-4, robert mills wrote:
Hi Guys,

Looking at hitting gunpowder tomorrow, but where do I go? Never been up there and am not familiar with the area, any suggestions?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} NC Backpacking

Dan how was your trip? I'm thinking of heading down the same area next few weeks.

Thanks
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Saturday, 25 August 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Pond of Giants

I am new to this group and fly fishing generally. Fished that pool last week - definitely some bigger guys in there, although they eluded me.

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 8:45:10 PM UTC-4, Worapong Soodsamai wrote:

Hi guys I know this is an old post but wonder if the maps is still relevant? From what I can gather, are the yellow pins the parking/access and blue pins the general fishing spot? I've taken up Tenkara and am new to fly fishing in general. Thanks a lot.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anybody fished the C&O canal recently?

Ran along the canal for about five miles from Fletcher's up. It looked horrible. Super muddy around chain bridge and then overgrown with weeds most the the way up. There were a spot of two maybe 50 yards long that had open water among the weeds and I didn't see a couple carp. This was a little over three miles above Fletcher's. I have no idea where lock 7 is.

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Friday, 24 August 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gunpowder access where to go?

what time are you going? I was thinking of going this weekend as well. I'm from DC

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anybody fished the C&O canal recently?

We checked out the canal north from Chain Bridge a little ways yesterday evening. It was fairly murky. Saw one guy with a spin rod who didn't seem to be having any luck.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anybody fished the C&O canal recently?

I was up there a few weeks ago, clarity was alright in spots, but parts of the canal are super weedy right now. Managed one carp. My favorite spots have been muddy since early spring.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:41:59 PM UTC-4, Brian Cohen wrote:

I got a quick glimpse of the area around Lock 7 as I drove by today, and it looked significantly more muddier than usual.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Ashley Frohwein <ashleyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm planning to go chase some carp tomorrow, around lock 7. I haven't been at all this year. Have any of you been recently, especially after all the rain? I'm just trying to gauge how high and clear the water is likely to be. Thanks!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anybody fished the C&O canal recently?

I got a quick glimpse of the area around Lock 7 as I drove by today, and it looked significantly more muddier than usual.

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I'm planning to go chase some carp tomorrow, around lock 7. I haven't been at all this year. Have any of you been recently, especially after all the rain? I'm just trying to gauge how high and clear the water is likely to be. Thanks!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Congratulations - New FFI Casting Instructor

Sorry I am late to the party but Congratulations!!!!!

Lee

On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 10:13:03 AM UTC-4, Mike Banaszewski wrote:

Please join me in congratulating Regan Burmeister for having successfully passed his FFI Certified Casting Instructor Exam this weekend. This is a tremendous accomplishment for Regan and a welcome addition to the local fly fishing community. Great job Regan!

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