Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders

Tuesday, 31 July 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Hooper Island, MD

Tom G.

I know this is a year later but I'm looking to do some salt water fly fishing on the bay from my kayak. I just got a 9' 9wt that I'm itching to try. Since this post was from just about a year ago I'm wondering if you could report on your trip since I'm assuming the conditions were similar. Were there any fish? What was working? I'm hoping to get out this weekend, would you recommend that location?

Dave

On Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:18:48 PM UTC-4, TomG wrote:

This weekend three of us are headed to the Cambridge/Hooper Island area of Chesapeake Bay with our kayaks to try some inshore s/w fly fishing. Since none of us have been there before any advice/recommendation would be welcomed, eg, best boat launches, areas to fish, flys to use, etc. Thanks.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Rubber Duckie First Fishing outing

Hope you fished the cove to the left of that picture!

On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:22:49 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:

Took Rubber Duckie out on Lake Audubon on Saturday with scott to chase some bass. What a great day and fantastic single person boat. Had a wonderful day with many bass and blue gills.

If anyone has other recommendations, I'm looking for places to go Saturday and Sunday this weekend.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Rock Creek near Tilden

I can't believe it, but this guy took a hares ear nymph on rock creek. I also saw the biggest cat fish under the bridge there. Anyone else fishing rock creek?

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Rubber Duckie First Fishing outing

Took Rubber Duckie out on Lake Audubon on Saturday with scott to chase some bass. What a great day and fantastic single person boat. Had a wonderful day with many bass and blue gills.

If anyone has other recommendations, I'm looking for places to go Saturday and Sunday this weekend.

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tibor...outdated?

Tibor is my favorite reel on the market. I've been using them in the Keys for the last 6 years and they're indestructible. I use the gulfstream on a twelve for tarpon and the riptide on a 9 and everglades on an 8. Never a problem no matter how much you beat them up. I also like the Orvis Mirage and a couple of the Lamson reels. I've had issues with abel's drag binding up.

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:16:51 AM UTC-4, Gaucho Fly wrote:

You bring up a good point when you say that you have never lost a fish due to gear failure... I bet there are few people on this board who have. I have been using the same Scientific Anglers 8/9 Saltwater reel for many years on everything from large Jack's, false albacore, baby tarpon, bonefish to Steelhead and whatever else I can throw a line at without even a hint of a problem. I think past a certain level of basic quality and routine maintenance, the rest is just for the fisherman... THere are very few circumstances in which a reel will break in my opinion and most of those are due to user error.

On Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:08:53 PM UTC-5, Dalton Terrell wrote:
I do have some experience with Tibor reels, as my old boss has a
collection of two of each size of these reels matched up with two of
each weight 6 & 8-12 Sage XP rod. I definitely believe in having
backup gear and this set up is clearly overkill, but I didn't complain
when I got to play around with the high end equipment. My experience
with the Tibor's were in a boat, fishing for summer time striped bass
in the bay, schoolie size--almost none of these fish get on the reel.
I have not personally put the drags to the test, but my boss had done
this from bonefish to big roosterfish and blackfin tuna, with no
failure or complaints. He has dunked the reels while wading flats for
bonefish and still had the drag hold up well. I'm not sure how old his
reels were, but the ones that I used had no issues from sharp edges.
These reels were nice but are perpetually out of my price range. They
are made to last a lifetime, and feel like they could survive an H-
bomb.
Check out this post on StripersOnline (http://www.stripersonline.com/
surftalk/showthread.php?t=398169), which is half-pissing contest/half-
engineering nerd out all surrounding the different types of drags with
heavy emphasis on the carbon fiber of Charltons and other newer reels
vs. the cork of Abels and Tibors.

With all of this being said, I can't say that I have ever lost fish
due to gear failure and I don't own anything as expensive as a Tibor,
though my saltwater fly fishing is limited to stripers and redfish. My
lost fish surround poor fighting technique or line maintenance, from
knots in the running line to running line wrapping around the rod
butt--all issues that aren't solved by a $1000 reel. Most of my reels
have some sort of plastic (or space age polymer) drag and friction
during start up is minimal on all but one reel, a J Ryall that I
haven't really liked since I bought it--this reel has high friction
during startup at all settings and significant fade causing occasional
overrun. I have full confidence in my Ross, Lamson, Austin Forbes and
Orvis reels for the fish they are designed to target.

I would take whatever anybody says with a grain of salt, as I would
guess that the shop in Florida didn't carry Tibors, and the Van Staal
happened to be their most expensive reel with the Nautilus coming in a
"close second".

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Monday, 30 July 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Heading to the OBX in 11 days

I am heading down to the outer banks in 11 days. I will be staying up North but I am considering making the trip to fish the Green Slough or the Lighthouse Slough. I have been tying a lot of clowser's and I have a bunch of other flies.

If the surf isn't too bad I may try to do some fishing from my kayak out in the ocean. Last year I was able to do this but I didn't catch a single fish (it was so frustrating to sit on a pile of bait fish and not catch a single fish). I had one hook up of what I think was a blue fish and I lost that one quickly. I would really love to get into a school of Spanish or Blues and tear into them but that is so hit or miss.

Does anyone have any good tips or strategies?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Paint Branch and first fish on my own fly

congrats on the your catch with the new flies it's feels good to catch a fish on something that you made, the flies you tie yourself are often times better because people that are tying these flies are going for maybe a hundred flies or more because its work.
On Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:26:06 PM UTC-4, Todd Kuethe wrote:

I won a vice at the last Beer Tie, and later that week, Miles set me up with all the essentials to tie a few (trout) flies on my own. This morning I finally had the chance to take these (not exactly) beauties for a spin. I've been curious about the Paint Branch for some time, so I decided to fish the mile or so downstream from Fairland Road. I didn't see the brown trout that are rumored to be in the water, but I had plenty of fun with the aggressive strikes from the panfish and chubs. Attached are the first two fish I caught on my own flies: one nymph and one dry (a bead head pheasant tail and an adams). It really is a lot more fun to catch them on your own flies, even when the fish aren't that impressive. Thanks again Miles and Dan and all the folks who gave me a few pointers at the Beer Tie!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

Paul the Fishing may have been a little rough because the water temp was up there-the bass stayed deep until the water temp was more comfortable. The best thing to do if your fishing from shore is look for minnows or bluegills, if you see them shallow then the bass will most likely be shallow, you can usually get them to come up by throwing some cracker crumbs in the water or you can take a thermometer and measure the water temp like the trout boys. If you don't see minnows or bluegills shallow fan cast and cast in the corners and up under the bridge. The warm temp makes it so you have to slow down your retrieve I don't care what some guy told you in the Fly Fisherman magazine but your not going to have a bass or snakehead chase down a fast moving fly when the water temp is high. The flies that slayed them over the years in the chanel and tidal basin for me where black sponge spiders make sure the legs aren't to long over 1/2 inch-chart/white clousers with some flash in them size #2 or #4- bluegill size poppers in a chart/black and chart/white-beadhead nymph- black wooly buggers. The spot where the tree limb comes down almost to the water is the prime spot but don't beat it to death fish it 20 minutes and move up the wall them work your way back.
On Monday, July 30, 2012 4:02:22 PM UTC-4, Paul Kalajainen wrote:

I went over to the Tidal Basin on Friday evening about 6:45-8:45. It was pretty close to dark by the time I left, maybe the prime time would have been a little later, but I didn't get anything. I walked up and down the wall from the bridge to the FDR memorial casting basically parallel to the wall and stripping the line in from there. I used a variety of colors of woolly buggers - no luck. Any specific places along the wall where the fish like to hang out?

-Paul

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

I went over to the Tidal Basin on Friday evening about 6:45-8:45. It was pretty close to dark by the time I left, maybe the prime time would have been a little later, but I didn't get anything. I walked up and down the wall from the bridge to the FDR memorial casting basically parallel to the wall and stripping the line in from there. I used a variety of colors of woolly buggers - no luck. Any specific places along the wall where the fish like to hang out?

-Paul

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Bonus days

Awesome! I'll send you a private message Tie&Fly and we will figure out the details.

Everyone else... still got a couple of bonus days this weekend and beginning of next week... hit me up.

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:30:56 PM UTC-4, Tie&Fly wrote:

I'm in! I'm new to the forum but I've done a little fly fishing. I've hit only a few of the places around here though, and really have meant to get to know the water better. Of the days you listed I'm free on the 18th and the 20th. However I'm free every day after 4 so a quick afternoon trip is a possibilty.

On Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:04:12 PM UTC-4, Misha Gill wrote:
I've got just under a month left in my summer here in Washington D.C., but only one more week of my internship (I'm a rising 3L at Penn State Law). So I'm going to have a couple of bonus days in the big city. Naturally, that means I'm going to do some fishing.

Basically, the point of this post is, does anyone want to join me? I know, I know, I've never had a positive reaction to a solicitation from a random group member either. But hear me out.

I want to do a float (I've got an inflatable kayak) for some smallmouths, either on the Potomac above Riverbend or the main stem Shenandoah. If you're like me you hate being limited to an area around the launch and having to row upstream at the end of the day. So if you want to team up on a stretch of river, let's see if we can work something out. I've got a pretty flexible schedule once my internship ends. I can go any day from August 4th to the 7th, and then again from the 16th to the 20th. It's good to stay flexible, this is fishing after all. Plans are subject to change!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Just spent the day in PA

Carl, you were right in my neighborhood (during the semester I live right across the street from the Letort in Carlisle), and I'm glad you had some luck. I'm impressed you got some fish on Big Spring, in my experience it can be every bit as hard as the Letort! Nice when you get on the water right before a front moves through, gotta love a dropping barometer. What were they biting on?

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:53:28 AM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

I spent the day up in south central PA doing some trout fishing.

I left D.C. at 8:00, got up to the Yellow Breeches at 9:45, stopped by
the fly shop and picked up some local flys and was fishing by 10:15.
I spent 3 hours and bagged about 10 trout and a handful of
fallfish&chubs. The brown's were taking size 18 caddis dry's.

From the Yellow Breeches, I made a quick stop at the Letort. I didn't
expect to catch anything, and I wasn't disappointed. If you move too
fast, or make a single bad cast, you spook the fish. I did spook a big
looking (20") trout and a 16" brown came up an sipped a bug 4 feet from
me, right at the bank. I didn't spend much time at the Letort, but it
was worth a visit.

I did a quick stop at Big Spring on the way home just to scout it out.
It is a nice spring creek. Not as hard as the Letort, but not as easy
as the Yellow Breeches.
As a thunderstorm was threatening I was able to get a couple of nice
rainbows. As the Thunderstorm rolled in, I packed up for home.

The Yellow Breeches was elbow to elbow fishing (ok, about every 30 yards
there was an angler), and isn't easy, but there are a ton of fish and
they feed all summer long. It's funny trying to tye on a size 20
caddis. The fly is smaller than the eye on my size 2 clousers.

Carl

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Sunday, 29 July 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Bonus days

I'm in! I'm new to the forum but I've done a little fly fishing. I've hit only a few of the places around here though, and really have meant to get to know the water better. Of the days you listed I'm free on the 18th and the 20th. However I'm free every day after 4 so a quick afternoon trip is a possibilty.

On Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:04:12 PM UTC-4, Misha Gill wrote:

I've got just under a month left in my summer here in Washington D.C., but only one more week of my internship (I'm a rising 3L at Penn State Law). So I'm going to have a couple of bonus days in the big city. Naturally, that means I'm going to do some fishing.

Basically, the point of this post is, does anyone want to join me? I know, I know, I've never had a positive reaction to a solicitation from a random group member either. But hear me out.

I want to do a float (I've got an inflatable kayak) for some smallmouths, either on the Potomac above Riverbend or the main stem Shenandoah. If you're like me you hate being limited to an area around the launch and having to row upstream at the end of the day. So if you want to team up on a stretch of river, let's see if we can work something out. I've got a pretty flexible schedule once my internship ends. I can go any day from August 4th to the 7th, and then again from the 16th to the 20th. It's good to stay flexible, this is fishing after all. Plans are subject to change!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} sunday club casting

Always an educational outing - Thanks for being generous with your time.

Lee

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:16:30 PM UTC, John wrote:

Turned out to be a very nice morning on the river.
Thanks everyone for showing up.
See you next time.

John

On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Carl Zmola wrote:

> I plan on coming. Can you bring your Z-Axis?
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> On 07/28/2012 05:30 PM, John Bilotta wrote:
>> It's been way, way too long, but from about 10 a.m. Sunday, I will be down at Fletcher's if anyone wants to come by and get in some practice with your single or two handed rods. Let me know what you are working on and I will be glad to help. I will have a couple two handed rods with me. I'm in the green suburban down at the end of the lower lot.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} sunday club casting

Turned out to be a very nice morning on the river.
Thanks everyone for showing up.
See you next time.

John

On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Carl Zmola wrote:

> I plan on coming. Can you bring your Z-Axis?
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> Carl
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> On 07/28/2012 05:30 PM, John Bilotta wrote:
>> It's been way, way too long, but from about 10 a.m. Sunday, I will be down at Fletcher's if anyone wants to come by and get in some practice with your single or two handed rods. Let me know what you are working on and I will be glad to help. I will have a couple two handed rods with me. I'm in the green suburban down at the end of the lower lot.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Paint Branch and first fish on my own fly

Awesome, Todd! Expect many more and bigger fish to come.

-Miles

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Saturday, 28 July 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tibor...outdated?

You bring up a good point when you say that you have never lost a fish due to gear failure... I bet there are few people on this board who have. I have been using the same Scientific Anglers 8/9 Saltwater reel for many years on everything from large Jack's, false albacore, baby tarpon, bonefish to Steelhead and whatever else I can throw a line at without even a hint of a problem. I think past a certain level of basic quality and routine maintenance, the rest is just for the fisherman... THere are very few circumstances in which a reel will break in my opinion and most of those are due to user error.

On Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:08:53 PM UTC-5, Dalton Terrell wrote:

I do have some experience with Tibor reels, as my old boss has a
collection of two of each size of these reels matched up with two of
each weight 6 & 8-12 Sage XP rod. I definitely believe in having
backup gear and this set up is clearly overkill, but I didn't complain
when I got to play around with the high end equipment. My experience
with the Tibor's were in a boat, fishing for summer time striped bass
in the bay, schoolie size--almost none of these fish get on the reel.
I have not personally put the drags to the test, but my boss had done
this from bonefish to big roosterfish and blackfin tuna, with no
failure or complaints. He has dunked the reels while wading flats for
bonefish and still had the drag hold up well. I'm not sure how old his
reels were, but the ones that I used had no issues from sharp edges.
These reels were nice but are perpetually out of my price range. They
are made to last a lifetime, and feel like they could survive an H-
bomb.
Check out this post on StripersOnline (http://www.stripersonline.com/
surftalk/showthread.php?t=398169), which is half-pissing contest/half-
engineering nerd out all surrounding the different types of drags with
heavy emphasis on the carbon fiber of Charltons and other newer reels
vs. the cork of Abels and Tibors.
With all of this being said, I can't say that I have ever lost fish
due to gear failure and I don't own anything as expensive as a Tibor,
though my saltwater fly fishing is limited to stripers and redfish. My
lost fish surround poor fighting technique or line maintenance, from
knots in the running line to running line wrapping around the rod
butt--all issues that aren't solved by a $1000 reel. Most of my reels
have some sort of plastic (or space age polymer) drag and friction
during start up is minimal on all but one reel, a J Ryall that I
haven't really liked since I bought it--this reel has high friction
during startup at all settings and significant fade causing occasional
overrun. I have full confidence in my Ross, Lamson, Austin Forbes and
Orvis reels for the fish they are designed to target.
I would take whatever anybody says with a grain of salt, as I would
guess that the shop in Florida didn't carry Tibors, and the Van Staal
happened to be their most expensive reel with the Nautilus coming in a
"close second".

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Just spent the day in PA

I spent the day up in south central PA doing some trout fishing.

I left D.C. at 8:00, got up to the Yellow Breeches at 9:45, stopped by
the fly shop and picked up some local flys and was fishing by 10:15.
I spent 3 hours and bagged about 10 trout and a handful of
fallfish&chubs. The brown's were taking size 18 caddis dry's.

From the Yellow Breeches, I made a quick stop at the Letort. I didn't
expect to catch anything, and I wasn't disappointed. If you move too
fast, or make a single bad cast, you spook the fish. I did spook a big
looking (20") trout and a 16" brown came up an sipped a bug 4 feet from
me, right at the bank. I didn't spend much time at the Letort, but it
was worth a visit.

I did a quick stop at Big Spring on the way home just to scout it out.
It is a nice spring creek. Not as hard as the Letort, but not as easy
as the Yellow Breeches.
As a thunderstorm was threatening I was able to get a couple of nice
rainbows. As the Thunderstorm rolled in, I packed up for home.

The Yellow Breeches was elbow to elbow fishing (ok, about every 30 yards
there was an angler), and isn't easy, but there are a ton of fish and
they feed all summer long. It's funny trying to tye on a size 20
caddis. The fly is smaller than the eye on my size 2 clousers.

Carl

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} sunday club casting

I plan on coming. Can you bring your Z-Axis?

Carl

On 07/28/2012 05:30 PM, John Bilotta wrote:
> It's been way, way too long, but from about 10 a.m. Sunday, I will be down at Fletcher's if anyone wants to come by and get in some practice with your single or two handed rods. Let me know what you are working on and I will be glad to help. I will have a couple two handed rods with me. I'm in the green suburban down at the end of the lower lot.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: sunday club casting

John,

I was just thinking the same this morning when I took my 2-hander out with a scandi line for the first time. Wow, much harder than a short skagit. I could definitely use some of your expertise in the finer arts. I'm not entirely sure I can get away but I'd love to join. Hope to see you in the am.

Steve F.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} sunday club casting

It's been way, way too long, but from about 10 a.m. Sunday, I will be down at Fletcher's if anyone wants to come by and get in some practice with your single or two handed rods. Let me know what you are working on and I will be glad to help. I will have a couple two handed rods with me. I'm in the green suburban down at the end of the lower lot.

John

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Paint Branch and first fish on my own fly

I won a vice at the last Beer Tie, and later that week, Miles set me up with all the essentials to tie a few (trout) flies on my own. This morning I finally had the chance to take these (not exactly) beauties for a spin. I've been curious about the Paint Branch for some time, so I decided to fish the mile or so downstream from Fairland Road. I didn't see the brown trout that are rumored to be in the water, but I had plenty of fun with the aggressive strikes from the panfish and chubs. Attached are the first two fish I caught on my own flies: one nymph and one dry (a bead head pheasant tail and an adams). It really is a lot more fun to catch them on your own flies, even when the fish aren't that impressive. Thanks again Miles and Dan and all the folks who gave me a few pointers at the Beer Tie!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Bonus days

I've got just under a month left in my summer here in Washington D.C., but only one more week of my internship (I'm a rising 3L at Penn State Law). So I'm going to have a couple of bonus days in the big city. Naturally, that means I'm going to do some fishing.

Basically, the point of this post is, does anyone want to join me? I know, I know, I've never had a positive reaction to a solicitation from a random group member either. But hear me out.

I want to do a float (I've got an inflatable kayak) for some smallmouths, either on the Potomac above Riverbend or the main stem Shenandoah. If you're like me you hate being limited to an area around the launch and having to row upstream at the end of the day. So if you want to team up on a stretch of river, let's see if we can work something out. I've got a pretty flexible schedule once my internship ends. I can go any day from August 4th to the 7th, and then again from the 16th to the 20th. It's good to stay flexible, this is fishing after all. Plans are subject to change!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} NC opportunities?

Headed for the Boone/Blowing Rock area of NC next week. Any recommendations for accessible rivers/streams as well as any bass waters in that area?
Thanks as always!

Scott Wilber
3800 23rd Street N
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

When you first come in to the Tidal Basin area there is parking directly across you'll usually see a row of buses and I've never had a problem getting parking during the week the weekends are a different story, I was fishing at mid dayand the heat wasn't to bad on Tuesday. If you want you can park at east potomac park and walk down it's a 15 minute walk. There is no wading in the Tidal Basin.
On Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:20:44 PM UTC-4, McFly wrote:

I fished the tidal basin Tuesday and caught several good size smallmout bass and two huge largemouth. The fish seemed to hang up close to the wall especially around any shade or cover in the water. I noticed that the clouser minnows that had red eyes that resemble the bluegills in the river caught all the fish. I was having a pretty good trip until I was snagged between my thumb and index finger while unhooking a huge smallmouth. I'm tying a few flies with the red eyes to see if the fish really prefer them.

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Friday, 27 July 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

Thanks Aaron. Thinking about making a trip here in the near future.

On Friday, July 27, 2012 5:53:56 AM UTC-7, Aaron O wrote:

Hey JP,

     There is no wading at the basin. Your actually standing on a raised wall with a metal fence around it.

     As far as parking, There is limited parking right at the basin but you have to get there pretty early or late to secure a parking spot otherwise you may be driving around a while. I would suggest either bringing a roll of quarters with you just in case you can't find a spot or better than that, take the metro in. Its about a 3 block walk to the basin but then you dont need to deal with parking or the traffic.

Hope that helps and enjoy the views. :)

Aaron

P.S. Just make sure if you hook a tourist, It's catch and release ONLY!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: My visit to Congaree National Park

Photos Attached like I promised.

The Second photo is the lake. The other two photos are teh walking path to get to the lake.

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Flies for Weakfish

I’d suggest finding out what the available baitfish is in the area. You’ll find they eat a lot of shrimp and small baitfish. Try using the following fly patterns (bold have been popular colors for weaks):

· Clouser minnows, or Half & Half – Yellow over white, pink over white, chartreuse over white, pink over yellow, and pink over chartreuse (also known as either Tutti Frutti, or the Electric Chicken in the Carolinas)

· Epoxy Shrimp – Any color will do, but pink and clear work well

· EP Peanut Butter – Chartreuse over white, gray over white

· Skok’s Whitebait – Chartreuse over white, tan over white

Hope that helps a little.

Richard Farino

Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street 2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314

(703) 527-2524 | fax: (703) 527-3313 | richard@urbanangler.com

From: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com [mailto:tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of darbrewe
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Flies for Weakfish

Hi Everyone,
Long time lurker that needs to get off his butt and start contributing to this fine forum. I am a novice FF but have learned quite a bit here. Been
Been a spin fisherman for yrs (mostly out of my Tarpon 100 kayak) but I caught the fly fishing bug when I was up at La Reserve Beauchene a few yrs
ago. I have devoted the entire spring and summer so far to the long rod and have been moderately successful catching bass although my casting is sometimes a trainwreck..
Anyways, I am headed to Chincoteague VA this sunday for a few days and hope to fish some of the back water around there, specifically for weakfish. Can anyone recommend flies for me?
Thanks
Darryl Brewer

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Flies for Weakfish

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Probably redundent and definately subjective question on fly selection

Personaly for added weight. A lil split shot like bass fishing weigh goes a long way. Other guys on here might not agree but i tie massive heavy streamers and toss them with even my 4 weight. You just gptta wath your back cast and keep your loop big. You givevupva little distance and might smack the back of your head a few times but its worth it when you hook a big fish.

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On Jul 27, 2012 8:29 AM, "Aaron O" <aaron@jorgeinc.com> wrote:
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> Hey Carl,
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> Thanks for the good info, Sorry if I was a little vague in my questioning, I was mainly trying to figure out if I could use those flies on the 6 wt (I figured I could use on that size) and my 5 wt. The 5 wt. was the one I was more concerned about but I will give it a try until I can tie some smaller streamers. I currently dont have smaller streamers other than some wooly buggers but I have not had any success with them. As far as the fish type, I do understand what you mean . I did mention that I was going for small mouth in small lakes and river but maybe I should have clarified it was bass with some possible striper schoolies. I did not have much more information at that point due to not visiting the site yet. I will actually be adding a post about yesterdays trip right after this one. I plan on going back today to give it another try but please check out the post to help explain more.
>
> As far as fishing my 5 wt., I mainly have some dry flies, a couple nymphs and those woolies I mentioned earlier but unfortunately I dont have any putty to help keep it down. I may have to go a little MCGYVER (for those under 30, it may involve chewing gum, paper clips and a little mental grease)and figure something out.
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> Will keep you informed, :)
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} My visit to Congaree National Park

Spending a couple days in Columbia, SC and found out there is Congaree national park about a half hour from me with the Broad river and a couple lakes waiting for me. Not know for great fishing but who can pass up spending an evening at one of our great national parks and a chance to dip a line in for a while.

Left work at 4:30PM and raced over there to get to the visitors center before 5PM when they closed. Got there just in time and was able to get a little information on where I should concentrate and what I may catch. You are allowed to fish any of the waters except Western Lake but I was advised that they mostly see guys at Wise lake of Broad river at the docks. I then geared up and realized that I left my flies back at the store. One hour round trip (muttering curses to myself) and I was back at the park and ready to go.

Now I should mention that spending a late July evening in a south Carolina swamp may get a little steamy, but that would be an understatement. I was wearing long sleave shirt and pants to protect me from the insects and it was over 100* and extremely humid. I was absolutely drenched in sweat and my glasses were constantly fogged up. My hands actually pruned and yet I never actually got in the water.

Back to the story, So I decided to try out Wise lake and hiked 1.2 miles to the lake. This was the absolute perfect picture of a swampy lake. Movie makers could not have done a better job. Right as I walked up to the lake (20 th 25 ft. from edge), some fish (atleast I hope it was a fish) must have seen me because the edge of the water exploded with something swimming away. Well the short of it was that I tried my 6 wt. with walt hoppers and wooly buggers with no luck other than one little nibble. There was atleast one fish in there. It did take something off the surface once or twice but it was nothing I was throwing. I left for the long hike back a little before dark skunked and a little sullen but still happy I went.

Now I know you don't normally see post about trips that were not that successful but that is specifically the reason I wrote it. I may not have caught anything but I did learn some things for next time and enjoyed the experience (excluding the sweat and annoying knat that would not stop buzzing around my head). It was much more technical than I originally suspect due to the amount of ceder trees with cedar knees sticking out of the ground. I had a lot of trouble casting between the trees (with limited space for back casting) and with my line getting caught in the roots and knees. I now realize I should have taken my 5 wt. and possibly work on roll casting right from the beginning.

I plan on going back there tonight and try out the river this time. I will make sure to post about that experience when I get back in town.

Aaron

P.S. I will try and attach the photos when I get a moment

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

Pinch down the barbs on your hooks. 3 years ago I wrecked my fathers day fishing trip by embedding an Aggravator nymph, size 6 Tiemco 200R, in case you're interested ;-) in my eyebrow. Now all barbs get mashed before mounting in the vise.

On Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:20:44 PM UTC-4, McFly wrote:

I was having a pretty good trip until I was snagged between my thumb and index finger while unhooking a huge smallmouth.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

I find that there's almost always a few spots on the road between FDR and the river (near a bunch of athletic fields). It's probably a bit too much of a walk for most people who want to get to the heart of the mall.

On Friday, July 27, 2012 8:53:56 AM UTC-4, Aaron O wrote:

Hey JP,

     There is no wading at the basin. Your actually standing on a raised wall with a metal fence around it.

     As far as parking, There is limited parking right at the basin but you have to get there pretty early or late to secure a parking spot otherwise you may be driving around a while. I would suggest either bringing a roll of quarters with you just in case you can't find a spot or better than that, take the metro in. Its about a 3 block walk to the basin but then you dont need to deal with parking or the traffic.

Hope that helps and enjoy the views. :)

Aaron

P.S. Just make sure if you hook a tourist, It's catch and release ONLY!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Riverbend Fishing Report

Carl,

Your a rock star! I will take your suggestions to heart and plan to tie some up soon. Love the hoppers too!

Aaron

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

Hey JP,

There is no wading at the basin. Your actually standing on a raised wall with a metal fence around it.

As far as parking, There is limited parking right at the basin but you have to get there pretty early or late to secure a parking spot otherwise you may be driving around a while. I would suggest either bringing a roll of quarters with you just in case you can't find a spot or better than that, take the metro in. Its about a 3 block walk to the basin but then you dont need to deal with parking or the traffic.

Hope that helps and enjoy the views. :)

Aaron

P.S. Just make sure if you hook a tourist, It's catch and release ONLY!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Probably redundent and definately subjective question on fly selection

Hey Carl,

Thanks for the good info, Sorry if I was a little vague in my questioning, I was mainly trying to figure out if I could use those flies on the 6 wt (I figured I could use on that size) and my 5 wt. The 5 wt. was the one I was more concerned about but I will give it a try until I can tie some smaller streamers. I currently dont have smaller streamers other than some wooly buggers but I have not had any success with them. As far as the fish type, I do understand what you mean . I did mention that I was going for small mouth in small lakes and river but maybe I should have clarified it was bass with some possible striper schoolies. I did not have much more information at that point due to not visiting the site yet. I will actually be adding a post about yesterdays trip right after this one. I plan on going back today to give it another try but please check out the post to help explain more.

As far as fishing my 5 wt., I mainly have some dry flies, a couple nymphs and those woolies I mentioned earlier but unfortunately I dont have any putty to help keep it down. I may have to go a little MCGYVER (for those under 30, it may involve chewing gum, paper clips and a little mental grease)and figure something out.

Will keep you informed, :)

Aaron

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 4 Mile Run

Hi Ken,

If you are fishing from the south side of that location, fish along the shore -- that is, cast parallel to the shore so that your fly lands near shore. Four-Mile Run is mostly shallow featureless bottom; the deep spots you can't hit with a one-hander from the south shore, except that there is a channel running alongside that shore. Anywhere you see rocks added to the river bank, especially with the metal mesh, means there is a sharp drop-off into the water and a deeper channel running along the bank. That's where the fish will be most of the time, at least the bass and bluegill, especially at higher tides. So if you are right-handed, you can start at the bridge and work your way upstream, casting along the bank, and your backcast should be out over the water.

You can wade some from the north side, if you park near the sewage plant or walk over the bridge from the south.

--Miles

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: TSA Regs and restrictions

I just got back from a trip to Idaho, during which I took 4 rods, three reels, forceps, nippers, etc. plus about 200 flies as carry-on baggage. I didn't have any problems with that, but the TSA were gigantic jerkwads with respect to some other aspects of my personal baggage. The risk you run with the TSA is that the agents simply don't know what the regs are: in my case, they failed twice to obey their own rules. Telling them "these are your rules, you have to follow them" seems to confuse and anger them, and made the situation worse for me. Even when I was forced into a "private screening", they did not open my tackle case. My research project for this morning is trying to figure out if I can ever fly again without being violated by the TSA. But as I said, the fishing equipment was not at all a problem for me on this trip.

Incidentally, the TSA regulations state that it's up to the airlines to accept or reject fly-rod tubes as carry-on baggage. United was fine with me bringing the rod case on board, and I discovered that on one of the smaller commuter jets (Embraer something or other), there is a long narrow overhead compartment above first class that is perfect for a fly rod case or tube -- nothing else fits up there. I was not flying in first class, but the attendant told me I should put my rod case up there.

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Thursday, 26 July 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing the Tidal Basin Tuesday

3 questions:

Were you wading?

What time of day were you fishing?

And lastly, where is the best place to park for this particular strech?

Thanks for the help.

On Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:22:43 PM UTC-7, McFly wrote:

I was fishing on the side by the FDR war memorial, a chart/white clouser size #2, cast up and strip the fly close to the wall. When you first come down the walk way make a right and go up in the corner by the bridge and work your way down, there is a low branch providing a little shade farther up and that spot holds a few good bass every trip. Directly behind the memorial is a marble bench for some reason they love that spot also.
On Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:48:49 PM UTC-4, Paul Kalajainen wrote:
What side of the Basin were you fishing? And what size clousers?

Thanks!
Paul

On Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:20:44 PM UTC-4, McFly wrote:
I fished the tidal basin Tuesday and caught several good size smallmout bass and two huge largemouth. The fish seemed to hang up close to the wall especially around any shade or cover in the water. I noticed that the clouser minnows that had red eyes that resemble the bluegills in the river caught all the fish. I was having a pretty good trip until I was snagged between my thumb and index finger while unhooking a huge smallmouth. I'm tying a few flies with the red eyes to see if the fish really prefer them.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Probably redundent and definately subjective question on fly selection

agree, a 6 wt is fine.

john

On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Greg Feder wrote:

Aaron --

I defer to the more experienced and actually certified folks in the club, but I think you can throw some pretty big stuff with your 6 wt. You might use a shorter, stiffer leader, and the flies may land a little hard, but bass aren't leader shy, and that ker-plop is often what gets their attention anyway.

Bring your 6 wt. out to a local waterway or grass field and try it.

Cheers,

-- Greg (who has only 4wt and 6wt outfits)

From: Aaron O <aaron@jorgeinc.com>
To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Probably redundent and definately subjective question on fly selection

I normally fish using a 7wt 10 rod using 2/0 clousers, half and halfs, lollypops, large walt poppers, etc... I am currently only have access to a 5 wt and a 6 wt for small mouth fishing on a river or large lake out of state. Should I be concerned that these flys are too large and heavy? I'm assuming that I'm over analizing this but I dont want to waste my limited time fishing. I do have some smaller wooly buggers and a couple other flies but all of my success in the past has been with the larger streamers.

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Wednesday, 25 July 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Duck Pond fishing report 7.26.12

I hit the duck pond early this morning for about 2 hours and it fished well. I caught several channel cats and one mud cat on a yellow muddler minnow and a few LM on crayfish patterns…the duck pond looks prime for canoe and kayak fishing…absolutely gorgeous morning on the water, felt like fall compared to the heat we have had.

-Trent

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Yaks Float!

Another great app that I use on the boat ad well as when fishing is navionics. Its similar to inav. The thing I like the most is the fact you take pictures and it saves them by the gps coordinates as well is providing real time wind and tied conditions as well as a community layer that allows you to share real time info with other users. Here is a screen shot of fletchers. Sorry for the color distortion. Its the screen app I downloaded. The app works on both android and IPAD / iphone

On Jul 25, 2012 9:20 PM, "Jeff Cook" <cookstudios@mac.com> wrote:

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} New Inflatable Pontoon Boat Outing

So this weekend I am gonna give the new boat a shakedown. The following weekend, I'm looking for ideas on other lakes, or good areas to take the boat. I looked over the map, but figured maybe someone had a recommendation or two?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Yaks Float!

It's an active charting iPhone app called iNavX, and is the sister to desktop programs called MacENC and GPSNavX - all only for Apple products, I think. That chart is an exact image of the printed NOAA chart, so yeah, it shows depths above Key Bridge and everywhere. Charts are free on all versions and there's also vector charting on the desktop products. It links to another app called AyeTides.

There are simpler, much more intuitive - and cheaper - marine charting mobile apps, but I like having active functions on the printed chart images.

Jeff Cook

cookstudios@mac.com

On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Connor Donovan <donovac@gmail.com> wrote:

Jeff - what app is that? It looks quite handy. Do you know if it has depths for the potomac above Key Bridge?

Connor

On Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:18:42 PM UTC-4, Jeff Cook wrote:
Just trying out the inflatable for the first time, down at Dyke Marsh. I should done this years ago! No fishing gear, but I won't make that mistake again. Im emailing from the water, and it's cooling off fast. I've counting five jumpers in the last ten minutes, including one that gulped after a bug three times over about two feet before giving up.

I thought it was slack tide, but something's pushing me back north. Time to paddle...

It's the AE Straightedge Angler. Nice.

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Jeff Cook
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4 Mile Run

4 Mile Run is fine for wading, certainly up a bit West from the bridges.

In a message dated 7/25/2012 6:14:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ken.tanaka@live.com writes:

Hi everyone,

Two weeks ago I went over to 4 mile run (near shoppers) after reading
several posts from the forum and to my surprise noticed that this
place is no where near a friendly place to fly fish! (at least from
the south side of the canal.) There is absolutely no space to do a
normal cast! I had to resort to practicing some roll casts which was
actually a good thing but regardless of this...

I wanted to know if most of you fish this area by wading. This place
seems to have a lot of fish as I saw lots of carp near the bridge
pilings the other weekend. The only way I find it possible to reach
these fish is either by boat or by wading if it's safe and possible...

I appreciate your thoughts and comments!

Regards,

Ken.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4 Mile Run

Hi everyone,

Two weeks ago I went over to 4 mile run (near shoppers) after reading
several posts from the forum and to my surprise noticed that this
place is no where near a friendly place to fly fish! (at least from
the south side of the canal.) There is absolutely no space to do a
normal cast! I had to resort to practicing some roll casts which was
actually a good thing but regardless of this...

I wanted to know if most of you fish this area by wading. This place
seems to have a lot of fish as I saw lots of carp near the bridge
pilings the other weekend. The only way I find it possible to reach
these fish is either by boat or by wading if it's safe and possible...

I appreciate your thoughts and comments!

Regards,

Ken.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Riverbend Fishing Report

The Shannon's streamer looks pretty good. I think that it will have similar action to Shenk's White Streamer.

Shenk's White is an easy streamer to tie and I have been making them for years. Once you get the hang of the dubbing loop the rest is straight forward. I tie these in size 8, 6, and 4. The hook is Mustad 9672 and I use a heavy tread in white. This is my go-to pattern for smallies.

http://www.smallmouthflyangler.com/articles/shenks-streamer.php

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing Log Software

The person who’ll get my hard earned dollars will be the guy who makes that software compatible with my Garmin software and downloads it all by plugging it into a USB port.

Richard Farino

Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street 2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314

(703) 527-2524 | fax: (703) 527-3313 | richard@urbanangler.com

From: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com [mailto:tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sidemadder
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:53 PM
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing Log Software

I think some of you might be interested in this link for a fishing log. It has some neat features.

http://fisherslog.com/

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