Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders

Saturday, 30 June 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin Outing - Friday June 29

How did you do?

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:09:26 PM UTC-4, Paul Kalajainen wrote:

Hello TPFRs,

I'm taking off of work early on Friday and heading over to the Tidal Basin. High tide is at 5pm, so I'm planning to be there a little before (3:30 or 4:00) so I can catch the tide rushing into the basin and then again on the way out. I've never been there before, so I'd love some company/advice. It's supposed to be pretty hot, but I'm hoping it will be a good afternoon anyway. Anyone interested in joining or sending me off with some tips?

Thanks!
Paul

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Trout Fishing on the Yellow-Breeches

TU's On the Rise did an episode recently featuring Tom on the Yellow Breeches.
http://troutunlimitedblog.com/on-the-rise-goes-to-pa-spring-creeks-this-week/

I watched it on TV but can't find it online.

Did Tom help you with Czech nymphing?

Cheers, TSH

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Bonefishing in Belize

sounds like a great trip, Russell.

I've heard great things re Belize, also Costa Rica.

u use an 8 wt for the bones?

Continued tight lines.

Nixie

On Friday, June 29, 2012 1:38:56 PM UTC-4, Russell Smith wrote:

All,

I just returned from a trip to Belize which I enjoyed. We caught a ton of bonefish. A few folks on the trip caught tarpon or permit, but no one achieved the Gran Slam. (Although a gentlemen in the previous group at El Pescador did get the GS the day we arrived.)

A few pictures are attached. Few notes from the trip:

-- We stayed at El Pescador, on Ambergris Cay. The first couple pictures show the ocean from the small plane we took from Belize City to San Pedro, near Ambergris Cay.

-- The guides really knew their way around the Cay and surrounding islands. If we wanted to search for tarpon, they found 'em.

-- We caught plenty of bonefish. In general, they were more plentiful, but smaller, than the ones in the Bahamas -- one to three pounds. But they still put up a solid fight.

-- Several tarpon were hooked by people in the group, but only 2-3 landed.

-- Few permit were hooked, and only two were landed. Yours truly did not hook or land a tarpon or permit. I need to massively improve my casting skills before going after them again.

Of course, I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Best,
Russell Smith

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tidal Basin Fly Fishing

Matt,
There is no rules set in stone for changing flies. When I would guide I would often look at the water, the conditions, and the area I am covering to make that determination.

Say I am fishing an area with current, large rocks, and medium depth on a smallmouth stream. I may start by fishing the same streamer that I used near the head of the pool. I know that this water SHOULD hold fish so if I don't get a bite I may switch flies to another pattern. If nothing bites that I will switch again quickly.

I also let the water dictate what I fish with. For example, if I am in areas where the fish may be feeding on chub minnows I will throw a Shenk's White Streamer. If I am fishing an area where there are crayfish I may switch patterns. This is not a hard fast rule though and sometimes I will change up to different patterns quickly if nothing is biting.

You may also try switching colors if you are not catching fish but believe that fish are holding that area. You may also try some poppers near the edges of cover in an attempt to get a hit or a fish. It may be a blue gill but it breaks the ice!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Tidal Basin Fly Fishing

Hi Everyone,

Went out to the Tidal Basin earlier today, on what was a beautiful morning after that crazy storm last night. I'm pretty new to the sport, and while my ambition and enthusiasm keep me going, this was my 3rd trip out without a bite. I hit the area down by the Ohio Dr. bridge with some Wooly Buggers and a Clouser Minnow, between about 6:45 and 9 am. I saw a few big fish splashing around... so I was encouraged to keep trying.

I suppose my main questions are: A.) how often should you change a fly if you're not getting a response? and B.) how long should one fish the same spot before moving?

I realize both of these could be a question of patience as well, some wisdom would be much appreciated!

Thanks everyone.

Matt

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Friday, 29 June 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SHENANDOAH RIVER RODEO COMING UP - SATURDAY JULY 14!!!!!

All:

Dan was kind enough to forward the link for the Shenandoah River Rodeo. I want all to know this is a great event. Guides donate a day float and fisherman sign up to compete in the rodeo. The 250 fee per fisherman includes the float, all festivities, camping fees, bbq, bands and banter galore.

Our group camps Friday night, we rise to compete in the rodeo on Saturday, We drift with some of the finest guides in the region, we throw flies, other guys/gals spin. We all love it. we returm to camp, eat, drink, win a raffle prize or not. We trade stories and make new fishing friends. Sunday we eat a great camp breakfast, drink strong coffee and reluctantly leave the adventure.

Smallies are the primary target, large mouth cost you penalty points (I proudly take the penalty), redeye bass deliver bonus points!

You will meet great guides, fish, eat, drink with them. You will fish with great fisherman and learn a trick or two, they too will learn, that is what makes them great, and that is what makes fishing magical; there is always more to learn.

To some it is a man's weekend, others bring wives or dates, familes are there. All are welcome and it all makes for a great weekend! Best of all it supports the Shenandoah and Potomac riverkeepers, great people doing great work!

if you can't swing the rodeo come for the festivities. Feel free to sidebar with me if you want details.

See you on the "doah"

Charlie

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On Jun 29, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Daniel Davala <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:

To all TPFRers,

I just got off the phone with TPFR member Charlie Gloeckner who reminded me of an excellent upcoming event, the SHENANDOAH RIVER RODEO! Since the ENTIRE SHENANDOAH RIVER SYSTEM empties into the Potomac at Harper's Ferry, it should go without saying that what happens there, happens here. I would like to encourage ALL TPFR members that can make it to and support this great event to please do so. Music, food, BEER, fishing, and conservation should make it and easy choice. Please mark your calendars now and plan to attend, and to those with the means please consider supporting their efforts. I am going to let Charlie chime in and let you know all of the details. Charlie, thanks again for bringing this to the attention of the club!

Dan Davala

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} SHENANDOAH RIVER RODEO COMING UP - SATURDAY JULY 14!!!!!

To all TPFRers,

I just got off the phone with TPFR member Charlie Gloeckner who reminded me of an excellent upcoming event, the SHENANDOAH RIVER RODEO! Since the ENTIRE SHENANDOAH RIVER SYSTEM empties into the Potomac at Harper's Ferry, it should go without saying that what happens there, happens here. I would like to encourage ALL TPFR members that can make it to and support this great event to please do so. Music, food, BEER, fishing, and conservation should make it and easy choice. Please mark your calendars now and plan to attend, and to those with the means please consider supporting their efforts. I am going to let Charlie chime in and let you know all of the details. Charlie, thanks again for bringing this to the attention of the club!

Dan Davala

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Hawaiian O'io

I know a couple of the members have had a chance to target the O'io (bonefish) on Oahu and wanted to share an update with everyone. I've been able to get out on Rat Island and the Triangle Reef by the airport on two separate occasions and have fished Kawaikui Beach park a few times. We've only managed to hook two bonefish, landing zero. Had a big one rip out 200 yds before it broke off on the coral heads out by the surf and another break off on bad line management (line wrapped around the reel handle).

We've been going out on good tides and have been able to see lots of tailing fish. Our first trip to Rat Island was great. I was out with Jim Nix (member) and my brother. We got there on the low tide at about 6:00 AM and as soon as we got on the reef we started seeing tails all over. After about 45 minutes the tails disappeared and then we went on the hunt. We saw a handful of fish and took a few shots with no interest. The evening low tide turned the fish on an we saw a ton fish tailing. It was a real treat for my brother who's never been bonefishing to see the amount of fish that we saw. He got the thrill of casting to tails and I know that he probably still sees them when he closes his eyes at night.

On a trip out to Triangle Reef we spent the morning spotting tails. Not a lot of sun until late morning which made things difficult. My eyes and senses were really tested and was able to start picking out fish that were leaving wakes. Later in the morning we sight fished the edges and did some blind casting into the deep water and picked up a Popio (small trevally). After lunch we paddled over to Rat Island and got into some fish. Stood in a spot where the fish were following the tide in and got one to eat. Pretty cool see these fish pick up your fly and take off. It was a short lived fight as my line got wrapped...For you kayak guys out there we had to paddle back head on into some serious trade winds. Probably two footers in the channel and constantly getting soaked. Good times! On a side note we saw a 6 foot Black Tip shark cruising the reef.

The latest outing was last night with a buddy of mine. We went out on a falling tide with gusting winds and lots of clouds and some rain. Sight fishing was difficult and even when the sun did peek out it was at an angle where the best view was directly into the wind...We were fortunate to see some tails and put some casts on them but not luck. I got a little barracuda to take the fly blind casting and my buddy hooked a large bone blind casting with a Chilli Pepper into some deeper water.

Overall, we've had plenty of chances but our hookup ratio is not great. It's grind out here but lots of fun in a beautiful place. Got a couple more weeks to go in hopes of catching a monster. Might get out in the morning as the tide looks pretty good. I've attached a few pictures.

Jason

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

I was going to head out there early in the morning tomorrow since I live 10 minutes away and before it gets too hot. Are you all on the Potomac side or are you fishing the channel between the park and the airport? I haven't not fished that area before. Thanks.

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:00:46 PM UTC-4, HeaveToo wrote:

This time of year, is it more about time of day or is it still a current effected bite?

That was priceless about the guy going after his boat.

As far as the Occoquan, there is construction going on in the back area of it so it is muddy in the back end of the river. It is yielding nothing....zip! Not even a bluegill.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly Fishing from Off Shore Boat

That's not at all the wrong boat for fly fishing. A 23 CC is ideal for fly fishing the bay. It'll get you a lot more days on the water than a smaller skiff would and you'll be more comfortable. I think the 23 Jones or Parker is probably the unofficial boat of mid atlantic to northeast fly fishing guides. I wouldn't worry about a trolling motor either. If you're careful you can come right up on breaking fish with no problem or learn to set up your drift so you intercept them. In fly fishing saltwater, boat handling becomes extremely important, learning different techniques for all the various situations you may encounter will help.

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:07:14 AM UTC-4, KC wrote:

I am a fly fisherman with a 23 foot center console boat built more for offshore fishing than inshore. This boat is not very nimble, and I am not able to get into very shallow water (I don't like to get less than 4' of water even though it drafts about 18"), and it doesn't maneuver very well (no trolling motor). I am looking for a spot on the lower or middle bay or tributaries to fly fish from this boat. Hopefully could get some topwater bites in a little deeper water. Does anyone have any suggestions for a guy who loves to fly fish but has the wrong boat for that?

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Thursday, 28 June 2012

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} lost fly box

I lost a fly box on the Rapidan in the SNP and a guy from Fredericksburg found it. He called because my phone number was on the box, we spoke, and he mailed it to me. Totally recommend you put your name & number on fly boxes.

Cheers,

-- Greg

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On Jun 28, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Rob Snowhite <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:

There is always hope.

I lost my completely loaded box of my own tied flies (probably 4-5dozen bass flies) at Chain Bridge 3 summers ago. Never found it. That is bad news.
The weekend before 9-11 my then girlfriend (now wife) and I were floating the Rappahannock. We flipped our canoe and went to an island to dry everything off. I left my olive colored vest on the island. It was full of 4-5 full boxes, tippet, leaders, split shot, thermometers (all those things that add up to be super heavy and thats why we don't wear vests anymore). I drove back to Fred Vegas the next weekend. There was on Google Maps back then. I had no idea where the island was. I rented a canoe and did the 7 hour float by myself. I recognized the rock in the middle of a chute that we hit with our boat (I was standing up and casting and the gf was supposed to be paddling and watching out for rocks, she did neither and thus we had hit the rock). I paddled over to the shore and found my vest!

Better yet, and this is when I go all sorts of random on y'all, I spent my junior year of college in Puerto Rico for a tropical ecology field lab exercise. This was back in the era of film cameras. I was shooting my old Nikon and putting shot rolls of film in my pockets. I got back to our dive hotel (iguanas in the beds, no hot water, no locks on doors, rats on the steps etc) that night and realized I'd lost a roll of film. We returned to Fred Vegas (thats Fredericksburg to the lay person) and looked up Rio Camuy parks on the internet. It was pretty basic back then, dial up and what not. I sent them a note stating the brand film, the date I lost it, and where I lost it. I had determined I lost it IN THE CAVE.

I then packed up my gear for a trip overseas for the summer. I returned a month or so later to my house in Fred Vegas and dragged my gear up to my room. Upon my desk was a roll of film and a note from a park ranger. They stated they found the film and mailed it to me.

It has one of my all time favorite photos. A buttress root that grew over/around a US National Park faucet.

After that experience, I have always kept hope in my mind that something lost can be found. If a roll of film can be returned from one of the largest underground cave systems in the world, a fly box might just be returned to you. I can also tell you that giant male iguanas like red Twizzlers and that you should not let a teetotaler botanist professor drink while away from his wife on a biology trip. That, and don't get washed over a reef of fire coral by a rogue wave.

On a side note, how was the fishing at Gravelly?

Rob Snowhite

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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:48 PM
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} lost fly box

I fished gravelly point today for the first time ever, and discovered that my fly box was not in my unzipped vest pocket when I went to change flies.
I usually don't wade so deep, and I guess the box just drifted away.
I wouldn't make a big deal of it, but my brothers gave the box to me 18 years ago. It's an olive green Orvis box with a hokey Norman Maclean quote on the back. Filled with trout flies and a bunch of saltwater deceivers and poppers.
If anyone finds it, I'm offering a case of beer in your favorite flavor.
Sentimental value mostly.
I'd love to be reunited.
Thanks much. Sorry for the sob story;)
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly Fishing With The Baby Lady

Rob,

The picture with you, your daughter, and the bass is awesome! Frame that one. Congratulations again on the Gar, that was pretty awesome as well.

-Trent

On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:31:40 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:

I took the baby lady fishing today at Four Mile Run. We fished for about half an hour. I was throwing a 9.5 foot 6wt with my own slider pattern. We worked the shores around 11am. She in back pack, me in waist high waders. It was humid, overcast, and a nice breeze to cool things off. It was high tide.

I found a few largies holding along the bank and cast out my fly. I had one chase and take a nibble at the rubber legs. A few more casts and I hooked this gem just past the rod length. As it is my new policy to not fight fish on the reel (long story, but I keep loosing the big fish that way) I stripped in the fish, took out the iPhone and snapped a picture of me and the baby lady and the fish. I think she is starting to enjoy fishing more than watching construction trucks.

She was getting antsy and I made the call to leave around 11:30. One big snakehead gingerly glided past us. It had no interest in my bass worm or slider. We went home for nap time.

I've also attached a picture of Trent Jones holding a gar I caught yesterday on the Occoquan. It took a widows web Closuer minnow. The hook never touched the mouth. The teeth got caught up in the widows web. Didn't know the fish had such sharp scales. My palm is all cut up from holding the fish. Rather slimy and stinky too.

Rob Snowhite

On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:31:40 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:

I took the baby lady fishing today at Four Mile Run. We fished for about half an hour. I was throwing a 9.5 foot 6wt with my own slider pattern. We worked the shores around 11am. She in back pack, me in waist high waders. It was humid, overcast, and a nice breeze to cool things off. It was high tide.

I found a few largies holding along the bank and cast out my fly. I had one chase and take a nibble at the rubber legs. A few more casts and I hooked this gem just past the rod length. As it is my new policy to not fight fish on the reel (long story, but I keep loosing the big fish that way) I stripped in the fish, took out the iPhone and snapped a picture of me and the baby lady and the fish. I think she is starting to enjoy fishing more than watching construction trucks.

She was getting antsy and I made the call to leave around 11:30. One big snakehead gingerly glided past us. It had no interest in my bass worm or slider. We went home for nap time.

I've also attached a picture of Trent Jones holding a gar I caught yesterday on the Occoquan. It took a widows web Closuer minnow. The hook never touched the mouth. The teeth got caught up in the widows web. Didn't know the fish had such sharp scales. My palm is all cut up from holding the fish. Rather slimy and stinky too.

Rob Snowhite

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} lost fly box

There is always hope.

I lost my completely loaded box of my own tied flies (probably 4-5dozen bass flies) at Chain Bridge 3 summers ago. Never found it. That is bad news.

The weekend before 9-11 my then girlfriend (now wife) and I were floating the Rappahannock. We flipped our canoe and went to an island to dry everything off. I left my olive colored vest on the island. It was full of 4-5 full boxes, tippet, leaders, split shot, thermometers (all those things that add up to be super heavy and thats why we don't wear vests anymore). I drove back to Fred Vegas the next weekend. There was on Google Maps back then. I had no idea where the island was. I rented a canoe and did the 7 hour float by myself. I recognized the rock in the middle of a chute that we hit with our boat (I was standing up and casting and the gf was supposed to be paddling and watching out for rocks, she did neither and thus we had hit the rock). I paddled over to the shore and found my vest!

Better yet, and this is when I go all sorts of random on y'all, I spent my junior year of college in Puerto Rico for a tropical ecology field lab exercise. This was back in the era of film cameras. I was shooting my old Nikon and putting shot rolls of film in my pockets. I got back to our dive hotel (iguanas in the beds, no hot water, no locks on doors, rats on the steps etc) that night and realized I'd lost a roll of film. We returned to Fred Vegas (thats Fredericksburg to the lay person) and looked up Rio Camuy parks on the internet. It was pretty basic back then, dial up and what not. I sent them a note stating the brand film, the date I lost it, and where I lost it. I had determined I lost it IN THE CAVE.

I then packed up my gear for a trip overseas for the summer. I returned a month or so later to my house in Fred Vegas and dragged my gear up to my room. Upon my desk was a roll of film and a note from a park ranger. They stated they found the film and mailed it to me.

It has one of my all time favorite photos. A buttress root that grew over/around a US National Park faucet.

After that experience, I have always kept hope in my mind that something lost can be found. If a roll of film can be returned from one of the largest underground cave systems in the world, a fly box might just be returned to you. I can also tell you that giant male iguanas like red Twizzlers and that you should not let a teetotaler botanist professor drink while away from his wife on a biology trip. That, and don't get washed over a reef of fire coral by a rogue wave.

On a side note, how was the fishing at Gravelly?

Rob Snowhite

From: jackm <jmandeldesign@gmail.com>
To: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:48 PM
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} lost fly box

I fished gravelly point today for the first time ever, and discovered that my fly box was not in my unzipped vest pocket when I went to change flies.

I usually don't wade so deep, and I guess the box just drifted away.

I wouldn't make a big deal of it, but my brothers gave the box to me 18 years ago. It's an olive green Orvis box with a hokey Norman Maclean quote on the back. Filled with trout flies and a bunch of saltwater deceivers and poppers.

If anyone finds it, I'm offering a case of beer in your favorite flavor.

Sentimental value mostly.

I'd love to be reunited.

Thanks much. Sorry for the sob story;)

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} lost fly box

Hope you find it. I’ve been in your shoes before. My first box from my dad, I almost lost. That poor guy in one of those pictures swimming after his boat, was me on the Shenandoah swimming after that box with at least 100 dry flies in it. I recovered it about .25 mile down river. Best of luck to finding it.

Danny Barrett

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(540)222-8064

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I fished gravelly point today for the first time ever, and discovered that my fly box was not in my unzipped vest pocket when I went to change flies.

I usually don't wade so deep, and I guess the box just drifted away.

If anyone finds it, I'm offering a case of beer in your favorite flavor.

Sentimental value mostly.

I'd love to be reunited.

Thanks much. Sorry for the sob story;)

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} lost fly box

I fished gravelly point today for the first time ever, and discovered that my fly box was not in my unzipped vest pocket when I went to change flies.

I usually don't wade so deep, and I guess the box just drifted away.

If anyone finds it, I'm offering a case of beer in your favorite flavor.

Sentimental value mostly.

I'd love to be reunited.

Thanks much. Sorry for the sob story;)

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

This time of year, is it more about time of day or is it still a current effected bite?

That was priceless about the guy going after his boat.

As far as the Occoquan, there is construction going on in the back area of it so it is muddy in the back end of the river. It is yielding nothing....zip! Not even a bluegill.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} PRSC June 27 Meeting Features Boat Night at Riverbend Park

I'm glad it all went well......nice pics. I was in hot Menphis on business. At least I got some good BBQ!

Ernie

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

Good to know. I was planning on going to chainbridge today after work but now I think I'l go to Gravelly instead.

Aaron

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

Stripers were blitzing bait all over the place last night. Emmet and I fished 5:30-8:30. Saw a rabbit come down from the airport side to take a drink. It took off before we could inquire about Peanut. It was a rather large rabbit, possibly lost from an airplane like Peanut. 1" Clouser minnnows and damsel nymphs brought the fish in.

I'll wet wade if I'm going straight home to a shower. If not, I'll put up with standing in swampy waders.

Rob Snowhite

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

This time of year, do you normally or ever wet wade there?

Aaron

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New River/fishing around Roanoke?

I'm from Roanoke and I grew up fishing the Roanoke, New, and James on
a regular basis. If you're looking for a float trip then you might
consider checking out the Pembroke area of the New. There are a few
places there where you can rent (I'd recomend Tangent Outdoors) and
they can set up the shuttle for you. There are several different
stretches you can hit and if you're short on time then I'd say take
the Pembroke to Ripplemeade (vs Bluff City) bc it is shorter. Then I'd
head over to the Cascades (Little Stoney Creek) and fish for native
brookies and wild bows. The water is freezing and the fish receive
little pressure. They are a lot of fun on a light stick. Or if you
want to try for some larger trout, head over to Big Stoney (a couple
miles further down 460, but on your way back from the Walker's Creek
area) and there are wild browns towards the top end of that and some
hold over bows.

If your bound to Roanoke, there are several places where you can fish
in Salem. Green Hill park has a delayed harvest area (probably picked
clean now and it's too hot for trout in the river now anyway) where
you should be able to find some very smart smallies and plenty of dumb
sunfish. There are several other areas in Salem where you can fish,
just follow the road next to the river and try a few.

Hope that helps,

Michael

On Jun 28, 9:26 am, Dalton Terrell <daltonbterr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just fished the New River June 14-16 and did pretty well. We camped in
> Piney Creek, NC, which is just upstream of the confluence on the South
> Fork. I wade fished the main stem at Fries, VA two of the afternoons,
> floated the South Fork one day and floated the stretch between Independence
> and Fries one morning. The best stretch by far was the float between
> Independence and Fries, this yielded a few 12-13" fish and a 15" fish.
> These are all spots that are ~2 hours or so driving from Roanoke, and you
> will need a shuttle service and kayak rental, the only place I know that is
> around good fishing is around Sparta, NC (do a google for canoeing the
> new--BTW, if you like to have a few soda pops, don't stay at their
> campground). I wish I could help you on more details, but pick up a
> Virginia Gazette or the National Geographic map of the New River for boat
> ramp locations (as far as I know Google maps doesn't have this yet).
>
> Another option is the Roanoke River; I had a high school friend who went to
> college in Roanoke and he always talked about wade fishing the Roanoke
> River but I never made it up to fish there. 3
>
> Dalton
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:10:40 AM UTC-4, peter odell wrote:
>
> > I'm heading down there for a couple of days, and have always wanted to
> > fish the New RIver. I'm inclined to rent a kayak and skip a guide, but
> > could change my mind if anyone knows any really good (and mellow) guides.
> > Is there other good lakes/streams around here?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

This time of year, do you normally or ever wet wade there?

Aaron

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

I caught them all on a 2/0 olive and white clouser. I fished from 645-745, the fishing trailed off some after about 730.

To be honest on weekday mornings I get it to myself more often than not.

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:43:46 AM UTC-4, Adam Soller wrote:

I was on the water coaching out of the Alexandria boathouse this
morning - great time to be on the water.

Hope to make it out tomorrow.

What time were you down there?

On Jun 28, 9:55 am, Howard A <howard_abramow...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I went to gravelly this morning before work to fish the outgoing tide.
> Nobody was there and stripers were breaking the surface. I caught over a
> dozen in the 8-12" range and this one in the picture which was more like
> 16". The second picture is a little tough to make out, but it's a guy
> swimming after his bass boat, which got away from him on the launch. I
> watched long enough to make sure he got to it safely. I shouldn't make too
> much fun, as I had a similar experience with a shoe not too long ago.
>
> Howard
>
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: gravelly

I was on the water coaching out of the Alexandria boathouse this
morning - great time to be on the water.

Hope to make it out tomorrow.

What time were you down there?

On Jun 28, 9:55 am, Howard A <howard_abramow...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I went to gravelly this morning before work to fish the outgoing tide.
> Nobody was there and stripers were breaking the surface. I caught over a
> dozen in the 8-12" range and this one in the picture which was more like
> 16". The second picture is a little tough to make out, but it's a guy
> swimming after his bass boat, which got away from him on the launch. I
> watched long enough to make sure he got to it safely. I shouldn't make too
> much fun, as I had a similar experience with a shoe not too long ago.
>
> Howard
>
> P1040646.JPG
> 125KViewDownload
>
> P1040649.JPG
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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} gravelly

Love it when you get the place all to yourself. A rare occurrence!

What’d the big guy bite on?

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} gravelly

I went to gravelly this morning before work to fish the outgoing tide. Nobody was there and stripers were breaking the surface. I caught over a dozen in the 8-12" range and this one in the picture which was more like 16". The second picture is a little tough to make out, but it's a guy swimming after his bass boat, which got away from him on the launch. I watched long enough to make sure he got to it safely. I shouldn't make too much fun, as I had a similar experience with a shoe not too long ago.

Howard

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} PRSC June 27 Meeting Features Boat Night at Riverbend Park

It was great to see quite a few of you at the PRSC Boat Night last night, as well as the many fine members of that group. We had about 10 TPFRers attend, a few of whom are members of both groups. Many great boats were on display and it was cool to see and hear every one's passion about their custom rigs. VA and I both brought our inflatables to show off and I got to put fly rods in a few new hands. MANY THANKS TO OUR GRACIOUS HOSTS, Potomac River Smallmouth Club for providing all of the food and for putting on this great event. I look forward to the next one!

Dan Davala

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Davala <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:

SUPER EXCITED to see everyone at the Potomac River Smallmouth Club "Boat Night" this evening at Riverbend Park! While the initial notice went out as PRSC "members only", know that TPFR is invited along as guests, so don't let that stand in the way! Burgers and Dogs will be provided. We could still use an extra grill if possible. I will be there with Melody and the kids, and I will provide walk up casting instruction to all who are interested. I plan to bring a single hand rod and a double hand outfit or two as well. Additionally, I will have my inflatable kayak on display and available if anyone wants to take it for a spin. This is a VERY COOL event, so I truly hope a lot of TPFRers can make it. See you all there!

Dan Davala

Additional details are here: http://www.prsc.org/

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:18 PM, scott wilber <wswilber@verizon.net> wrote:

Dan,

I do not have a portable grill, but can go out early to assist any others who volunteer.

Scott Wilber

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To all,

Since the PRSC is putting this event on and has even graciously offered to feed us burgers and dogs, I'd like to solicit from our membership someone willing to bring a grill and help with the cooking duties. Charcoal or propane is fine so long as it is transportable. The volume of meat being grilled is a bit much to rely on the stationary grills at Riverbend park which is why we need another reliable cooking surface. Please respond to this thread and this request if you are willing to bring a grill and do a little flipping. Thanks in advance!

Dan Davala

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Daniel Davala <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the reminder Ernie! I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE TPFR members to attend this event. I will certainly be there with my inflatable kayak and I'd love to see many others there as well. Additionally, myself and several of the other casting instructors from the club will be there giving all sorts of casting lessons, tips, and pointers for FREE! Count on a few Two-Handed rods in action as well. Please take a moment and mark this event on your calendars so you can plan to be there. I'll likely take the whole day off and get there early to fish a bit before the festivities. Looking forward to a BIG turnout of TPFRers this year at the PRSC Boat Night. See you all there!

Dan Davala

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Ernie <ernierojas@verizon.net> wrote:

This meeting of the Potomac River Smallmouth Club will be devoted to Boat Night.

This annual member-only event typically features an example of every type of boat used for river smallmouth fishing, from jet boats to pontoons, canoes and kayaks. For the second year, the event will be right on the water at Riverbend Park in Great Falls, VA, offering the opportunity to see boats closer to their natural habitat and the potential to take a paddle or ride. This is a great opportunity examine a variety of different types and models of boats, see how they are outfitted, and talk to the owners.

The event will start at 6:00 PM and we'll be grilling hamburgers, so come hungry.

Ernie

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing near Berkeley Springs, WV

Guys,

I am always glad to see new friendships emerge and old ones reconnected through TPFR, but please keep the personal back and forth commentary to a minimum on the forum since there are over 840 registered users and many more reading. Still, glad to see you found each other again here, happy fishing!

Dan Davala

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:15:34 AM UTC-4, Chuq Yang wrote:

Dude! totally! How's it going? Yeah I remember you and your wife. Yeah I'll keep you in mind. Going to be quite hot this weekend, so I might head out to Shenandoah for a hike (might take my rod).

Good to see you too.

Chuq

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:21:05 PM UTC-4, charlie wrote:
Hey Chuq, Long time no see. Do you remember us from Sokia and Matt's BBQ? Me and the wifey go fishing all the time. Let me know if you want to go with us sometime. Check out the pic of one of the smallies I caught 15 mins away from my house yesterday.

-Charlie

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Chuq Yang <chuqyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Tim,
Thanks for the tip. I was able to easily find the parking area you mentioned. The water was almost HOT there. I stayed pretty close to the waterfall since I only had a few hours before we caught the Avengers at Star Theater. The only thing I managed to catch was this redbreast sunfish on a wooly bugger. It put up quite a fight though! I'm definitely going to go back there and probably wet wade instead. It was way too hot for waders.

I also probably could have started fishing before 4PM, but I was glad to be out.

Chuq

On Friday, June 22, 2012 6:18:21 PM UTC-4, Tim M wrote:

The cacapon and patomac are both easily wade friendly there. A great place to start is to park at the great cacapon parking ramp off route 9. Its about four miles north of berkeley springs. When your heading north away from town the access road is on your left about 200 yards before crossing the cacapon. There is a small waterfall right by the parking area and usually provides good smallmouth action. If you head east about 100 yards down is a railroad bridge that has a large log jamb and is also a good spot. Immediately past it is the mouth and the patomac and is a good spot for smallies walleye and catfish. I've never waded north from that point but there are good spots when heading south. If you cross the river make sure to have a walking stick because there are some deep holes over 10 feet. Head south away from the mouth and you can cross in a much safer spot. You will know it by the rocks that go most of the way across. It is slippery due to the algae growth so watch your footing.

If you venture south into virginia on 522 there is houge creek which is small but another good spot. Check out the virginia wildlife website for access and parking instructions. It runs thru a private farm that has an agreement with them to grant access in exchange for stocking rainbows during trout season. Its a little to get to the parking area. Good luck

On Jun 22, 2012 12:17 PM, "Chuq Yang" <chuqyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Howdy fellow fishermen,
I'm pretty new to the group, but thought I'd hit you guys (and gals) up for some tips. I'm heading up to the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia for the weekend (gf's brother has a cabin up there). I know the Cacapon and Potomac are up there, but does anyone know of a stream that a noob can wade easily? I was thinking of going for some smallies, but I'm not too familiar with good wading spots up around there. Hopefully someone knows of a good area. Any tips are appreciated.

TIA,

Chuq

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New River/fishing around Roanoke?

I just fished the New River June 14-16 and did pretty well. We camped in Piney Creek, NC, which is just upstream of the confluence on the South Fork. I wade fished the main stem at Fries, VA two of the afternoons, floated the South Fork one day and floated the stretch between Independence and Fries one morning. The best stretch by far was the float between Independence and Fries, this yielded a few 12-13" fish and a 15" fish. These are all spots that are ~2 hours or so driving from Roanoke, and you will need a shuttle service and kayak rental, the only place I know that is around good fishing is around Sparta, NC (do a google for canoeing the new--BTW, if you like to have a few soda pops, don't stay at their campground). I wish I could help you on more details, but pick up a Virginia Gazette or the National Geographic map of the New River for boat ramp locations (as far as I know Google maps doesn't have this yet).

Another option is the Roanoke River; I had a high school friend who went to college in Roanoke and he always talked about wade fishing the Roanoke River but I never made it up to fish there. 3

Dalton

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:10:40 AM UTC-4, peter odell wrote:

I'm heading down there for a couple of days, and have always wanted to fish the New RIver. I'm inclined to rent a kayak and skip a guide, but could change my mind if anyone knows any really good (and mellow) guides. Is there other good lakes/streams around here?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing near Berkeley Springs, WV

And nice fish! Where do you guys live (roughly)?

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:15:34 AM UTC-4, Chuq Yang wrote:

Dude! totally! How's it going? Yeah I remember you and your wife. Yeah I'll keep you in mind. Going to be quite hot this weekend, so I might head out to Shenandoah for a hike (might take my rod).

Good to see you too.

Chuq

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:21:05 PM UTC-4, charlie wrote:
Hey Chuq, Long time no see. Do you remember us from Sokia and Matt's BBQ? Me and the wifey go fishing all the time. Let me know if you want to go with us sometime. Check out the pic of one of the smallies I caught 15 mins away from my house yesterday.

-Charlie

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Chuq Yang <chuqyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Tim,
Thanks for the tip. I was able to easily find the parking area you mentioned. The water was almost HOT there. I stayed pretty close to the waterfall since I only had a few hours before we caught the Avengers at Star Theater. The only thing I managed to catch was this redbreast sunfish on a wooly bugger. It put up quite a fight though! I'm definitely going to go back there and probably wet wade instead. It was way too hot for waders.

I also probably could have started fishing before 4PM, but I was glad to be out.

Chuq

On Friday, June 22, 2012 6:18:21 PM UTC-4, Tim M wrote:

The cacapon and patomac are both easily wade friendly there. A great place to start is to park at the great cacapon parking ramp off route 9. Its about four miles north of berkeley springs. When your heading north away from town the access road is on your left about 200 yards before crossing the cacapon. There is a small waterfall right by the parking area and usually provides good smallmouth action. If you head east about 100 yards down is a railroad bridge that has a large log jamb and is also a good spot. Immediately past it is the mouth and the patomac and is a good spot for smallies walleye and catfish. I've never waded north from that point but there are good spots when heading south. If you cross the river make sure to have a walking stick because there are some deep holes over 10 feet. Head south away from the mouth and you can cross in a much safer spot. You will know it by the rocks that go most of the way across. It is slippery due to the algae growth so watch your footing.

If you venture south into virginia on 522 there is houge creek which is small but another good spot. Check out the virginia wildlife website for access and parking instructions. It runs thru a private farm that has an agreement with them to grant access in exchange for stocking rainbows during trout season. Its a little to get to the parking area. Good luck

On Jun 22, 2012 12:17 PM, "Chuq Yang" <chuqyang@gmail.com> wrote:
Howdy fellow fishermen,
I'm pretty new to the group, but thought I'd hit you guys (and gals) up for some tips. I'm heading up to the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia for the weekend (gf's brother has a cabin up there). I know the Cacapon and Potomac are up there, but does anyone know of a stream that a noob can wade easily? I was thinking of going for some smallies, but I'm not too familiar with good wading spots up around there. Hopefully someone knows of a good area. Any tips are appreciated.

TIA,

Chuq

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