Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Advice on Lake Ontario salmon guides, fishing, etc.

Thanks, Todd…

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 2:56 PM 'Todd Ringler' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

And in case it is not obvious. Jay and his guides are fantastic. I bumped into Jay last fall at Cemetery Pool and he had great advice for fishing  the high water conditions. I have also fished a few days with one of his guides, Rick Smith—also great. 

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On Aug 31, 2022, at 14:52, 'Todd Ringler' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Jay Peck does both lake-run browns on the west end tribs of Lake Ontario and salmon/steelhead on the Salmon River. Not sure of his plan for this year, but he typically starts with the browns in September and moves to the Salmon River when the steelhead enter. He has other guides working the salmon run. 

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On Aug 31, 2022, at 13:53, Peter Brookes <brookesoutdoors@gmail.com> wrote:



Thanks so much!  Very helpful!

Yeah, I'm talking about the Lake O tribs…have done a number of steelhead trips on the Lake E tribs so wanted to give the Lake O side and salmon a try…maybe even Lake-run Browns.

Since time is tight, I'm looking for a guide, who can often provide the shortest distance between your fly and the fish.

Pete

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 9:19 AM Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:

Where are you wanting to fish?  If the Salmon River, early-mid September is best if you want fresh fish and less crowds. They usually do a release labor day weekend which often triggers fish to enter the river. I would fish the douglaston that time of year.  The earlier in September you go the fewer fish will be around, but the ones that are there will be fresh and willing to actually eat a fly. Crowds will also be the most manageable.

There are usually the most fish available around columbus day but it is a circus and the fish are generally colored up and less interested in actually eating a fly. More fish will be upriver that time of year.  

If you are thinking about the western Lake O tribs, I would wait a few additional weeks as there are often not fish until later in september. Those streams are much more dependent on rain but someplace like Oak Orchard should have fish by the 3rd week of september or so (they can come earlier though)  

As far as guides, I would think about how you want to fish.  There are a lot of bad guides up there.  Personally I would find one that specializes in  swinging flies.  Greg Liu or Jay Peck would be options for the salmon river.  For the western end, you could see if Cattaraugus Creek outfitters fishes up there.  They have some great guides but are probably more steelhead focused.

Honestly, if you have done much steelhead or salmon fishing you really don't need a guide unless you want access to a drift boat for the salmon river.  

I just typed all of that and realized you may be actually asking about fishing in Lake Ontario itself and not the tribs.  If so i cant help you but summer is generally the time.  

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 10:17:28 AM UTC-4 Brookes Outdoors wrote:

I'm hoping to make my first trip this year for Lake Ontario salmon and as such I'm seeking  guide recommendations, best time of year, etc.

Appreciate any thoughts on getting me going on developing a plan...

Thanks,

Pete

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