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Wednesday, 31 March 2021

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Denver?

Coloradotrouthunters.com on the south platte. I had a great day out there 8 years ago

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:44 PM Barracuda <omarksky@gmail.com> wrote:

Now fully vaccinated, I plan to visit my son for the first time since he moved to Denver last November. And while there, I'd love to get in at least a day of fly fishing.

Quick internet research shows lots of guides and quite a few places to fish not too far away, so maybe I can't really go wrong, but if anyone has a guide (or stream or other) recommendation, I'd love to hear it.

This will be late May-early June.

Thanks.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} boat motor recommendation

Harbin Marine in Lorton. Ask for Chip.

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On Mar 31, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Sean Steele <spsteele@gmail.com> wrote:

I've used Affordable Outdoors down near Stafford (call and make sure they work on outboards that small.)

-Sean

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} boat motor recommendation

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with any local company repairing small engines.

I have a motorized kayak with a small Honda motor that is in need of repair. It is coupled to a turbine resulting a small jet engine like a jet ski boat.

Appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks

Art

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Florida Everlgades / Flamingo

Me and a few buddies are looking to do a guided fly trip in the everglades / flamingo area to hopefully get into snook, tarpon, etc...

Was wondering if anybody has done this before and/or can recommend a guide.

thanks,

Jason

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} boat motor recommendation

I've used Affordable Outdoors down near Stafford (call and make sure they work on outboards that small.)

-Sean

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} boat motor recommendation

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with any local company repairing small engines.

I have a motorized kayak with a small Honda motor that is in need of repair. It is coupled to a turbine resulting a small jet engine like a jet ski boat.

Appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks

Art

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} boat motor recommendation

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with any local company repairing small engines.

I have a motorized kayak with a small Honda motor that is in need of repair. It is coupled to a turbine resulting a small jet engine like a jet ski boat.

Appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks

Art

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Denver?

Now fully vaccinated, I plan to visit my son for the first time since he moved to Denver last November. And while there, I'd love to get in at least a day of fly fishing.

Quick internet research shows lots of guides and quite a few places to fish not too far away, so maybe I can't really go wrong, but if anyone has a guide (or stream or other) recommendation, I'd love to hear it.

This will be late May-early June.

Thanks.

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Sunday, 28 March 2021

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Park streams

I fished there on Thursday. Fishing was decent but not many bugs. Fish seemed a bit sluggish but I still caught plenty on dries.

I've only fished the north river once and didn't find it to be anything worth a special drive.

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 8:54:57 PM UTC-4 Terry C wrote:

Hi all, my son Colin in in town for a few days. He's wanting to do some Brookie fishing. His plan was to head down to the North River. I can't go , also think he is driving past a ton of good fishing. Anyone been in the park lately and have any suggestions for him. I don't do much fishing in the park anymore, the knees are going.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Park streams

Hi all, my son Colin in in town for a few days. He's wanting to do some Brookie fishing. His plan was to head down to the North River. I can't go , also think he is driving past a ton of good fishing. Anyone been in the park lately and have any suggestions for him. I don't do much fishing in the park anymore, the knees are going.

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Friday, 26 March 2021

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly lines for shad

Mark and Others:

Thanks for the reply. For the first time this year I'm using a two-handed fly rod to fish for them from shore. I have to admit that by doing some spey/roll casting (although I'm not very good at it), its nice not having to worry about my backcast. However, I don't think my sink tip was heavy enough. I went Thursday after work and while the spin guys around me caught fish but I got skunked. I think my fly wasn't getting deep enought, so I'm going to try some heavier sink tips to try to get the fly down deeper in the water column. Of course, I'm also curious to see how many more flies I lost by getting snagged. LOL

Thanks,

Jamie Gold

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 7:08:51 PM UTC-4 Mark Binsted wrote:

For boat fishing you will need a sinking portion from 24 to 30 ft. long. I call this a shooting head even if it comes integrated into the line. My line is not integrated so I can handle different river depths, conditions and locations. My running line is an intermediate sink version so you could say the assembled line is "full sink". I get down very deep to American shad, often missing the hickories altogether. Integrated lines are available with either floating or intermediate running sections. A 250g fast sinking head would work well in most situations. Many people have taken to calling shooting heads sink tips, but I understand that terminology refers to shorter add-ons to floating lines, 15' or less, as in trout fishing. They often work fine for hickory shad, especially later in the run.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:01:40 PM UTC-4 tstee...@gmail.com wrote:
Agree with Doug, at least on the DC/MD side. Have not fished from the VA side so it may be different.

From a boat full sink no question. But, from the rocks I've found it difficult to find a spot where a full sink does not drape over the rocks before the deeper channel.

I keep a full sink with me, but rarely use it.

Best success and least frustration has been with either a floating line with an 8-15 foot sink tip or an intermediate with a sink 3 tip. Slower sink especially in very slow current gives you time to work the fly.

I find alot of this, frankly, is dictated by when you fish and how many people are there.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 2:43 PM Doug Graebner <dgrae...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd go for sink tip if you're rockhopping, full sink has a nasty tendency to get tangled on the bottom a LOT.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 2:28:35 PM UTC-4 angus...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious as to what kind of fly line is best for shad? Any particular preference between sink tip or full sink in fishing situations like rock hopping around fletchers cove?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} NCC-TU Shad Report #3

This sounds about right! We caught a dozen shad on the fly this evening upstream of Fletchers from the shore.

-Adam

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 6:34 PM Mark Binsted <mbinsted16@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's our Shad Report #3 from this morning. The American shad run is really taking off and Fletcher's Boathouse opens tomorrow!
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly lines for shad

For boat fishing you will need a sinking portion from 24 to 30 ft. long. I call this a shooting head even if it comes integrated into the line. My line is not integrated so I can handle different river depths, conditions and locations. My running line is an intermediate sink version so you could say the assembled line is "full sink". I get down very deep to American shad, often missing the hickories altogether. Integrated lines are available with either floating or intermediate running sections. A 250g fast sinking head would work well in most situations. Many people have taken to calling shooting heads sink tips, but I understand that terminology refers to shorter add-ons to floating lines, 15' or less, as in trout fishing. They often work fine for hickory shad, especially later in the run.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:01:40 PM UTC-4 tstee...@gmail.com wrote:

Agree with Doug, at least on the DC/MD side. Have not fished from the VA side so it may be different.

From a boat full sink no question. But, from the rocks I've found it difficult to find a spot where a full sink does not drape over the rocks before the deeper channel.

I keep a full sink with me, but rarely use it.

Best success and least frustration has been with either a floating line with an 8-15 foot sink tip or an intermediate with a sink 3 tip. Slower sink especially in very slow current gives you time to work the fly.

I find alot of this, frankly, is dictated by when you fish and how many people are there.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 2:43 PM Doug Graebner <dgrae...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd go for sink tip if you're rockhopping, full sink has a nasty tendency to get tangled on the bottom a LOT.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 2:28:35 PM UTC-4 angus...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious as to what kind of fly line is best for shad? Any particular preference between sink tip or full sink in fishing situations like rock hopping around fletchers cove?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} NCC-TU Shad Report #3

Here's our Shad Report #3 from this morning. The American shad run is really taking off and Fletcher's Boathouse opens tomorrow!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Luray and Front Royal recommendations

I've got some cicadas Rob Snowwhite tied that'd I'd like to try on the smallies when it gets crazy. Never fished a cicada brood before.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 4:03 PM Spencer Newman <j.spencer.newman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'll check out Seven Bends. It's only about 40 minutes from the clinic, so I could easily go before or after a shift for a couple hours.

They haven't released many April dates yet for the clinic, so I'm not sure which location I might volunteer at next or when, but Luke I'll give you a call once I know. Thanks!

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:34 PM Luke Morrison <lukemorrison138@gmail.com> wrote:
I fish both forks frequently and can definitely steer you to some wonderful spots: parking, reasonably easy wading and decent fishing.

I'd argue the fishing WAS great but has suffered severely over the past 5-10 years specifically due to high water events during spawn. There are still plenty of smallies, fallfish, brim - even rock bass are making a slight comeback however the size and overall numbers are down. I find the south fork to be fishing best between elkton and Luray.

Give me a shout on my cell, happy to share info and get you on fish. I'll be fishing the north fork Shenandoah all weekend.

Luke Morrison
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On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:

Its kind of early but both forks of the shenandoah are great for smallmouth. There are a number of operations near front royal that rent canoes and will shuttle you. Not sure if they are open yet.

You are also close to the park and the brook trout fishing is starting to pick up.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:37:39 PM UTC-4 j.spence...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been volunteering at vaccination clinics in Luray and Front Royal. I only volunteer a half day, and it's hard not to think about fishing when you drive over the rivers, etc. I haven't fished the area at all. Any advice on where to start?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Luray and Front Royal recommendations

I'll check out Seven Bends. It's only about 40 minutes from the clinic, so I could easily go before or after a shift for a couple hours.

They haven't released many April dates yet for the clinic, so I'm not sure which location I might volunteer at next or when, but Luke I'll give you a call once I know. Thanks!

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:34 PM Luke Morrison <lukemorrison138@gmail.com> wrote:

I fish both forks frequently and can definitely steer you to some wonderful spots: parking, reasonably easy wading and decent fishing.

I'd argue the fishing WAS great but has suffered severely over the past 5-10 years specifically due to high water events during spawn. There are still plenty of smallies, fallfish, brim - even rock bass are making a slight comeback however the size and overall numbers are down. I find the south fork to be fishing best between elkton and Luray.

Give me a shout on my cell, happy to share info and get you on fish. I'll be fishing the north fork Shenandoah all weekend.

Luke Morrison
202-271-5420

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On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:

Its kind of early but both forks of the shenandoah are great for smallmouth. There are a number of operations near front royal that rent canoes and will shuttle you. Not sure if they are open yet.

You are also close to the park and the brook trout fishing is starting to pick up.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:37:39 PM UTC-4 j.spence...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been volunteering at vaccination clinics in Luray and Front Royal. I only volunteer a half day, and it's hard not to think about fishing when you drive over the rivers, etc. I haven't fished the area at all. Any advice on where to start?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Luray and Front Royal recommendations

I fish both forks frequently and can definitely steer you to some wonderful spots: parking, reasonably easy wading and decent fishing.

I'd argue the fishing WAS great but has suffered severely over the past 5-10 years specifically due to high water events during spawn. There are still plenty of smallies, fallfish, brim - even rock bass are making a slight comeback however the size and overall numbers are down. I find the south fork to be fishing best between elkton and Luray.

Give me a shout on my cell, happy to share info and get you on fish. I'll be fishing the north fork Shenandoah all weekend.

Luke Morrison

202-271-5420

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:

Its kind of early but both forks of the shenandoah are great for smallmouth. There are a number of operations near front royal that rent canoes and will shuttle you. Not sure if they are open yet.

You are also close to the park and the brook trout fishing is starting to pick up.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:37:39 PM UTC-4 j.spence...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been volunteering at vaccination clinics in Luray and Front Royal. I only volunteer a half day, and it's hard not to think about fishing when you drive over the rivers, etc. I haven't fished the area at all. Any advice on where to start?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Luray and Front Royal recommendations

Its kind of early but both forks of the shenandoah are great for smallmouth. There are a number of operations near front royal that rent canoes and will shuttle you. Not sure if they are open yet.

You are also close to the park and the brook trout fishing is starting to pick up.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:37:39 PM UTC-4 j.spence...@gmail.com wrote:

I've been volunteering at vaccination clinics in Luray and Front Royal. I only volunteer a half day, and it's hard not to think about fishing when you drive over the rivers, etc. I haven't fished the area at all. Any advice on where to start?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Luray and Front Royal recommendations

Thanks for doing this important work!

It's about a half hour drive from either Luray or Front Royal, but for the last two summers, I've been loving the intimacy of the North Fork, especially Seven Bends State Park near Woodstock, which has two main access points. The smallmouth aren't huge, but the water is varied over this short stretch, and it's wadeable anytime the flow is below 500 on the Strasburg USGS gauge.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:37:39 PM UTC-4 j.spence...@gmail.com wrote:

I've been volunteering at vaccination clinics in Luray and Front Royal. I only volunteer a half day, and it's hard not to think about fishing when you drive over the rivers, etc. I haven't fished the area at all. Any advice on where to start?

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Thursday, 25 March 2021

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: North Branch and Savage Report

Mainly Barnum, yes.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 5:35:41 PM UTC-4 Terry C wrote:

Well done, great fishing. We're you at Barnum on the NB.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 7:23:55 PM UTC-4 jhaner...@gmail.com wrote:
Did three full days fishing the North Branch Potomac and Upper Savage this past weekend with my buddy. We decided to give the lower savage a break and focus mainly on catching big rainbows and browns in the north branch. Won't bore with anymore typing...so jus see for yourself....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLqAxWDickY

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: RIP Whitlow's on WIlson

Second Monday of the month has been a personal highlight for several years now and no Beer Ties is one of the worst things about the pandemic. This BLOWS.

Best of luck to the staff there.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: North Branch and Savage Report

Well done, great fishing. We're you at Barnum on the NB.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 7:23:55 PM UTC-4 jhaner...@gmail.com wrote:

Did three full days fishing the North Branch Potomac and Upper Savage this past weekend with my buddy. We decided to give the lower savage a break and focus mainly on catching big rainbows and browns in the north branch. Won't bore with anymore typing...so jus see for yourself....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLqAxWDickY

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Luray and Front Royal recommendations

I've been volunteering at vaccination clinics in Luray and Front Royal. I only volunteer a half day, and it's hard not to think about fishing when you drive over the rivers, etc. I haven't fished the area at all. Any advice on where to start?

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Wednesday, 24 March 2021

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: RIP Whitlow's on WIlson

Really sad to see them go. Although they did say they are looking for a new location.

We Will find a new Beer Tie home when we get pack to normal.

I would love to hear any suggestions !

Cheers,

Art Noglak

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 7:32 PM tperkins <thomas.perkins1@gmail.com> wrote:

Well damn, that's too bad.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 4:22:25 PM UTC-4 Dalton Terrell wrote:

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/03/24/just-in-whitlows-says-it-will-close-in-june-but-may-reopen-elsewhere/

Best of luck to the Whitlow's folks and TPFR on finding a new Beer Tie spot when things are more normal.

Dalton

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: RIP Whitlow's on WIlson

Well damn, that's too bad.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 4:22:25 PM UTC-4 Dalton Terrell wrote:

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/03/24/just-in-whitlows-says-it-will-close-in-june-but-may-reopen-elsewhere/

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} North Branch and Savage Report

Did three full days fishing the North Branch Potomac and Upper Savage this past weekend with my buddy. We decided to give the lower savage a break and focus mainly on catching big rainbows and browns in the north branch. Won't bore with anymore typing...so jus see for yourself....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLqAxWDickY

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad report

Oh now mom didn't raise a quitter.

On Mar 24, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Sean Steele <spsteele@gmail.com> wrote:

There's a multi-step "solution" for that, ya know :-)

-Sean

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I wasn't aware that I could fish or play golf without drinking! Thanks for letting me know haha.

On Mar 24, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Josh Thomas <joshmthomas00@gmail.com> wrote:

Just takes practice dont give up

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:05 AM Sean Steele <spsteele@gmail.com> wrote:

Like golf, I find it really difficult to fly fish well and drink. I prefer to wait until after fishing!

-Sean

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I was already thinking about my beer in my cooler, Colors were white, pink, chartreuse, and fire orange.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:53:43 PM UTC-4 Terry C wrote:

I was able to get out on the river the last 2 days. Launched my kayak at Fletcher's. The river is in good shape. The bite came and went in several spurts. Drifted the cove several times each day The lower end of the cove seemed better. Coolers that worked white, pink, chartreuse, fire orange. This weeks weather should really get thinks going. I managed about 2 dz to the boat each day and several long line releases in 5 hours of fishing each day. Hope to see many of my TPFR friends out there.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} RIP Whitlow's on WIlson

https://www.arlnow.com/2021/03/24/just-in-whitlows-says-it-will-close-in-june-but-may-reopen-elsewhere/

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Looking for advice on how to fish the Patuxent River

The folks at Potomac Patuxent Chapter of TU have a forum you might want to scope out: https://www.pptu.org/comm/forum

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Snakehead fishing near Mattawoman creek

Nope! That's one of the best things about snakehead. Not only have they inhabited shallow, low oxygen water where there really weren't any game opportunities in the past, but they also bite aggressively all summer long. I will say that they are harder to catch as the summer wears on. By August, the spatterdock and hydrilla beds are VERY thick and harder to find open holes/channels where you can pull a fly through, but you can still catch them. A falling tide will force them closer to the edges of the hydrilla and makes it slightly easier.

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 2:00:54 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:

Thanks Greg,. Do the snakeheads turn off in July and August like the rest of the area?

I'm looking forward to catching some.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 2:20 PM Gregg DiSalvo <grdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
They will be active now. Not feeding heavily and a little lethargic. I don't start targeting them on the fly for another month or so, but a slow streamer in likely haunts may get you one. Conventional folks are fishing both lures and minnows under bobbers now.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:37:36 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:
So when do the snakehead start getting active? A friend has a boat and wants to come down to try it out. When should we plan for?

Carl

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Snakehead fishing near Mattawoman creek

Thanks Greg,. Do the snakeheads turn off in July and August like the rest of the area?

I'm looking forward to catching some.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 2:20 PM Gregg DiSalvo <grdisalvo@gmail.com> wrote:

They will be active now. Not feeding heavily and a little lethargic. I don't start targeting them on the fly for another month or so, but a slow streamer in likely haunts may get you one. Conventional folks are fishing both lures and minnows under bobbers now.

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 1:37:36 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:
So when do the snakehead start getting active? A friend has a boat and wants to come down to try it out. When should we plan for?

Carl

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad report

There's a multi-step "solution" for that, ya know :-)

-Sean

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I wasn't aware that I could fish or play golf without drinking! Thanks for letting me know haha.

On Mar 24, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Josh Thomas <joshmthomas00@gmail.com> wrote:

Just takes practice dont give up

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:05 AM Sean Steele <spsteele@gmail.com> wrote:

Like golf, I find it really difficult to fly fish well and drink. I prefer to wait until after fishing!

-Sean

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad report

I was already thinking about my beer in my cooler, Colors were white, pink, chartreuse, and fire orange.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:53:43 PM UTC-4 Terry C wrote:

I was able to get out on the river the last 2 days. Launched my kayak at Fletcher's. The river is in good shape. The bite came and went in several spurts. Drifted the cove several times each day The lower end of the cove seemed better. Coolers that worked white, pink, chartreuse, fire orange. This weeks weather should really get thinks going. I managed about 2 dz to the boat each day and several long line releases in 5 hours of fishing each day. Hope to see many of my TPFR friends out there.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad report

I wasn't aware that I could fish or play golf without drinking! Thanks for letting me know haha.

On Mar 24, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Josh Thomas <joshmthomas00@gmail.com> wrote:

Just takes practice dont give up

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:05 AM Sean Steele <spsteele@gmail.com> wrote:

Like golf, I find it really difficult to fly fish well and drink. I prefer to wait until after fishing!

-Sean

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad report

I was already thinking about my beer in my cooler, Colors were white, pink, chartreuse, and fire orange.

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:53:43 PM UTC-4 Terry C wrote:

I was able to get out on the river the last 2 days. Launched my kayak at Fletcher's. The river is in good shape. The bite came and went in several spurts. Drifted the cove several times each day The lower end of the cove seemed better. Coolers that worked white, pink, chartreuse, fire orange. This weeks weather should really get thinks going. I managed about 2 dz to the boat each day and several long line releases in 5 hours of fishing each day. Hope to see many of my TPFR friends out there.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Four Mile Run - Flood Management

That's actually great news. I've fished four mile run a handful of times when I lived in Arlington with varied luck. It'll be nice to have a lot of deeper holes to fish in once they've completed the project.

On Mar 24, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Rob Snowhite <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:

I'm really looking forward to this. The Army Corps built the current itiration of Four Mile Run in the 70s after Agnes came through. Due to erosion and sand on streets in winter the area of 4MR that is designed to absorb flood water has filled in. The section between Mt. Vernon and Rte 1 will be dredged to remove sediment and allow the Army Corps to adjust the flow.

I'm sure the wildlife will be fine. There isn't much other than clams in the sediment. Otters and birds will return once the equipment is gone. I'm looking forward to deeper water that fish will explore.

Rob Snowhite

On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 10:10:46 AM EDT, Cody Schultz <cody92schultz@gmail.com> wrote:

It looks like they will be dredging 4MR in late summer or early fall. I'm newer to the area, but are efforts like this the extent of solutions to combat flooding? Also since this isn't the first dredging they have done at 4MR, what are the general wildlife impacts (fishing and otherwise) that you have seen?

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Four Mile Run flood channel maintenance agreement
The County Board approved an intergovernmental agreement with the City of Alexandria for the two jurisdictions to share maintenance costs and the dredging of the two-mile Four Mile Run flood channel, which extends from Shirlington to the Potomac River. The channel straddles the boundary between the County and the City of Alexandria.
Maintenance of the open channel includes clearing debris, sediment and vegetation, and re-stabilizing stream banks as required by the United States Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) annual inspection program. The two jurisdictions have agreed to a 50-50 split of the costs of the dredging, which will help preserve the flood channel's capacity and reduce flood risk in neighborhoods surrounding South Four Mile Run.
The work will begin in late summer or early Fall, 2021 and take approximately four months. The Four Mile Run Levee System, a USACE flood risk management project, was completed in 1984 in response to several devastating floods in South Arlington. The Board voted unanimously to approve the agreement. To view the staff report, scroll to Item No. 26 on the agenda for the Saturday, March 20, 2021, County Board Meeting agenda.

Previous dredging of Four Mile Run Channel

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