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Monday, 31 July 2017

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Patagonia guide

I was just down there myself, and unfortunately I was unable to fish because the weather conspired against me. However, the guide I settled on and booked after some research was Tres Rios Fishing Lodge just outside of Puerto Varas. He's an American who has lived in Chile for a long time and didn't ask for a deposit in advance (and therefore keep my money for no services), but there is a run of king salmon in the Rio Petrohue as well as big browns. Another guy that is down there is Jack Trout, but if you do research on him on the internet, it sounds like some people have been burned by his associates in Chile. Hope that helps.

http://www.tresrioslodge.com/

Bobby

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 4:32:48 PM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:

Sooo....there's a chance that I might be in Patagonia with my wife and her family sometime around late February or March of next year. Plans are still very fluid, but it sounds like we could be traveling between Santiago and Buenos Aires over a 2-week period.

If this ends up happening, 4-6 of us would like to spend a few days (like 2-3 days) fishing. Does anyone have experience with guides in that general area? A lot of the lodges that we've looked at require a week stay (and are outrageously expensive). Ideally we'd like to just hire a guide or two (depending on how many folks want to fish) to take us out for the day.

Another option would be to go full DIY - has anyone done that?

Thanks, in advance.

--Scott

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Bobby, Eric:

That is great advice.

Many thanks. I'll talk to the shops and see what is fishing best.

Art

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Art - Used to live in Cincinnati for a few years after college. The Little Miami River (LMR) is only a 15 min drive from the center of Cincinnati (located on east side) and offers some great fishing for Smallies, Hybrids, White Bass and some other species. One of the better spots I used to go to was just south of the 125 bridge (Beechmont Ave). You can walk along the shore and wade at certain points. Key in on the riffles and fish tight to rocks if you're looking for big Hybrids. There are a number of other easy access points all along the LMR if you look on google maps. You could also rent a kayak from one of the local companies and float a good section of the river.

Delamere and Hopkins is the local fly fishing shop and they'll be able to provide you with a ton of helpful information. Hope this helps.

Eric

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 12:57:31 AM UTC-4, Bobby Davis wrote:

Art,
Call the Guys at Mad River Outfitters in Columbus. There is actually some pretty damn good pike fishing in Ohio, just saying.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 4:41:13 PM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:
Know nothing about fishing there so need some help. Looking online one shop has guides for fishing for smallmouth in drift boats.

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Would you really spend money on a guide to fish near Cincinnati?

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:01:25 AM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:
Will be in Cincinnati in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone has any advice on fishing/guides, etc., either cold or warm water.
Appreciate any help.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Patagonia guide

Sooo....there's a chance that I might be in Patagonia with my wife and her family sometime around late February or March of next year. Plans are still very fluid, but it sounds like we could be traveling between Santiago and Buenos Aires over a 2-week period.

If this ends up happening, 4-6 of us would like to spend a few days (like 2-3 days) fishing. Does anyone have experience with guides in that general area? A lot of the lodges that we've looked at require a week stay (and are outrageously expensive). Ideally we'd like to just hire a guide or two (depending on how many folks want to fish) to take us out for the day.

Another option would be to go full DIY - has anyone done that?

Thanks, in advance.

--Scott

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

Ended up at Mirror Lake. I have to say I've had more solitude during the shad run on the Potomac than I did at this lake. However, everyone was really laid back and I have never seen trout attack a foam ant as aggressively as a bass on the top water bite. Numerous fish going airborne.

I lived in Colorado for 10 years and I have never seen so many people in a national forest at one time. Was funny, on the drive up you could smell the pines and on the drive out all you could smell was all the camp fires.

Thanks for all the advice guys.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Delamere and Hopkins is the local fly fishing shop and they'll be able to provide you with a ton of helpful information. Hope this helps.

Eric

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 12:57:31 AM UTC-4, Bobby Davis wrote:

Art,
Call the Guys at Mad River Outfitters in Columbus. There is actually some pretty damn good pike fishing in Ohio, just saying.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 4:41:13 PM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:
Know nothing about fishing there so need some help. Looking online one shop has guides for fishing for smallmouth in drift boats.

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Would you really spend money on a guide to fish near Cincinnati?

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:01:25 AM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:
Will be in Cincinnati in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone has any advice on fishing/guides, etc., either cold or warm water.
Appreciate any help.

Art

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Sunday, 30 July 2017

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Art,

Call the Guys at Mad River Outfitters in Columbus. There is actually some pretty damn good pike fishing in Ohio, just saying.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 4:41:13 PM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:

Know nothing about fishing there so need some help. Looking online one shop has guides for fishing for smallmouth in drift boats.

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Would you really spend money on a guide to fish near Cincinnati?

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:01:25 AM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:
Will be in Cincinnati in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone has any advice on fishing/guides, etc., either cold or warm water.
Appreciate any help.

Art

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4 mile run

Low tide today. Aftermath of storm. Plenty of fish. Substrate is super bright from algae being washed away. Shoreline at MtVernon took a beating. Stream bottom shifted a lot. Sand bars where there weren't any before. Log jams that weren't there prior.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 4 mile run

The water was really brown where it meets the Potomac, but it's pretty damn crystal clear around the outflow.

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 2:02:30 PM UTC-4, tsm...@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone have any news on the current state of 4 mile run? I wonder if it is a big muddy mess after all of the rain.
I see bass and NSHs every time I visit.

Also, I'm trying various streamers yet to get a solid hit.......any fly recomendations will be appreciated.
I may sneak out there at 6.
I find it challenging to wade this water but I plan to keep trying and hope to figure out the tricks of 4 mile run.
I may also get up there one evening this week.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: New Zealand South Island

Hey Greg,

Definitely willing to fill you in on my experience vancamping. Personally I think it's the best way to see the South Island. My gf and I did a couple nights at Airbnbs as well to do laundry or just have space to relax. Almost all of the kiwis we met were super friendly and our airbnbs were perfect for our needs.

My girlfriend is a near novice in regards to fly-fishing so Casey spent alot of time working with her and she improved alot as the day went on. Just let him know what both of your guy's levels of experience are.

I'll bring the book to the next beer tie and see you there.

Tight lines,

Andrew R

On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 8:54:57 AM UTC-4, Gregg DiSalvo wrote:

Evan, that's too bad that you didn't do too much fishing. My dad has the same regrets, but that's what a followup trip is for! Hope you guys do the same for your honeymoon! Thank you for the website, I've enjoyed my initial brush over and can't wait to look at it side by side with driving itinerary! I can hear it now, "Oh, my stomach hurts. give me 30 minutes to calm i down and my fly rod....Oh, we've been driving too long, lets take a quick trout hike....to stretch the legs. Oh you are tired? Take a nap, i'll fish"

Andrew, I am excited to hear you did a van camping trip! I would love to pick your brain on not just fishing, but the trip in general! We are planning on flying into Queenstown, so Casey may be on the clock shortly. Do you think he would be good with a beginner who really only has roll casting down?

I'll definitely be at the next beer tie and would love to chat and take you up on that book offer!

Thanks!!

Gregg

On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 9:32:18 AM UTC-4, Greggory DiSalvo wrote:
Okay Folks, So I am in the early stages of planning a South Island Honeymoon in December and of course would like to do a little fishing. Of course I'd love this trip to be only fishing with helicopters, backpacking, and camping, but as this is a honeymoon with somebody who only humors my addiction, I'd probably only do a one day guide and recreation DIY on the side of the road. We are doing a camper van and driving around with no destinations set in stone yet, so any recommendations would be great.

Also, as much as I like catching, I actually enjoy seeing her catch fish more. I know NZ is pretty technical and she is very much a beginner, but if there are any recommendations for place and guides that specialize in the beginner, that would be great. After all, the Trouts rec in Colorado was great for that and she scored the fish of the day!

Thanks guys,

Gregg

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4 mile run

Does anyone have any news on the current state of 4 mile run? I wonder if it is a big muddy mess after all of the rain.

I see bass and NSHs every time I visit.

Also, I'm trying various streamers yet to get a solid hit.......any fly recomendations will be appreciated.

I may sneak out there at 6.
I find it challenging to wade this water but I plan to keep trying and hope to figure out the tricks of 4 mile run.

I may also get up there one evening this week.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Sunday Forecast

anyone go down to four mile this morning?

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Saturday, 29 July 2017

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Sunday Forecast

Gene, Are you mud sliding?

Actually it was a nice day today. I wish I had gotten out.

Carl

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I agree with Carl --

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 9:17:31 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:
The higher into the watershed you go, the faster the rain will have worked its way out. Maybe brookie fishing in SNP. And if fishing doesn't work out, you can mud slide down the trails :)

Carl

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If you'll believe the weather reports for 48 hours out, Sunday looks glorious! Anyone fishing? I'm thinking it'll be high chocolate milk water across the board.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Sunday Forecast

I agree with Carl --

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 9:17:31 PM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

The higher into the watershed you go, the faster the rain will have worked its way out. Maybe brookie fishing in SNP. And if fishing doesn't work out, you can mud slide down the trails :)

Carl

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If you'll believe the weather reports for 48 hours out, Sunday looks glorious! Anyone fishing? I'm thinking it'll be high chocolate milk water across the board.

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Friday, 28 July 2017

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Sunday Forecast

The higher into the watershed you go, the faster the rain will have worked its way out. Maybe brookie fishing in SNP. And if fishing doesn't work out, you can mud slide down the trails :)

Carl

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If you'll believe the weather reports for 48 hours out, Sunday looks glorious! Anyone fishing? I'm thinking it'll be high chocolate milk water across the board.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

If you're getting in the water up there, you need waders. I would get out of my waders and think they had a leak, but it was just my skin being ice cold. Unless you are staying knee deep or less, you want waders.

The good thing about the rivers there is the access. Once you hit the forrest service boundary the rivers are mostly public access. Also, the roads run right along the river, since that's about the only place you can put a road. I would go for the Weber myself. Aim to be on the water in the afternoon after the sun has had a bit of time to warm up the bottom. I never fished the Uintas (there is a lot of good water closer) and I would think that getting into the lake would take a bit of time.

Carl

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On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure which section of the provo you are thinking about but I would want waders on the lower.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:54:10 PM UTC-4, Lane Thurgood wrote:
And if you are really pressed for time, you can go with one of the urban ponds around Salt Lake. You gotta do what you gotta do.

http://www.utahfishinginfo.com/urbanponds/

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 7 Springs PA

There are rumors that there are some good trout streams up that way, but no one will seem to let you know where they are. They are all called noseeum creek or fishless run when you talk to anyone from up there. Let us know if it works out for you. It's the right distance for a weekend trip.

Considering the distance from DC being similar I would look up toward central PA and Penns Creek or the Little Juniata. Just avoid going when Penn State has a home game. Lodging becomes a bit scarce up there.

Carl

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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 8:14 AM, James Ovelmen <jovelmen@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone stayed at and/or fished Seven Springs (http://www.7springs.com/adventures/fly-fishing/)? I am looking at places to take my Dad in the next few months and was considering this place. It is Orvis endorsed (which I have found does not necessarily mean much) and has access to many spring feed ponds and lakes and has some river access. Appreciate any info!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Rapidan Road

Thanks for the offer Danny, but I think we are gunna save Rapidan for another day! Save you the trouble!

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:31:01 PM UTC-4, Gregg DiSalvo wrote:

Hey guys, Wondering if anybody has experience driving the road leading to the rapidan after a big rain. Wondering fi I should attempt this endeavor Saturday. I have access to a car with clearance for once and figured I'd finally give this one a go. If yall expect the road to be nasty, I have plenty of other streams I like after hard rains, but would love to cross this one off.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Rapidan Road

havent fished the rap in a while. been up there after huge rains and almost got a yukon stuck. if you are not afraid of a hike. i know there are trails out there that start just past that sign that says end state road maintenance. not 100% sure how long they take to get to the river, but i know they go there.

other opition is to park down like your hiking tup to Devils Ditch. From there its only a mile or so hike along the river to get to where the rapidan road has the first pull off by the river (for those that know the rap, its where someone mounted up a ton of dirt on that trail that cuts back parallel to the rapidan road, please chime in).

i can try and mark up a google maps image if you'd like Gregg. i may happen to love the rap a lil to much lol

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Yeah, having never driven the road before, I am slightly wary. I may opt for a smaller, high grade stream if we end up going. I am always game for some fishing and hiking in the rain, but my compatriot doesn't do this type of fishing, so he may back out.

Gregg

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 3:31:01 PM UTC-4, Gregg DiSalvo wrote:
Hey guys, Wondering if anybody has experience driving the road leading to the rapidan after a big rain. Wondering fi I should attempt this endeavor Saturday. I have access to a car with clearance for once and figured I'd finally give this one a go. If yall expect the road to be nasty, I have plenty of other streams I like after hard rains, but would love to cross this one off.

Gregg

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Sunday Forecast

I don't know how fast it drops, but four Mile run is a torrent right now. Can't imagine it being fishable Sunday considering we are supposed to get more rain.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Know nothing about fishing there so need some help. Looking online one shop has guides for fishing for smallmouth in drift boats.

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Would you really spend money on a guide to fish near Cincinnati?

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:01:25 AM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:

Will be in Cincinnati in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone has any advice on fishing/guides, etc., either cold or warm water.
Appreciate any help.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

I would try fishing the tail waters of the Corps' lock and dams near Cincinnati. I believe there are facilities upstream and downstream. This is not the best time of year but there are white bass and hybrids below many of those facilities. Some have fishing platforms or wing walls you can stand on. I had great success at the RC Byrd facility upstream of Cincy with conventional gear one April. Fly gear is tricky with all the rip rap but something to at least consider.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

Not sure which section of the provo you are thinking about but I would want waders on the lower.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:54:10 PM UTC-4, Lane Thurgood wrote:

And if you are really pressed for time, you can go with one of the urban ponds around Salt Lake. You gotta do what you gotta do.

http://www.utahfishinginfo.com/urbanponds/

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

Would you really spend money on a guide to fish near Cincinnati?

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:01:25 AM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:

Will be in Cincinnati in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone has any advice on fishing/guides, etc., either cold or warm water.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

And if you are really pressed for time, you can go with one of the urban ponds around Salt Lake. You gotta do what you gotta do.

http://www.utahfishinginfo.com/urbanponds/

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

If faced with the choice of only one, I'd definitely take the 5. You'll want the bigger line in wind if you're in the Uintas. If you are fishing the rivers, you'll want the 5. The 5 just gives you more options.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 1:26:25 PM UTC-4, Aden wrote:

Ok, last question. Should I take my 3wt or 5wt

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

Ok, last question. Should I take my 3wt or 5wt

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

Thank you so much. I land at 2pm so I'd have to hustle

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Sunday Forecast

I'm thinking about heading down to 4 Mile Run on Sunday. I just got back into fishing, so I'm looking for any opportunity to practice.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 8:06:36 AM UTC-4, Tim Donaldson wrote:

If you'll believe the weather reports for 48 hours out, Sunday looks glorious! Anyone fishing? I'm thinking it'll be high chocolate milk water across the board.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

If you are fishing the Uinta lakes I mentioned, you wouldn't wade. You would generally walk the shoreline and fish to cruising fish (don't forget polarized glasses). You can also just blind cast if you see activity or just fishy looking places. In many of the lakes, the grayling and cutts are cruising around really close to shore. The tigers are often very close also, often with nose pointed toward shore--I assume for terrestrials.

If you are fishing the Provo or the Weber, well, the water is cold, no doubt about it. As a kid, I wet-waded those slippery rocks and would get out and thaw every now and then, but you can also find space on the bank. They are not big rivers, though waders would help you position yourself better. I last fished the Weber a couple of Thanksgivings ago and did not have waders. I found plenty of places to fish from the bank.

If you have the time, I'd hit those Uintas lakes and fish from shore. Beautiful country.

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 11:32:18 AM UTC-4, Aden wrote:

Is the water too cold to wet wade? I have limited bag space.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salt lake

Is the water too cold to wet wade? I have limited bag space.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Rock Creek Park Fishing for 1st Time

Went down to Rock Creek Park Thursday after work for a small hike with my fiancee, with the ulterior motive of scoping out potential fishing spots. I started at south of the P Street Bridge, and I was completely swarmed with mosquitoes. It looked like a good spot but I definitely need to bring bug spray next time. Lost some tippet and a fly; however, I ended up catching two little sunfish. I'm pretty proud since I only started fishing again for the past month. Spotted some larger LMB but didn't have the time since she was getting impatient. Unfortunately she was too far away to get a photo of the second sunfish I caught, which I swear was the size of my palm. Any spots I should check out in Rock Creek Park?

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Reliable Source for OBX Fishing Reports?

Go to the outer banks fly fishing Facebook page: Captains Sarah Gardner and husband Brian Horsley are both outstanding fly fishing guides and post reports regularly.

Carl S.

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Heading down there mid-august. Does anyone know a location where I can find reliable, up to date info on the fishing? Inshore or surf. Thanks!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

I like that!

Now it's even more complicated.

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Subject: Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

The North or South island of Cinci?

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Will be in Cincinnati in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone has any advice on fishing/guides, etc., either cold or warm water.
Appreciate any help.

Art

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cincinnati not New Zealand

The North or South island of Cinci?

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:01:25 AM UTC-4, Art Friedlander wrote:

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cincinnati not New Zealand

Will be in Cincinnati in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone has any advice on fishing/guides, etc., either cold or warm water.

Appreciate any help.

Art

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Reliable Source for OBX Fishing Reports?

TWs Bait and Tackle updates their site regularly.

From what I have heard from a few people who live there, the trout bite is the best it's been in years. The drum bite has been good as well.

Enjoy your trip.

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