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Thursday, 30 July 2020

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} What's happening in the duck pond?

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On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:26:37 PM UTC-4 Scott S wrote:

Looks like a grid for a body search...

But probably planting marsh grasses, as you suggest?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:16 PM 'Miles' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I was down at Long Bridge Park yesterday, next to Roaches Run - aka the Duck Pond - and I noticed whatever is going on here. Does anybody know? It's hard to see in the photo, but the stakes all have strings connecting them with shiny reflectors, probably to repel birds. The whole area is surrounded by netting in the water. There were two jon boats with people in what looked like dry suits (hot as hell day, too). My guess is they are planting marsh grasses or something similar.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} What's happening in the duck pond?

Looks like a grid for a body search...

But probably planting marsh grasses, as you suggest?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:16 PM 'Miles' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I was down at Long Bridge Park yesterday, next to Roaches Run - aka the Duck Pond - and I noticed whatever is going on here. Does anybody know? It's hard to see in the photo, but the stakes all have strings connecting them with shiny reflectors, probably to repel birds. The whole area is surrounded by netting in the water. There were two jon boats with people in what looked like dry suits (hot as hell day, too). My guess is they are planting marsh grasses or something similar.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: What's happening in the duck pond?

I'm guessing its cattails - per "Alternative 3" in this document: https://parkplanning.nps.gov/showFile.cfm?projectID=75342&MIMEType=application%252Fpdf&filename=Final%20Dominion%20DARP%5FApproved%20%281%29%2Epdf&sfid=327388

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On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:16:34 PM UTC-4, Miles wrote:

I was down at Long Bridge Park yesterday, next to Roaches Run - aka the Duck Pond - and I noticed whatever is going on here. Does anybody know? It's hard to see in the photo, but the stakes all have strings connecting them with shiny reflectors, probably to repel birds. The whole area is surrounded by netting in the water. There were two jon boats with people in what looked like dry suits (hot as hell day, too). My guess is they are planting marsh grasses or something similar.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} What's happening in the duck pond?

I was down at Long Bridge Park yesterday, next to Roaches Run - aka the Duck Pond - and I noticed whatever is going on here. Does anybody know? It's hard to see in the photo, but the stakes all have strings connecting them with shiny reflectors, probably to repel birds. The whole area is surrounded by netting in the water. There were two jon boats with people in what looked like dry suits (hot as hell day, too). My guess is they are planting marsh grasses or something similar.

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Wednesday, 29 July 2020

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Susquehanna Float....What happened to the upper potomac...

Jason,

Your not alone in noticing the deterioration of the Potomac as a smallmouth fishery. I've fished it for about a decade and typically do a half dozen trips to tribs like the mainstem, North and South Forks of the Shenandoah a year as well. It WAS different a decade ago. There are simply less smallmouth in the system for a number of reasons but namely climate change.

Recently, MD stocked 30K smallies to aide in spawn recruitment, but it won't stop the effects of climate change that has produced more high water events in the last few years that have resulted in dramatically lowering the fish population in the Potomac (not just smallies).

"Several consecutive years of high river flows during the spring have reduced spawning success, causing lower catch rates for anglers. Elevated spring flows experienced in 2016-2018 have resulted in consecutive years of poor recruitment and low year-class strength. While the number of larger adult smallmouth bass has remained steady, there are concerns about declining catch rates after multiple poor year-classes of young fish."

---https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/lifestyle/travel_and_outdoors/todays-sportsman-its-all-about-the-smallmouth-bass/article_724e4b03-0c69-57ee-8729-b8992408c66b.html

Furthermore, I'll bet that when you floated the Juniata the one thing that you saw quite a lot of (especially closer to the confluence of the Sus) was aquatic vegetation and including stargrass. Cast over stargrass on the Jun and you'll get bit by a juvenile during topwater season on every cast. Dead drift a hopper or popper over a deep hole and you'll move an old big smalljaw for sure...but not so on the Potomac. The successive flooding of the Potomac has not only kept the smallies from spawning very well in the last 5 years, it has also SCOURED the vegetation where smallie (and other fish eggs) get caught that become nurseries. Basically, the lower Juniata is a smallie nursery. The tribs to the Potomac are suffering from the same flooding closer to their confluences on the plains with the Potomac as well. Higher elevation areas on the North and South Fork of the Shenandoah drain quickly and gullywasher rain events do not always remove the vegetation, they also have more ledge to protect juveniles. That ledge on the forks runs perpendicular to the river across a smaller width. In addition, some smallmouth migrate (not all, not even most) during the winter a few miles and so under stress they may not be found in the same places as the previous year. They also AGE slowly... a 20" 4-5 lb smallie could be 15 - 20 years old.

When you add up the impacts of climate change and the rain events, the lack of vegetation and recruitment, length of time it takes for a smallie to reach maturity and trophy size, you can easily see it could be a DECADE before the Potomac fishes like it did a decade ago with heavy stocking (and providing the rain events don't get worse...and fat chance that won't happen).

Sadly, even the Juniata isn't free from these impacts.

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 11:16:24 PM UTC-4, Jason Hanerfeld wrote:

I've spent a bunch of time fishing different sections of Seneca Creek and the Monocacy. Have done very well there in years past (my PB smallie is from the Monocacy) but it has been very slow this year. Fished the South Fork of the Shennandoah in early June but water was way way up. Hoping to try out the north fork some time soon.

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:
From what I've read, your analysis of the upper Potomac is pretty common right now. Between floods and poor water quality, the smallie numbers are down seems to be the consensus. I personally find wading the Potomac frustrating because it is hard to find places that are safe and it's hard to cover water on foot. I feel like I spend more time trying to make sure I don't put myself in danger I hardly do any actually fishing.

Have you floated any of the Potomac tribs? I'm not sure you'd catch 25 fish in 4 miles on the tribs (I've never fished that much water at once on the tribs) but it'd be worth trying.

It sounds like the South Fork of the Shenandoah is fishing really good too and that's about 90 minutes away depending where you hit it.

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Monday, 27 July 2020

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Susquehanna Float....What happened to the upper potomac...

I've spent a bunch of time fishing different sections of Seneca Creek and the Monocacy. Have done very well there in years past (my PB smallie is from the Monocacy) but it has been very slow this year. Fished the South Fork of the Shennandoah in early June but water was way way up. Hoping to try out the north fork some time soon.

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:

From what I've read, your analysis of the upper Potomac is pretty common right now. Between floods and poor water quality, the smallie numbers are down seems to be the consensus. I personally find wading the Potomac frustrating because it is hard to find places that are safe and it's hard to cover water on foot. I feel like I spend more time trying to make sure I don't put myself in danger I hardly do any actually fishing.

Have you floated any of the Potomac tribs? I'm not sure you'd catch 25 fish in 4 miles on the tribs (I've never fished that much water at once on the tribs) but it'd be worth trying.

It sounds like the South Fork of the Shenandoah is fishing really good too and that's about 90 minutes away depending where you hit it.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Susquehanna Float....What happened to the upper potomac...

From what I've read, your analysis of the upper Potomac is pretty common right now. Between floods and poor water quality, the smallie numbers are down seems to be the consensus. I personally find wading the Potomac frustrating because it is hard to find places that are safe and it's hard to cover water on foot. I feel like I spend more time trying to make sure I don't put myself in danger I hardly do any actually fishing.

Have you floated any of the Potomac tribs? I'm not sure you'd catch 25 fish in 4 miles on the tribs (I've never fished that much water at once on the tribs) but it'd be worth trying.

It sounds like the South Fork of the Shenandoah is fishing really good too and that's about 90 minutes away depending where you hit it.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Susquehanna Float....What happened to the upper potomac...

This summer has been by far the hardest I have ever worked for smallies on the Potomac. When I was first beginning to fly fish, I would wade the river around lock 7 and always pick up a couple of decent smallmouth even though I could barely cast. Now, after about 7 years of fly experience under my belt, I have been lucky to catch 1 fish in a couple of hours of fishing in the same spot... It just seems as if the number of smallmouth in the river from great falls up to the confluence of the shennandoah have significantly diminished since ~2016.

Having said that, I have always heard great things about the Susquehanna. I decided to rent a skiff from the guys at Riverfront Campground and as per recommendations did a 6.5 on the Juniata river and took out where it converges with the Susquehanna. This river is just a better fishery than the Potomac. It seemed as if every cast there was 2-3 smallmouth chasing my fly. I must have landed 25 smallies duirng a 4.5 hour float (however, about 20 of them were less than 10 inches). Even though most of the fish were small, towards the end of the float I switched to a large articulated streamer and promptly hooked a ~17.5 inch fish dead drifting in a deep pool. Other than that fish, I caught 2 fish that were probably about 13-14 inches or so. To summarize, this fishery is absolutely full of smallmouth. When I would take a break from casting and look down into the water while drifting I would see scores of smallmouth, carp, catfish, baitfish, crayfish, etc...the place is just exploding with aquatic life.

Wanted to know if other people have been having similar experiences this summer on the upper potomac. As much as I do like catching smallies the 2 hour drive each way to the Sus is draining and would like to have some productive fishing a bit closer by.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac reports?

Camped at the Harper's Ferry adventure park this weekend and put some time in fishing while others in our group were tubing/ziplining/sleeping. Had several bites, but didn't catch anything. Probably because the fish were too small for what I was using. The variety and number of terrestrials I observed was astonishing compared with what I normally see closer to DC. If nothing else, it was fun using a bunch of larger patterns I wouldn't bother with closer to home.

Someone above questioned their own intelligence for camping in July. To any who would ponder it, I recommend getting a portable air conditioner (USB vaporator). Our nights were lovely. Nothing beats falling asleep with real running water in the background. Pure magic.

Lane

On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 9:33:34 PM UTC-4, Bill Wittig wrote:

Anyone fishing the Potomac this weekend? Taking my girls out on canoe out of Fletcher's tomorrow and wondering what to expect. Unfortunately, haven't gotten much fishing in lately.

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Sunday, 26 July 2020

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: CPR Tournament?

Caught tonight. The real is 3 1/4 inches. I have the fish at a hair over 14 inches.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 6:47 PM Marcy Brusoe <marcy.brusoe@gmail.com> wrote:

That's a 32oz Gatorade bottle for scale. Caught 7/5 on a double barrel popper.

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> On Jul 18, 2020, at 18:50, Clever Knickname <andy.rheuban@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I got 8 little ones tonight with this one being the biggest - nothing to brag about but guess I'll start with the first one posted.
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>> On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 1:57:56 PM UTC-4, Tom Steeley wrote:
>> Nothing. Caught a few late spring. Last few weeks have seen some but not aggressive like they were.
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>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 2:27 PM Andrew Sarcinello <andy...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Anybody have any catches yet? I've gone out twice but haven't found anything over 12" lately.
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>> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 4:53:08 PM UTC-4, Mike Scully wrote:
>> Anyone interested in doing a Bass CPR Tournament for the month of July on the board?
>> Prize would be bragging rights and maybe I can doctor up a trophy.
>> Rules would be simple since no money is involved.
>> Any species of bass. Scoring will be based on true length with no modifiers
>> Time frame would be from 07/01/2020 00:00 until 07/31/2020 00:00.
>> Needs to be caught on fly rod in DC, Maryland, or Virginia.
>> On this topic, post a photo of your catch with a measuring rule next to it for reference.
>> In the post state the size measured,
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Saturday, 25 July 2020

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac reports?

Fished the Potomac above Harpers Ferry this morning, got out early to beat the tubing floatillas. 5 smallies brought to hand all within the 8-10" range. All fish looked healthy, I've only recently started fishing this area and I'm much more familiar with the Shenandoah system. Are sunfish and fall fish present on the Potomac in the Harpers Ferry area? I've had a few encounters with catfish, they'll attack a black bugger or a clouser.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anyone still doing zoom tying?

I'm going to be tying all week after work getting prepped for a trip next weekend. Happy to Zoom.

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 1:36:57 PM UTC-4 dlaz...@gmail.com wrote:

been wondering the same thing.

Daniel

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:50 PM N Elgas <caca...@gmail.com> wrote:

just figured its to hot to fish

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Thursday, 23 July 2020

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Casting Church - Sun Jul 12

So we do casting church the second Sunday of every month.

However we are considering adding a second , because our monthly beer tie event is not possible with the pandemic.

Art

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:23 AM Mitchell D Fenton <mfenton1@binghamton.edu> wrote:

When will the next one be?! On the 26th? First one was awesome.

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Wednesday, 22 July 2020

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Casting Church - Sun Jul 12

When will the next one be?! On the 26th? First one was awesome.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Lots of fish, impossible spot, need help!

I'd love to hear suggestions on lakes to fish in that area if you're willing to share. I've fished many of the streams but I'm not aware of lakes worth targeting west of New Market. Thanks in advance for the insight!

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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Neil Chilson <chilson@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks, all, for the advice. I never did land a trout in that spot (although I got a big ol bluegill that I didn't even know was in there).
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> I explored a bunch of the dam made lakes in the area, some of which had decent smallmouth. So if anyone is ever in the area west of New Market and want some suggestions, let me know.
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> (Although what you should really do is talk to the guys at Mossy Creek Fly Fishing in Waynesboro, which I very stupidly did not do until the last week I was out there. Be smarter than me.)
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Lots of fish, impossible spot, need help!

Thanks, all, for the advice. I never did land a trout in that spot (although I got a big ol bluegill that I didn't even know was in there).

I explored a bunch of the dam made lakes in the area, some of which had decent smallmouth. So if anyone is ever in the area west of New Market and want some suggestions, let me know.

(Although what you should really do is talk to the guys at Mossy Creek Fly Fishing in Waynesboro, which I very stupidly did not do until the last week I was out there. Be smarter than me.)

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Tuesday, 21 July 2020

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anyone still doing zoom tying?

been wondering the same thing.

Daniel

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:50 PM N Elgas <cacapon14@gmail.com> wrote:

just figured its to hot to fish

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Anyone still doing zoom tying?

just figured its to hot to fish

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac reports?

14"! That's not too shabby!

I like to think of it more as "slow-motion partial bathing while fanning myself with a long stick."

On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 9:48:34 AM UTC-4, Kevin KB wrote:

Ok, you can question my judgement, but I was tent camping at the Rappahannock River Campground this past very hot weekend. The fishing was "ok". Went out for several 2 to 4 hour wading trips over the three days. Never got skunked, but mainly caught sunfish, but caught a good number of 8 to 10 inch smallies. I got one that was probably 14 inches. The water was really low and warm. At Fredericksburg, the USGS gauge showed the water in the 90`s and it was at least that at the campground.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 9:33 AM 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Thanks Carl

On Sunday, July 19, 2020, 12:25:15 AM EDT, Carl Z. <carl....@gmail.com> wrote:

The Virginia rivers I was thinking of were the Rapahanoch and James,

It's good to know someone was catching smallies in the Potomac.

Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:20 AM 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Not being familiar with the Virginia rivers, can you say which rivers are doing well.
Thanks
Art

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Let us know if you head up that way.

I have been hearing that the other Virginia rivers are doing well (not Shenandoah).
Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:53 AM Chris James <cja...@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ventured up to Dam 4 around Shepardstown this year? Thought it may be better way up stream for smallmouth. I hit Violettes lock a few times with not even a tug.

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Monday, 20 July 2020

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Short Notice: Need Help with Kid Fishing Clinic

Due to excessive heat and high temperatures, the kid fishing clinic has been postponed until next week.

Will share the new date once it has been rescheduled.

Please feel free to reach out directly to Kurt if you thing you will be able to assist.

Daniel

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TPFR members, do you have this Thursday morning available?
Volunteers are needed to assist with a 4MR kid fishing clinic.

The Four Mile Run Conservatory Foundation will be holding its first youth fishing clinic on Thursday, July 23 from 9-11:30 at Four Mile Run Park in Alexandria, VA. There will be 15-20 middle school age youth from Community Lodgings' summer program, most of whom have not fished before. They are using youth spin rods (5.5-foot, spin/underspin reels, with a slip bobber and artificial bait). And they will be observing strict COVID-19 protocols as issued by the City of Alexandria for recreational activities.

This fishing activity is just one component of their Nature Explorers and Restorers (NEAR) youth program. Please look at their website for more information about their work at Lower Four Mile Run. https://www.fourmilerun.org/

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Volunteers will meet at 9 AM in the 4MR Mt. Vernon Street bridge parking lot.
This is obviously an individual decision as it is not an official TPFR chapter function.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac reports?

Ok, you can question my judgement, but I was tent camping at the Rappahannock River Campground this past very hot weekend. The fishing was "ok". Went out for several 2 to 4 hour wading trips over the three days. Never got skunked, but mainly caught sunfish, but caught a good number of 8 to 10 inch smallies. I got one that was probably 14 inches. The water was really low and warm. At Fredericksburg, the USGS gauge showed the water in the 90`s and it was at least that at the campground.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 9:33 AM 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Thanks Carl

On Sunday, July 19, 2020, 12:25:15 AM EDT, Carl Z. <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

The Virginia rivers I was thinking of were the Rapahanoch and James,

It's good to know someone was catching smallies in the Potomac.

Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:20 AM 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Not being familiar with the Virginia rivers, can you say which rivers are doing well.
Thanks
Art

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 8:22:40 AM EDT, Carl Z. <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

Let us know if you head up that way.

I have been hearing that the other Virginia rivers are doing well (not Shenandoah).
Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:53 AM Chris James <cjame01@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ventured up to Dam 4 around Shepardstown this year? Thought it may be better way up stream for smallmouth. I hit Violettes lock a few times with not even a tug.

-Chris

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Short Notice: Need Help with Kid Fishing Clinic

TPFR members, do you have this Thursday morning available?

Volunteers are needed to assist with a 4MR kid fishing clinic.

The Four Mile Run Conservatory Foundation will be holding its first youth fishing clinic on Thursday, July 23 from 9-11:30 at Four Mile Run Park in Alexandria, VA. There will be 15-20 middle school age youth from Community Lodgings' summer program, most of whom have not fished before. They are using youth spin rods (5.5-foot, spin/underspin reels, with a slip bobber and artificial bait). And they will be observing strict COVID-19 protocols as issued by the City of Alexandria for recreational activities.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac reports?

Thanks Carl

On Sunday, July 19, 2020, 12:25:15 AM EDT, Carl Z. <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

The Virginia rivers I was thinking of were the Rapahanoch and James,

It's good to know someone was catching smallies in the Potomac.

Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:20 AM 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Not being familiar with the Virginia rivers, can you say which rivers are doing well.
Thanks
Art

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 8:22:40 AM EDT, Carl Z. <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

Let us know if you head up that way.

I have been hearing that the other Virginia rivers are doing well (not Shenandoah).
Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:53 AM Chris James <cjame01@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ventured up to Dam 4 around Shepardstown this year? Thought it may be better way up stream for smallmouth. I hit Violettes lock a few times with not even a tug.

-Chris

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Sunday, 19 July 2020

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac reports?

Went up to Big Eddy on the Doah just north of Harpers Ferry and all I got was a bluegill on a popper.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac reports?

I was at Weverton at the crack of dawn this morning: skunked. Water was 82F. When sun got above the trees the solar beat-down was too much and headed for home.

Mark

On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 6:16:17 PM UTC-4

I got skunked on the smallies today a

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac reports?

I got skunked on the smallies today at Riverbend (and even started fishing before 7:30). Saw three other fly casters over the course of about five hours, and only one had caught a small smallmouth (casting a clawdad with spey). Maybe they're wearing masks?

Had to switch to poppers and hit the shaded wood on the banks to save the day with a half dozen 'gills.

The water temp was like taking a bath.

Best,

Owen

On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 12:25:16 AM UTC-4, Carl wrote:

The Virginia rivers I was thinking of were the Rapahanoch and James,

It's good to know someone was catching smallies in the Potomac.

Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:20 AM 'Art Friedlander' via Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Not being familiar with the Virginia rivers, can you say which rivers are doing well.
Thanks
Art

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 8:22:40 AM EDT, Carl Z. <carl....@gmail.com> wrote:

Let us know if you head up that way.

I have been hearing that the other Virginia rivers are doing well (not Shenandoah).
Carl

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 7:53 AM Chris James <cja...@gmail.com> wrote:
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