Saturday, 27 December 2014

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re:

Are switch rods usually rated with single hand line weights or spey line weights?  When I first read the question, I assumed 8wt was for a single hand weight, but 500grains seems like a spey line weight for an 8wt.  

Does it depend on manufacturer?  I thought I saw single hand weight ratings on some switch rods.


On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

Alright. Thanks for all the info. I will have to reach out to him. I'm in northern VA for the holidays.

Dan Barrett
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On Dec 27, 2014 9:22 AM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
SWEET ROD - nice gift!  Well, we rate that rod for 500 grains for skagit, but I've cast it with more.  Key piece of data is your intention to toss some pretty good size flies.  Simply put, it takes mass to move mass, so depending on how beefy the flies are you may want to err on the slightly heavy side.  525 might be a good compromise.  

John Bilotta has pretty much every head produced for the last five years or so.  It may be in your best interest to hit him up for a lesson/ line selection session.  That way, you can get your technique right, then switch out heads in 25 grain increments until you get the feel you personally like.  Best to bring along some of your large patterns too.  Chucking yarn is a bit different than large flies.  To get the big stuff to fly, it can sometimes take an adjustment on anchor placement and tip selection.  It's amazing the impact that either can have.  Have fun in the process, you'll most likely end up with several different heads to do different work which will make for an incredibly versatile setup.

Dan Davala

On Saturday, December 27, 2014, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

It's a orvis helios 2 8 switch. Thank you so far for the input.

Dan Barrett
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On Dec 26, 2014 10:13 PM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

Dan Davala


On Friday, December 26, 2014, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:
What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:42:39 PM UTC-5, Danny Barrett wrote:

Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

Thanks,

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Alright. Thanks for all the info. I will have to reach out to him. I'm in northern VA for the holidays.

Dan Barrett
540-222-8064

On Dec 27, 2014 9:22 AM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
SWEET ROD - nice gift!  Well, we rate that rod for 500 grains for skagit, but I've cast it with more.  Key piece of data is your intention to toss some pretty good size flies.  Simply put, it takes mass to move mass, so depending on how beefy the flies are you may want to err on the slightly heavy side.  525 might be a good compromise.  

John Bilotta has pretty much every head produced for the last five years or so.  It may be in your best interest to hit him up for a lesson/ line selection session.  That way, you can get your technique right, then switch out heads in 25 grain increments until you get the feel you personally like.  Best to bring along some of your large patterns too.  Chucking yarn is a bit different than large flies.  To get the big stuff to fly, it can sometimes take an adjustment on anchor placement and tip selection.  It's amazing the impact that either can have.  Have fun in the process, you'll most likely end up with several different heads to do different work which will make for an incredibly versatile setup.

Dan Davala

On Saturday, December 27, 2014, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

It's a orvis helios 2 8 switch. Thank you so far for the input.

Dan Barrett
540-222-8064

On Dec 26, 2014 10:13 PM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

Dan Davala


On Friday, December 26, 2014, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:
What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:42:39 PM UTC-5, Danny Barrett wrote:

Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Holmes Run Tenkara

Spent a couple hours on Holmes Run this afternoon. It still smells, but for the first time in a while for me, not like skunk!

I received a Tenkara USA Iwana outfit for Christmas and was eager to try it out. Casting such a long rod (12') with overhanging branches will take getting used to, but I was able to put my Madame PMX w/ prince dropper pretty close to where I wanted much of the time. And when I got a hit, the rod had a nice bend and it was easy enough to bring in a 15" fish without a reel or stripping line. I think this rod is going to be a lot of fun, and at about 20" broken down, I'm going to have it with me more often than my others.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Nice morning

great shot... 

On Saturday, December 27, 2014 11:49:31 AM UTC-5, John wrote:
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Holmes

My son and I fished Holmes yesterday for nearly two hours and didn't get any bites. Tried streamers, nymphs but no strikes. We walked to the dam and worked our way back. Ran into another fisherman who also wasn't catching anything. Fortunately it was lovely weather, sunny and high 50s, and we lucked into a restorative bowl of pho for lunch at Pho Factory in one of the shopping centers at Little River and 395. All in all a great day.

On Friday, November 21, 2014 5:56:22 PM UTC-5, FlyTymes wrote:


Fished Holmes Run today. Got out late, lost the sun and it got chilly, especilly sticking the hands in the drink. Fish were holding deep in the pools. 6-12 per, saw a few darting around the shallows. Passed a gentlemen swinging streamers, he said he had "no luck, but they were following". Well i may have cheatefd but i hung a nymph about 6 in under an oragne egg and it worked out well. Good portion of them turned on it and had 4 take. Fished from the downed tree by the pool up to the first crossing, 3 hrs.

Im not familiar with the area but through this website and the VDGIF I found my way to Holmes. Also stopping today at Orvis to increase my arsenal I was invited to your next "Beer Tie". First impression of this group is impressive. 

Cheers. Safe Travels,

Bret

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SWEET ROD - nice gift!  Well, we rate that rod for 500 grains for skagit, but I've cast it with more.  Key piece of data is your intention to toss some pretty good size flies.  Simply put, it takes mass to move mass, so depending on how beefy the flies are you may want to err on the slightly heavy side.  525 might be a good compromise.  

John Bilotta has pretty much every head produced for the last five years or so.  It may be in your best interest to hit him up for a lesson/ line selection session.  That way, you can get your technique right, then switch out heads in 25 grain increments until you get the feel you personally like.  Best to bring along some of your large patterns too.  Chucking yarn is a bit different than large flies.  To get the big stuff to fly, it can sometimes take an adjustment on anchor placement and tip selection.  It's amazing the impact that either can have.  Have fun in the process, you'll most likely end up with several different heads to do different work which will make for an incredibly versatile setup.

Dan Davala

On Saturday, December 27, 2014, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

It's a orvis helios 2 8 switch. Thank you so far for the input.

Dan Barrett
540-222-8064

On Dec 26, 2014 10:13 PM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

Dan Davala


On Friday, December 26, 2014, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:
What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:42:39 PM UTC-5, Danny Barrett wrote:

Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

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