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Thursday, 31 March 2016

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shad fishing

Hey fly rodders. I have been out a few times already for the shad run with no luck. I know I have to doing something wrong because I haven't even gotten a bite. If anyone have any tips on lures, techniques or anything else I can do to catch some shad on the fly would really be appreciated. Thanks peeps

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Virginia Fishing and Wine Festival April 9-10 in Doswell, VA

The Virginia Fly Fishing and Wine Festival is coming up next weekend, April 9-10, at a new location in Doswell, VA. Many of you know about the festival and have been to the old grounds in Waynesboro; this year Beau has moved it to Meadow Event Park in Doswell, VA to an indoor facility. If you aren't familiar with the festival, it's a fishing show with vendors, classes, and fly fishing "celebrities", with the added benefit of free wine tastings!

Check their website here for more info: http://www.vaflyfishingfestival.com

I'll be at the IFFF booth Saturday and Sunday morning, stop by and say hi if you're around, and if really want to help out and promote IFFF/TPFR by volunteering at the booth shoot me an e-mail.

Dalton

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

Water is very low below chain bridge and above Arizona road.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:

There usually isn't water above lock 8 and the few times there has been, I haven't bothered checking it out. It's always dry in the portion under 495. Further up, there's water again and I know people do target carp, but I have only tried once.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Ashley Frohwein <ashleyfrohwein@gmail.com> wrote:
Boo. So the culvert will be repaired this summer, but I wonder when they'll repair the log wall. I've never fished above lock 8 (by which I mean toward the beltway/away from Georgetown). Is there any good carp sight fishing up that way?

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-4, tperkins wrote:
Mark, thanks for making the inquiry! Hopefully they will get lock 1 fixed soon.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:

"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."

Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad: Are we there yet?

Slow today. I was fishing on the Fletcher's side, upstream from the Cove from shore. Very few splashes, caught 2 shad around 9:00am, then nothing for 2 hours. Did catch what google tells me was a quillback sucker - hooked him in the face, not sure if he was trying to eat the shad fly or I just fouled him.

On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 10:47:19 PM UTC-4, Andrew Sarcinello wrote:

I was out both last night and tonight in my usual after work spot, CB on the VA side. None yesterday, 1 shad tonight. Hoping tomorrow with the clouds will be a good day

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

There usually isn't water above lock 8 and the few times there has been, I haven't bothered checking it out. It's always dry in the portion under 495. Further up, there's water again and I know people do target carp, but I have only tried once.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Ashley Frohwein <ashleyfrohwein@gmail.com> wrote:

Boo. So the culvert will be repaired this summer, but I wonder when they'll repair the log wall. I've never fished above lock 8 (by which I mean toward the beltway/away from Georgetown). Is there any good carp sight fishing up that way?

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-4, tperkins wrote:
Mark, thanks for making the inquiry! Hopefully they will get lock 1 fixed soon.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:

"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."

Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

It looked like water was coming in by Fletcher's this morning. Not sure where that is in terms of locks, I guess it's above Lock 5.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:

"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."

Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

Boo. So the culvert will be repaired this summer, but I wonder when they'll repair the log wall. I've never fished above lock 8 (by which I mean toward the beltway/away from Georgetown). Is there any good carp sight fishing up that way?

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-4, tperkins wrote:

Mark, thanks for making the inquiry! Hopefully they will get lock 1 fixed soon.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:

"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."

Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Abridged summary of tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics

They will help you load your gear and maybe give you a push but you are really on your own.

It comes with a rock on a rope that is used as an anchor.

As far as it being easy for a single, it is if you have rowed a boat before. You often see people who have never done it before and they are struggling.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:53:48 AM UTC-4, Lisa Kaplan Gordon wrote:

Can anyone explain to me how the rowboats at Fletcher's work?
Does a staffer launch it for you? Does it come with an anchor? Is it easy enough for a a single to take out?
Thanks
Lisa

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Shad: Are we there yet? - 2 Updates

good video on fishing in the Shenandoah park. - 3 Updates

Tomorrow! Join me for Coal Ash Stories in Alexandria - 2 Updates

Shad: Are we there yet?

Alexei Silverman <alexei.s...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 11:56AM -0700

Solid shad day on Saturday, then last nights's cold snap seriously slowed things down as connected w very few this am and most of the boats seemed to be similar straits.
...more

Andrew Sarcinello <andy...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 07:47PM -0700

I was out both last night and tonight in my usual after work spot, CB on the VA side. None yesterday, 1 shad tonight. Hoping tomorrow with the clouds will be a good day
...more

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good video on fishing in the Shenandoah park.

Ryan DiAndrea <ryan.d...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 08:22AM -0400

Pretty cool. I love stuff about Virginia fishing. I wonder where in the
park she was....

...more

Ashley Frohwein <ashleyf...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 01:21PM -0700

looks like whiteoak to me.

On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 8:23:07 AM UTC-4, Ryan D wrote:
...more

Ashley Frohwein <ashleyf...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 01:22PM -0700

4MR = Totally Polluted Fo' Real

On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 2:32:52 PM UTC-4, Terry C wrote:
...more

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Tomorrow! Join me for Coal Ash Stories in Alexandria

GSFeder <gsf...@yahoo.com>: Mar 30 09:10AM -0400

Thought this would be of interest to the group.

Cheers,

-- Greg

Sent from my iPhone

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Dalton Terrell <daltonb...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 08:44AM -0700

Greg,

Thanks for sharing this, it sounds like a great event to attend. We will
also be hosting Dean Naujoks, the Potomac Riverkeeper, at our next Beer
Tie, but unfortunately with our setup at ...more

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Abridged summary of tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics

Can anyone explain to me how the rowboats at Fletcher's work?

Does a staffer launch it for you? Does it come with an anchor? Is it easy enough for a a single to take out?

Thanks

Lisa

Lisa Kaplan Gordon
Writer/Editor/Video Producer

Clients include Realtor.com, Yahoo!, AOL, Care2

703-624-3503

lisakaplangordon.com

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Shad: Are we there yet? - 2 Updates

good video on fishing in the Shenandoah park. - 3 Updates

Tomorrow! Join me for Coal Ash Stories in Alexandria - 2 Updates

Shad: Are we there yet?

Alexei Silverman <alexei.silverman@gmail.com>: Mar 30 11:56AM -0700

Solid shad day on Saturday, then last nights's cold snap seriously slowed things down as connected w very few this am and most of the boats seemed to be similar straits.
...more

Andrew Sarcinello <andysarce@gmail.com>: Mar 30 07:47PM -0700

I was out both last night and tonight in my usual after work spot, CB on the VA side. None yesterday, 1 shad tonight. Hoping tomorrow with the clouds will be a good day
...more

Back to top

good video on fishing in the Shenandoah park.

Ryan DiAndrea <ryan.diandrea@gmail.com>: Mar 30 08:22AM -0400

Pretty cool. I love stuff about Virginia fishing. I wonder where in the
park she was....

...more

Ashley Frohwein <ashleyfrohwein@gmail.com>: Mar 30 01:21PM -0700

looks like whiteoak to me.

On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 8:23:07 AM UTC-4, Ryan D wrote:
...more

Ashley Frohwein <ashleyfrohwein@gmail.com>: Mar 30 01:22PM -0700

4MR = Totally Polluted Fo' Real

On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 2:32:52 PM UTC-4, Terry C wrote:
...more

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Tomorrow! Join me for Coal Ash Stories in Alexandria

GSFeder <gsfeder@yahoo.com>: Mar 30 09:10AM -0400

Thought this would be of interest to the group.

Cheers,

-- Greg

Sent from my iPhone

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Dalton Terrell <daltonbterrell@gmail.com>: Mar 30 08:44AM -0700

Greg,

Thanks for sharing this, it sounds like a great event to attend. We will
also be hosting Dean Naujoks, the Potomac Riverkeeper, at our next Beer
Tie, but unfortunately with our setup at ...more

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

Mark, thanks for making the inquiry! Hopefully they will get lock 1 fixed soon.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:

"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."

Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

Wow, so is that saying no water at all this entire season from Georgetown to outside the Beltway? It sounds like I'll have to find a new place for the mulberry hatch then this season... I guess the water that was in between 6 and 7 is an anomaly?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:

"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."

Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

A PM inquiry via the Canal's FB page received just now:

"For now, water will enter the canal above Great Falls as normal at Violletts lock, and continue down to just above the "Log Wall" at Mile 11.2. Water will not be in the canal below the Log Wall and Lock 5 / Inlet Lock 1 for two reasons: repairs are required at the Log Wall and a culvert is being repaired this summer near Carderock. On a related note, maintenance Division is currently clearing debris from inlet Lock 1 to begin the process of re-watering from Lock 5 to Georgetown."

Might want to check with whomever is doing the clearing at Lock 1 for progress reports. There's a guide to mile markers here: http://www.candocanal.org/access.html

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

The continual water doesn't go east of the pedestrian overpass at Francis Scott Key park. I haven't walked upstream from Georgetown yet.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

I've been wondering the same. It is watered in between locks 6 and 7.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:59 AM, <kylef...@gmail.com> wrote:
It appears the bluegills and largemouth bass didn't get the memo from NPS that the canal isn't open for the season yet.

Between Key Bridge and the Whitehurst Freeway overpass I counted a dozen LMB ranging 6-12 inches in size and 500+ bluegills yesterday mostly in the 2-4 inch range but with a few 6-7 inch fish. Water depths looked to be 6-24 inches. There is little to no cover or apparent food. I'm guessing they like the warmth of shallow water and lack of current, possibly pre-spawn for the bluegills. The 10-12 inch LMBs are probably following their food. (See blurry bass pic)

Right now it seems a little unsporting to toss buggy dries at bluegills or strip streamers for bass in a glorified puddle.

Does anyone know when NPS will flood the canal?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 8:28:43 AM UTC-4, kylef...@gmail.com wrote:

It appears the bluegills and largemouth bass didn't get the memo from NPS that the canal isn't open for the season yet.

Between Key Bridge and the Whitehurst Freeway overpass I counted a dozen LMB ranging 6-12 inches in size and 500+ bluegills yesterday mostly in the 2-4 inch range but with a few 6-7 inch fish. Water depths looked to be 6-24 inches. There is little to no cover or apparent food. I'm guessing they like the warmth of shallow water and lack of current, possibly pre-spawn for the bluegills. The 10-12 inch LMBs are probably following their food. (See blurry bass pic)

Right now it seems a little unsporting to toss buggy dries at bluegills or strip streamers for bass in a glorified puddle.

Does anyone know when NPS will flood the canal?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} C&O Canal: There's fish but no water

I've been wondering the same. It is watered in between locks 6 and 7.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:59 AM, <kylefitzroy@gmail.com> wrote:

It appears the bluegills and largemouth bass didn't get the memo from NPS that the canal isn't open for the season yet.

Between Key Bridge and the Whitehurst Freeway overpass I counted a dozen LMB ranging 6-12 inches in size and 500+ bluegills yesterday mostly in the 2-4 inch range but with a few 6-7 inch fish. Water depths looked to be 6-24 inches. There is little to no cover or apparent food. I'm guessing they like the warmth of shallow water and lack of current, possibly pre-spawn for the bluegills. The 10-12 inch LMBs are probably following their food. (See blurry bass pic)

Right now it seems a little unsporting to toss buggy dries at bluegills or strip streamers for bass in a glorified puddle.

Does anyone know when NPS will flood the canal?

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