Wednesday, 27 February 2013

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

I was in the same boat a while back looking for a 3wt.  I started with the Bean 6'6" 3wt 2pc.  It turned out the rod just wasn't my cup o' tea so I ended up returning it.  I then picked up a 7'6" Redington Classic Trout 4pc that I like quite a bit more.  It won't win any contests, but neither will I.  You may still find them on closeout for not much more than the Bean sticks.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Hey troutman--I grew up in Maine, LL Bean was my local fly shop.  I have a 9ft 5wt and a 9ft 9wt--all of my rods have been from LLB.  I'm not in much of a position to compare rods, but I love the 5wt, and am pretty happy with the 9wt.  Their warranty is pretty spectacular though, My uncle closed his beans rod in a car door, brought it into the store and told them the story, and they wouldn't let him pay for the repair, they just gave him a new one.



On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM, troutman <michael.gasiecki@us.army.mil> wrote:
Mathew
I have looked into ll beans. I never have known any one to use one. Have you herd anything about them. I have a 6 wt and I'm going to try some small streams. A little bit of overkill.
Thanks
Mike

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Mathew
I have looked into ll beans. I never have known any one to use one. Have you herd anything about them. I have a 6 wt and I'm going to try some small streams. A little bit of overkill.
Thanks
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Last summer I got a J.P. Ross Beaver Meadow 5ft. 3 wt., slow action. I
love it. Haven't used it on a trout stream yet but have a ball with
Potomac blue gills.

On 2/27/13, Matthew Longley <matthew.longley@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm in the same place troutman. Can't really justify spending money on a
> 3-wt, but at the same time really like the idea of having a tiny-stream rod
>
> for backcountry. Was reading a lot of reviews about the eagle claw rods,
> which are something like 30 bucks, but I hear the 3wt plays more like a
> 5wt, which kinda defeats the purpose. Beans has some short 3-wts for
> cheap, but they are all 2-piece rods, I'm guessing to protect their more
> expensive pocket water rods.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:51:03 PM UTC-5, troutman wrote:
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>> Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

I'm in the same place troutman.  Can't really justify spending money on a 3-wt, but at the same time really like the idea of having a tiny-stream rod for backcountry.  Was reading a lot of reviews about the eagle claw rods, which are something like 30 bucks, but I hear the 3wt plays more like a 5wt, which kinda defeats the purpose.  Beans has some short 3-wts for cheap, but they are all 2-piece rods, I'm guessing to protect their more expensive pocket water rods.



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Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.

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Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Orvis Streamline vs ll bean quest

Sam, et al.,

 

Every major fly rod manufacturer builds a warranty into the cost of their rods.  If you buy a completed rod, the entire rod is under warranty.  If you buy a blank, just the rod blank is under warranty.  Some companies offer a 25-year warranty, some offer lifetime, some only 1 or 2 years depending on the model.

 

All manufacturers calculate and build the cost of the warranty into the retail price of the rod.  I asked the head of marketing at Sage about 8 or 9 years ago what that cost was, and I was told about $50.  Perhaps inflation has made that cost rise.

 

Every manufacturer gets to make a choice about a few things regarding their warranties – how long the repair time is, what the processing fee should be, what to charge for shipping back to the customer (or shop), how to handle manufacturing defects vs. obvious user error, whether to honor original owners or not, whether to replace or repair damages, and how long to hold onto the mandrels they use to roll new blanks.

 

Sage, Winston, Scott, and a few other manufacturers tend to keep a supply of mandrels on hand that date back 4-5 generations of their high end rods, and 2-3 generations of their low end rods, as well as a ton of extra blanks of all their rod weights.

 

When the manufacturers run out of blanks or the mandrels get worn out, they stop making those blanks and they offer an upgrade to the most similar new model (sometimes for a fee).

 

Repair time can vary from manufacturer, especially with companies that have a huge following.  Below is a list of warranty and repair information for the rods we sell.  Click each manufacturers name for links to their warranty information on their websites:

 

Sage

·         Lifetime original owner warranty.

·         4-5 week repair time, $50 processing and return fee.

·         Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

·         Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

 

R.L. Winston

·         Lifetime original owner warranty.

·         4-5 week repair time, $50 processing and return fee.

·         Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

·         Does enforce original owner warranty stipulation to registered owner.

 

Redington

·         Lifetime original owner warranty (for all but 2 rod models).

·         2-3 week repair time, $30 processing and return fee.

·         Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

·         Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

 

G. Loomis

·         Limited lifetime original owner warranty.

·         4-5 week repair time, $20 processing and return fee.

·         Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

·         Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

·         For NRX owners, Xpeditor service (2-day service for $100 – a new replacement rod is mailed), and Wild Card registration allowing you to walk into ANY Loomis dealer and exchange your broken rod for an over the counter replacement (if in stock).

 

Rise Fishing

·         Lifetime original owner warranty.

·         3-4 week repair time, $25 for section, $50 for entire rod processing and return fee.

·         Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

·         Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

 

Temple Forks

·         Lifetime original owner no-fault warranty.

·         1-2 week repair time, $25 processing and return fee.

·         Complete replacement when broken.

·         Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

 

I cannot speak for Orvis, LL Bean, or Cabela’s because we don’t sell their products, but all rod manufacturers have pretty much similar warranties.


Hope that clears a few things up.

 

 

Richard

 

 

 

 

 

Richard Farino

Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street  2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314

(703) 527-2524 | fax: (703) 527-3313 | richard@urbanangler.com

 

From: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com [mailto:tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Hauser
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:32 PM
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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Orvis Streamline vs ll bean quest

 

Thanks for the advice guys!

Sent from my iPad


On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Steve F <spfbeaver@gmail.com> wrote:

Both Orvis and LLBean have top notch gear warranties.  The Orvis warranty is well covered but Bean also has their satisfaction guarantee which allows you to take anything back at anytime.  I returned a broken spey rod that they didn't carry in the store so they handed me a giftcard for the full value - no questions asked.  

 

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