Sunday, 30 September 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Native, Wild, Holdover, or Stocked

Two pieces of information that have been posted recently, that I believe to be incorrect, have got me to thinking….   1.      John Gierach referring to himself as a native American in a book quote. 2.      Native brown trout populate the waters of Beaver Creek in MD.   John Gierach looks to be of European descent. In fact Gierach is a German name.   So,...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Native, Wild, Holdover, or Stocked...

Two pieces of information that have been posted recently, that I believe to be incorrect, have got me to thinking…. 1.      John Gierach referring to himself as a native American in a book quote. 2.      Native brown trout populate the waters of Beaver Creek in MD. John Gierach looks to be of European descent. In fact Gierach is a German name.   So, by my estimate,...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Spots for the Waderless?

I left my waders in NY.  Hopefully will have them next week.  Any spots aside from the Tidal Basin around DC where I can fish without waders?  I'm trying to get my fishing fix this week after work. -- http://www.tpfr.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders" group. To post to this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com....
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Massive schools of fish in 4MR

Looks like a tessellated darter. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Scott Stankus <sstankus@gmail.com> wrote: -- http://www.tpfr.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders" group. To post to this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For...
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Massive schools of fish in 4MR

I was out for a couple hours today first at Gravelly Point, then at Four Mile Run. I was have never seen the water so clear at either location. I was amazed. I also found it to be really low, even though I was out shortly after high tide.  I saw schools (at least a hundred fish in one - and an 18" LMB following) of Gizzard Shad at...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Spotted Bluegill "poachers" ?

I worked for DDOE in the water quality division for 2 years before landing my current job and I asked the DC fisheries biologists (who work out of the Anacostia Rec Center (AREC) about who enforces fishing regulations.  They, to the man, had no idea who would actually enforce the regs.  I suspect NPS might enforce the regs in certain locations, particuarly near the Tidal Basin....but I would guess that few if any of...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Spotted Bluegill "poachers" ?

Michael,That reply was much appreciated and interesting.  Any other literature or sources of information on game fish in this area, you would recommend? On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:45:31 PM UTC-4, Senor_denito wrote:I was really disturbed at seeing a group of three plucking loads of bluegill out from the Tidal Basin on makeshift short wooden rods.  I think they "chummed" the water.  Anyway I am not one...
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Spotted Bluegill "poachers" ?

John Gierach wrote a similar story in "Death, Taxes, and Leaky Waders" about a Vietnamese Community doing the exact same thing in one of his local ponds (keeping tons of bluegills) and he being asked to investigate because he was a stringer reporter for the outdoors column for a local newspaper."After a few phone calls and a little footwork, I came up with the following information:"A. None of these people were willing to risk...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Spotted Bluegill "poachers" ?

I was really disturbed at seeing a group of three plucking loads of bluegill out from the Tidal Basin on makeshift short wooden rods.  I think they "chummed" the water.  Anyway I am not one to profile but they could have been of middle eastern / asian descent.  As a blue gill was plucked out from the water it was slapped into a ziplock bag full of 20 plus bluegills.  I'm not sure if this is considered...
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Personal "bests"

Has anyone managed to catch the Gizzard shad?  Are they hang over from migration in May/April? On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Jeff Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote: Went out to the Potomac today just up river of Chain Bridge (I call it the landing pad) this afternoon and managed to set a couple personal bests... Smallest fish I've ever caught (picture attached), then a striped bass which is my first from the...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Massive schools of fish in 4MR

Nerodia!  I worked with Western Cottonmouths in 2008 -- also had some pygmy rattlers, copperheads and many northern water snakes in the lab.  Funny thing about the northerns (and other nerodia from what I understand, Concho, etc.) is that grasping them at any point along their body most always elicits a strike and musk response......but if you immediately place the snake back into it's cage and present food, they will...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Massive schools of fish in 4MR

I was out at 4MR today at low tide and saw two things that I had never seen before. 1st - fishing at the sewage outflow all of a sudden gizzard shad started to explode out of the water in all directions. It looked like salmon trying to jump a waterfall. Then as soon as it started, they all vanished. I can confirm they are gizzards as I saw one foul hooked yesterday. 2nd - a few minutes later something strange popped up out of...
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Saturday, 29 September 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Any Day Now.....

I am going to hit dogue, pohick and pomonkey in the am. I will let you know how it wentOn Friday, September 28, 2012, HeaveToo wrote: I am guessing that this rain will blow out the river for this weekend.  I was thinking about chasing some stripers at Gravelly Point on Sunday too.  I wonder if it will be poor conditions. -- http://www.tpfr.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin Night Fishing

Thats a largemouth bass and a nice channel catfish. On Sep 28, 11:45 pm, Senor_denito <feliciano....@gmail.com> wrote: > Fished the tidal basin at night this week.  Ran into this channel catfish > who forced me to palm my reel the other night.  Also ran into this > smallmouth bass who took me by surprise and gave me a nice run. > > So far I'm loving it out here > >  IMG_20120928_215729.jpg >...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin Night Fishing

Very cool shot with the monument in the background. I've always heard great things about night fishing but have always been afraid to try it, especially with fly equipment. Great fish! On Sep 28, 11:45 pm, Senor_denito <feliciano....@gmail.com> wrote: > Fished the tidal basin at night this week.  Ran into this channel catfish > who forced me to palm my reel the other night.  Also ran into this >...
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Personal "bests"

Ha, Rob, you got it. It looked like a just finished teaching a preteen girl arts and craft class.On Friday, September 28, 2012 8:06:33 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:Nice baby shad pictured.  Did the scales come off on your hand like glitter? Sent from my iPodOn Sep 28, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Jeff Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:Went out to the Potomac today just up river of Chain Bridge (I call it the landing pad)...
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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} I'm new here

Welcome to the group!  Refreshing to see someone write The Bronx.  Thought I was the only one down here.  Where’d you move from?  Guessing you fished often from City Island/Orchard if you’re a tin/plug fisherman in the Bx.I live a couple of minutes from the Tidal Basin.  I usually don’t get there until 6 or later...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: I'm new here

Welcome!  I'm new myself and really love this forum -- there are so great local fly fishermen in the area and they're extremely generous with their advice and help.   I fish the VA side, but the whole area has some great spots.  Just make sure you check out the fly rodders map!   Peace -- GeneOn Friday, September 28, 2012 11:37:42 PM UTC-4, Senor_denito wrote:Hey everyone I recently moved down...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Trip Report - Paradise Valley, Pray Montana

Kevin,SO glad you had a great time and while I'm happy to hear your report on Dennis, SO not surprised!!MollieOn Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:58:11 PM UTC-4, Kevin Chaney wrote: TPFRs,First I'd like to thank the fellow anglers who provided me with guide recommendations before my trip :). I was able to find an opening on short notice...
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Friday, 28 September 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Any Day Now.....

I am guessing that this rain will blow out the river for this weekend.  I was thinking about chasing some stripers at Gravelly Point on Sunday too.  I wonder if it will be poor conditions. -- http://www.tpfr.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders" group. To post to this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com. ...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Tidal Basin Night Fishing

Fished the tidal basin at night this week.  Ran into this channel catfish who forced me to palm my reel the other night.  Also ran into this smallmouth bass who took me by surprise and gave me a nice run.  So far I'm loving it out here -- http://www.tpfr.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} I'm new here

Hey everyone I recently moved down here to (Maryland, Wheaton area) and just really got into fly fishing.  I moved here from The Bronx, NY where I spin fished with plugs and tins for stripers and blues, so I am not new to Urban Angling.Anyway I left my spinning rod back in NYC and made the transition to the fly.  Its such a better experience.  I am really stoked to be out here and want to thank Trent at Orvis in...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Personal "bests"

Nice blue and channel bait.  Well, after 4 seconds out of water they're mostly just channel bait.  ;)On Friday, September 28, 2012 8:04:28 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:Went out to the Potomac today just up river of Chain Bridge (I call it the landing pad) this afternoon and managed to set a couple personal bests... Smallest fish I've ever caught (picture attached), then a striped bass which is my first from the Potomac,...
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Personal "bests"

Nice baby shad pictured.  Did the scales come off on your hand like glitter? Sent from my iPodOn Sep 28, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Jeff Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:Went out to the Potomac today just up river of Chain Bridge (I call it the landing pad) this afternoon and managed to set a couple personal bests... Smallest fish I've ever caught (picture attached), then a striped bass which is my first from the...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Personal "bests"

Went out to the Potomac today just up river of Chain Bridge (I call it the landing pad) this afternoon and managed to set a couple personal bests... Smallest fish I've ever caught (picture attached), then a striped bass which is my first from the Potomac, but also happened to be the smallest striper I've ever caught (about 6 inches). The...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Strip basket

I roll with a camelbak these days... Carries my hydration and my gear As for a stripping basket... You can make a fully functional one two bungee chords and a plastic bin from Walmart... Super cheap and totally customized for your desires... Doubles as a good way to store our stuff in the car while in transit... Honestly though, no need for a stripping basket unless you're bombing with some serious amounts of line... In Hawaii...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Trip Report - Paradise Valley, Pray Montana

Nice pics, Kevin. MT is on my "one of these days" list. -- http://www.tpfr.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders" group. To post to this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit...
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Thursday, 27 September 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Trip Report - Paradise Valley, Pray Montana

TPFRs,First I'd like to thank the fellow anglers who provided me with guide recommendations before my trip :). I was able to find an opening on short notice with Dennis Alverson (Thanks for the info Mollie!), a 5th generation Montanan, who lives and guides(fly-fishing and elk-hunting) in the Livingston area. Before I made my way to Chico...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Accotink & Holmes run trout

Eric,The TU Northern VA Chapter might post a call out for volunteers to help stock Accotink and Holmes, late October usually.  I was itching to trout fish all Summer and finally drove up to Hagerstown MD to try Beaver Creek. From Alexandria, it's 80 miles.  It's a limestone spring-fed creek.  Not as good as Mossy Creek, but I enjoy it.  Beaver Creek Fly Shop can help you out with cressbug and scud nymph patterns...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Strip basket

I've had the LL Bean waist pack for over a year and love it.  I put it through some water tests and it's very dunkable.  Why Simm's changed their design in favor of a "splashproof" one is anyone's guess.  I wish Bean would come out with some belt accessories though, like a wading staff holster.   I have the William Joseph belt/stripping basket and that's a winner too.  On Thursday, September 27, 2012...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Strip basket

Try the LL Bean waterproof fannie pack. After being thoroughly dissapointed with the Simms "waterproof" pack, I found LL Bean's model and havent looked back since. Totally waterproof.  On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:16:47 PM UTC-4, Richard wrote:I have been looking to buy strip basket but I don't really want to bring too much stuff – rod, reels, fly boxes, basket, net, and more when you are going to hike a long trail....
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Accotink & Holmes run trout

Does anyone know when Back Creek is stocked?  Sorry for the side note.  That is just a pretty cool river to fish. On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Eric Kruel <ekruel17@gmail.com> wrote: I assumed it was stocked on Oct. 1st because the DGIF site says trout licenses are required on those waters from Oct. 1st - June 15th.  The site does not have the 2012 stocking schedule on the site right now, but I was...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Accotink & Holmes run trout

I assumed it was stocked on Oct. 1st because the DGIF site says trout licenses are required on those waters from Oct. 1st - June 15th.  The site does not have the 2012 stocking schedule on the site right now, but I was able to find one from 2011 and it was on Oct 21st when they stocked it last year.On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:03:05 PM UTC-4, Eric Kruel wrote:I am pretty excited about trout fishing this year, since it...
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Wednesday, 26 September 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Strip basket

I'll second the note on fanny and sling packs tendency to hit the water.  On that note however, I have a sling, I absolutely love it, and I can't imagine any other pack working any better.  When wading deep I just have to remind myself to cinch it a little tighter, or else slide it higher on my shoulder.  In fact, I've been wading up to my upper chest at Riverbend (not recommended btw) with the sling pack rotated...
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Accotink & Holmes run trout

I have never seen them stocked on Oct 1.  Seems like around the 3rd week of the month is more common.  Lower water temps and generally better levels.--- On Wed, 9/26/12, Scott Jones <scjones18@gmail.com> wrote:From: Scott Jones <scjones18@gmail.com>Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Accotink & Holmes run troutTo: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.comDate: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 9:43...
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Accotink & Holmes run trout

Is Holmes for sure being stocked October 1? I thought they weren't stocking until later in the month. -- http://www.tpfr.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders" group. To post to this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tidal-potomac-fly-rodders+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view...
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Strip basket

Just two cents real quick on fanny packs/sling packs/stripping baskets if you've not had any experience with them as yet.   1. I'm short. I'm 5'7" (Maybe 5'7.5" in my wading boots) and both the Orvis sling packs and more obviously all iterations of the Simms fanny packs I have tried got absolutely soaked when I absentmindedly got in a little too deep. Chest packs and shorty vests are my only real options....
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