Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders

Thursday, 29 November 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Gear choices and recommendations

I’m going to toe the line of an post advertising products and services and mention that there are a multitude of local choices for help regarding gear and tackle in this area and you shouldn’t be afraid to visit any of these places to help make your decisions.

I know I speak for Dan, Trent, and anyone else that frequents this board that also happens to work in the fly fishing industry – we’re here to help you. Don’t be shy and ask questions and come in and see us. Try gear on. If there’s something you want and none of us have it, ask us if we can special order it. Half the time, the shops call each other to help the customer find what he’s looking for. We all try to be on a first name basis with our customers and we actually LIKE helping you in your fishing endeavors. Living vicariously through your discovery of fly fishing and travels is something that everyone that works in a fly shop enjoys. We certainly don’t do it for the money.

I think we also understand that there are times when you need to be price conscious, and you know, we have a solution for that too. All the shops in the area carry a good range of products from low to high end, and although the prices in the fly fishing industry are the same no matter where you are in the country for most products, we all have alternatives if need be. We even have sales sometimes.

Your local shops are here to help you enjoy your sport/craft/addiction. That means help you choose the appropriate gear, help you find fish locally and somewhere distant where you’ll vacation, and help you understand the consequences of your actions, both positive and negative. The shop employees will have his or her own morals, standards, and things that make fly fishing appeal to them. We’ll have brand loyalty, bias towards or against certain products or fishing techniques, and even opinions on other fishermen and ethics like conservation, catch & release, and fishing regulations.

In the end, put some faith into your local shops and let us do what we do best – be there FOR you and help you the best way we can.

Regards,

Richard Farino

Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street 2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314

(703) 527-2524 | fax: (703) 527-3313 | richard@urbanangler.com

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Sling Packs / Alternate to vests

I have a chest pack I picked up from The Fly Shop for $39. Its got a ton of room, packs into a hiking back pack really well, has two areas for water bottles, a fold down flap in the front for easy access to flies and a lot of other cool features. I looked at the Orvis pack but its made of the same material, costs a whole lot more and didnt find it as convenient as having everything in front of you.

On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:25:02 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

I have the Orvis sling pack and I guess I didn't read the instructions. I always wear it around my body with the strap over the left shoulder and my head thru the strap. This lets me slide the pack around my body to get into it (the zippers come up on top ) and I never use the second strap. I looked at the Patagonia web site and I under stand how a sling pack would bother you if you cast right handed. I'll continue to wear mine the wrong way - I like it.

Bruce Mathews
703.772.7167

From: Mako <have...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Sling Packs / Alternate to vests

Even though this is always a very personal coke vs. pepsi kind of thing, I still always seem drawn toward chipping in.

The one thing I could never understand is why Patagonia and Orvis make the sling packs go over the right shoulder. I'm right handed and prefer the strap over my left shoulder. I have an older William Joseph sling that goes over the left. I think their newer models do as well...or are ambidextrous.

But after much trial and error I've settled on a Fishpond Waterdance lumbar pack. Good amount of storage, two water bottle holders (using them both makes is a bit heavy, admittedly), fold-down bench, and has a strap that can make it into a makeshift sling pack you can shorten up if you are wading deep.

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:09:51 PM UTC-5, Jeff Silvan wrote:
I'm trying to round out my Christmas list, and I figure some type of alternative to a vest would be a good addition. The pocket in my waders is usually enough storage for most of the fishing I do, but falls a bit short when I want to be out longer and bring a small snack and water - or if I want to bring my spare spool with my sinking line. I'm at a bit of a toss up between the Simms Dry Creek Flats Pack or the Simms Headwaters Sling Pack. Anyone have any input?
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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cold Weather Fix

I usually spend the winter organizing fishing gear, reading books on casting and fishing, and honing my cast....although, this past winter was so mild I pretty much did none of those things and just kept fishing...

-Trent

Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:56:19 -0800
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cold Weather Fix

What do you do to get your fix when the weather is cold? I usually spend the winters tying flies and dreaming of fly fishing. I don't think that I have ever flyfished between December and March).

Do you get out and do some cold water trout fishing? Do you head south on a trip?

Just curious.

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Wednesday, 28 November 2012

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} jackets

does anyone have a good wading jacket youd suggest? im putting one on a christmas list. the orvis clear water or the orvis tailwater looks good. but im open to any suggestions.

Dan Barrett

dannytbarrett@gmail.com

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: The 1st five (5) of you to respond are invited to....

Great seeing several TPFRers at the PRSC Member Night. BIG THANKS to Ernie for having us along as your guest. PRSC is a great group, and I look forward to partnering more with them in the coming year.

Dan Davala

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Ernie <ernierojas@verizon.net> wrote:

I may not get there in time......Dan will be there. But Steve Moore
and Jamie Gold, club officers, will be on the lookout for you guys.
Just tell them you are one of the 5 from TPFR.

See you there.....

Ernie

On Nov 27, 10:39 am, TomFly <thomasrhard...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ernie,
>
> Looking forward to this tomorrow night. I plan to arrive right at 6:30.
> Should I ask for you at the door?
>.
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 26, 2012 8:18:42 AM UTC-5, Ernie wrote:
>
> > No worries Matthew...
>
> > OK, we have room for one more, anyone?
>
> > The event starts with a BBQ meal at 6:30 on Wednesday.
>
> > Ernie

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Hotspotting Marshal's?

Thanks, Rob. I kayak too, so even better. My wife questioned my judgement when I came home with "another fishing jacket". I guess I could justify it as a " survival necessity" for the yak .

On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Rob@robsnowhite.com <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:

Kokatat tempest jacket. You'll never use a fishing jacket again.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Steve <dubblehaul@waywardangler.com> wrote:

That "bargain" Columbia PFG wading jacket is going back! I read a few negative reviews, mostly centered around an issue with the cuffs leaking. So, I dunked my arm into a bucket of water and guess what? It leaks. Columbia blew it. No wonder these were on clearance at Marshals.
Steve

On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:22 AM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:

Good post.

I think the main thing is that it's pointless to judge other anglers based upon your ideas of what is "cool" versus "uncool". Strike indicators (bobbers), 100% catch and release, intensely managing non-native trout in waters that are incapable of supporting them (God knows how many hellbender eggs have been eaten by rainbow trout ;)), fishing only with certain flies, fishing only with certain weight rods, hotspotting, releasing carp/snakeheads/bluegill the size of nickels, barbless hooks, etc. are all some of the things I've seen people argue about in this hobby....and no one is right, it's just opinion.

BTW - if anyone wants to trade bluegill hotspots let me know. I could live and die fishing for them alone and be happy. ;) I'm also looking for chain pickerel and/or pike.

Gene

On Monday, November 26, 2012 10:40:03 PM UTC-5, dubblehaul wrote:
Weird. I was trolling the racks at a local Marshal's department store and found several Columbia Performance Fishing Gear (PFG) wading jackets 50% off (like everything there, right?). They are waterproof/breathable, with neoprene cuffs and the shiny omni-heat liner. I had to buy one, along with a decorative jar of gourmet popcorn to eat while I read the "hot spotting" debate…and liking it.

I grew up hunting pheasant, eating trout, steelhead and salmon in my dad's "secret spots", which weren't really that secret. He just liked to think they were.

Do you ever read those guide books and then get to the featured river to find out it really kind of sucks, like the author wrote just enough to promote the general area but never the best holes - just enough to sell the book. I'm glad he didn't. Though, even with the best advise and best flies I fished the North Branch Potomac River five time before finally landing a sizable fish the river is known for gifting some lucky anglers. I had to learn the water on my own: the flow, the migration patterns, the holes, the runs, the best drift and, to a lesser degree, the right fly, and it changes all the time. And it was different on every trip.

What's my point? Oh yeah…so, a great angler who knows the water well privately, and discretely, told me exactly where to stand, which fly and how to drift it. But the water conditions were never the same as when he had previously fished it successfully, nor were the fish in the same spots. So, I still had to work pretty hard on each trip to find the spot that was fishing well at that very moment of the day. The nuances of the river dictated the outcome each time. I'm not a fan of hotspotting but bought the guide books and joined the clubs to meet anglers who could show me spots. But ultimately, it came down to me figuring it out. I realized that though popular, protecting my favorite places, the ones I enjoy most, had to be a priority for me. That said, I don't mind seeing other fly anglers in "my spots", especially those who are on their own journey and committed to keeping it fun for rest of us.

Solitude is nice though. When there is so much traffic that my cast or drift is obstructed by other anglers, there is conflict, the river spirits are unhappy and the zen is gone for me.

I think the hotspotting dialog, opposed or indifferent one may be to it, is very healthy for the sport and this forum. Thanks.

Steve

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Hotspotting Marshal's?

Kokatat tempest jacket. You'll never use a fishing jacket again.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Steve <dubblehaul@waywardangler.com> wrote:

That "bargain" Columbia PFG wading jacket is going back! I read a few negative reviews, mostly centered around an issue with the cuffs leaking. So, I dunked my arm into a bucket of water and guess what? It leaks. Columbia blew it. No wonder these were on clearance at Marshals.
Steve

On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:22 AM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:

Good post.

I think the main thing is that it's pointless to judge other anglers based upon your ideas of what is "cool" versus "uncool". Strike indicators (bobbers), 100% catch and release, intensely managing non-native trout in waters that are incapable of supporting them (God knows how many hellbender eggs have been eaten by rainbow trout ;)), fishing only with certain flies, fishing only with certain weight rods, hotspotting, releasing carp/snakeheads/bluegill the size of nickels, barbless hooks, etc. are all some of the things I've seen people argue about in this hobby....and no one is right, it's just opinion.

BTW - if anyone wants to trade bluegill hotspots let me know. I could live and die fishing for them alone and be happy. ;) I'm also looking for chain pickerel and/or pike.

Gene

On Monday, November 26, 2012 10:40:03 PM UTC-5, dubblehaul wrote:
Weird. I was trolling the racks at a local Marshal's department store and found several Columbia Performance Fishing Gear (PFG) wading jackets 50% off (like everything there, right?). They are waterproof/breathable, with neoprene cuffs and the shiny omni-heat liner. I had to buy one, along with a decorative jar of gourmet popcorn to eat while I read the "hot spotting" debate…and liking it.

I grew up hunting pheasant, eating trout, steelhead and salmon in my dad's "secret spots", which weren't really that secret. He just liked to think they were.

Do you ever read those guide books and then get to the featured river to find out it really kind of sucks, like the author wrote just enough to promote the general area but never the best holes - just enough to sell the book. I'm glad he didn't. Though, even with the best advise and best flies I fished the North Branch Potomac River five time before finally landing a sizable fish the river is known for gifting some lucky anglers. I had to learn the water on my own: the flow, the migration patterns, the holes, the runs, the best drift and, to a lesser degree, the right fly, and it changes all the time. And it was different on every trip.

What's my point? Oh yeah…so, a great angler who knows the water well privately, and discretely, told me exactly where to stand, which fly and how to drift it. But the water conditions were never the same as when he had previously fished it successfully, nor were the fish in the same spots. So, I still had to work pretty hard on each trip to find the spot that was fishing well at that very moment of the day. The nuances of the river dictated the outcome each time. I'm not a fan of hotspotting but bought the guide books and joined the clubs to meet anglers who could show me spots. But ultimately, it came down to me figuring it out. I realized that though popular, protecting my favorite places, the ones I enjoy most, had to be a priority for me. That said, I don't mind seeing other fly anglers in "my spots", especially those who are on their own journey and committed to keeping it fun for rest of us.

Solitude is nice though. When there is so much traffic that my cast or drift is obstructed by other anglers, there is conflict, the river spirits are unhappy and the zen is gone for me.

I think the hotspotting dialog, opposed or indifferent one may be to it, is very healthy for the sport and this forum. Thanks.

Steve

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