Tuesday, 15 June 2021

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Recommendation of best options for week long fishing excursion week of June 21

Thanks for the positive report on the South Holston, Misha. I'll be there and the Watauga in mid-July for three days of floating, targeting smallies and browns (and, possibly, stripers on the lake to try something entirely new). 

Best, 
Owen

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 4:40:40 PM UTC-4 mish...@gmail.com wrote:
Just drive right on past the S. Fork of the Holston (in VA) and head to the South Holston River near Bristol, TN. That would be my destination if I had a 6 hour radius driving distance from DC trip to plan. I hear very good things about the Delaware though, Art can attest, and I imagine your wheels are already in motion, but if weather forces you to adjust.... Back to the South Holston for a moment, when there's no generation happening, you can wade clear across the stream (like 100+ ft in most places) and fish to rising fish all day. They munch sulfurs this time of year, but there are also midges and blue wing olives in other seasons. Fishing the South Holston, its very spring creek like in that the currents are a gentle meander (again, assuming no generation occurring), and the water is exceptionally clear, but the key difference is the bottom is firm and wadeable, albeit slippery from the didymo. You have a lot of options in the area; you could mix it up by heading to the Watauga River or checking out blue lines in the area, and I'm sure there's bass fishing around as well. 

Regarding the South Fork of the Holston, it's a much smaller stream with less open water. I checked it out one time, and did ok. It's primarily stocked rainbow water (Buller fish hatchery is situated on the stream), the fish naturalize really well, and get to be mega sized. But you gotta fish peanuts to them (by which I mean, midge larvae imitations). The fish I hooked into were like 16" but only after I fished through all the water once with typical setups and got zero looks. They're just on the midges alllll day. There are thirty inchers in there. But there's not a ton of water, and if you're going that far, keep on going to the South Holston, which is epic and worth the multiple day exploration trip.

I need to try the Delaware. Throw it on the pile.

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 6:31:04 PM UTC-4 Doug Graebner wrote:

My dad used to LOVE the upper Delaware, although I struggled the one time I fished it, incompetent nincompoop that I am. Never fished the S. Fork Holston, although I did go on a trip to Damascus VA and very much liked spending time there. TBH if the fishing's an utter wash on the S. Fork Holston, the VA Creeper trail and AT in that area should make for a nice little excursion too.

*also there's Whitetop Laurel Creek near there, although that's a freestoner so I have grave doubts about how good the fishing will be in June. But we'd be talking well up in the mountains and it's a pretty large stream so there's an off chance it'll be good maybe? God I want to go back and give it a shot.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 9:44:03 PM UTC-4 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:
You might consider some bottom discharge tailwaters river such as:
Smith River - wild browns and stocked rainbows
S Fork of the Holston
Upper Delaware River in New York

If you are willing to drive further, the Upper Holston and Farmington Rivers in CT are pretty awesome. 

If you want a variety of fishing on one river, try the Juniata in PA.  From trout in the Little J and the Frankstown Branch, to freshwater stripers in Raystown Lake (formed by Army Corps of Engineers dam on the Juniata), to smallmouth fishing, especially from Lewistown down to the confluence with the Susquehanna.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 8:09 PM Doug Graebner <dgrae...@gmail.com> wrote:
I will second-third the suggestions for south-central PA, Harrisburg, and the State College area's spring creeks. You could also check out the Shenandoah and upper Potomac, but the other respondents in here seem to have a better handle on the smallies (although I keep getting told that I should fish the James upstream of Lynchburg, never mind that I don't have any good rods for smallies down here). One other option I don't think that has been mentioned for trout is the Savage/North Branch of the Potomac system; they're both tailwaters so should stay good well into the summer (and only ~3 hours from DC!) But yes, a lot will depend on water level. Erie, PA seems like a good option as well for lake smallies based on some articles I read a while back about then, and that may be less sensitive to rainfall (although I don't know jack about lake fishing).

If you have your heart set on trout as an option, you could also do a combined trip-a few days on say the Susquehanna or Shenandoah and some time on spring creeks near where you go.
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:41:31 PM UTC-4 klb...@gmail.com wrote:
I have heard second hand that parts of the New River in south west Virginia is hot  for smallmouth right now.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 1:49 PM Carl Z. <carl....@gmail.com> wrote:
I would consider the Erie PA region for Smallmouth.  Though they might not be in the rivers at that time. 
Plan to be flexible.  Temperature and Water levels are going to drive fishing choices.  There might be good trout fishing in North Central PA or the Catskills if there is a cool spell and some rain (we need rain).  Morning and evening fishing in the South Central PA region should be ok (they are spring fed),  But Smallmouth would be my preference if you want to plan ahead.  Even that is iffy due to potential heavy rain anywhere.  Welcome to fly fishing in the Mid-atlantic region.

New River?  Stay closer to home and upper Potomac?  Or hop on a plane, rent a cheap car (if you can find one) and camp out west.  

Carl

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On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 12:56 PM Rob <r...@robsnowhite.com> wrote:
Flies By Two Brothers told me about the 'Bahamas of west Virginia' 

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On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Gregg Rockett <grock...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey TPFR Fam.

I have bachelor status for the week of 21 June and plan on road tripping anywhere 6 hours or so from the DC area - far south as Cherokee National Forest or up into central NY.  But with this heat, I am sure the trout stream are two warm (I note the comments in the Rose River post recently).

So am I right to pass up trout fishing and instead put in my kayak in some salt water for stripers, blues, sea trout, etc?  I am looking for suggestions of where to camp/put in if that is the case.

Thanks to all of you for always being willing to put us readers straight!

Gregg Rockett

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