Monday, 16 April 2018

RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Digest for tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 4 topics

Sorry this is late, but, as Program Lead, this is a sincere thanks from those of us in the Project Healing Waters Walter Reed Program for the great flies you guys tied and donated, and the $300 you raised in your raffle at the last Beer Tie.  Your generosity is greatly appreciated and your flies have already been used by our warriors.  They will be used throughout this season and will not doubt catch many fish as well as decorate the many trees we fish around!   We love this association with TPFR and look forward to this annual event.  Can't wait for the next time!

 

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·         four mile run - 1 Update

·         Shad - 2 Updates

·         Planning a trip to the Eastern Shore - 6 Updates

·         Snakes and Bears - 1 Update

Severn <calvofam@gmail.com>: Apr 15 12:25PM -0700

Thanks for the report. Any other reports of recent outings to 4MR?
 
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:50:14 AM UTC-4, Bill Garrahan wrote:

Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com>: Apr 15 09:47AM -0700


> another interesting shad matter.....
> The Anacostia Watershed Society (AWS)
> does some great work on the long term restoration of that troubled river and feeder streams. There latest newsletter discusses seeding shad on the Anscostia watershed. The folks at AWS are providing shad eggs to school classes to hatch and release. I look forward to casting for shad on those improving waters.
 
Sunday morning between 7:00 and 10:00. Managed to get into some shad. Not epic but enough to make it worth wile. Temps dropped 10 degrees and winds came up. More Americans came to hand than Hickory's. Very surprised

Severn <calvofam@gmail.com>: Apr 15 12:23PM -0700

Went to Fletcher's yesterday and it was almost impossible to get a
rowboat. Apparently all the boats were out before dawn and a long waitlist
the rest of the day.
 

John Smith <nativesuv@gmail.com>: Apr 15 04:42AM -0700

Based on my experience down there if I were going the first week in June I
would try the bayside creeks. There are not a lot of boat ramp options on
the creeks themselves, but you could launch at Cape Charles or Morleys
Wharf and run to Hungars, Plantation, or one of the other creeks and target
specks (if this past winter didn't affect them too much?).
 
On the oceanside, I think that time of year is mostly for the big red drum
in the inlets which i know very little about. I'll defer to others on that.
Just gotta use good judgment fishing the inlets. As for running around down
there, try to launch around low tide so you can see the oyster bars as you
head out away from the launch and then you'll have your GPS track to follow
at higher tides. At high tide you can run just about anywhere. Its the
intermediate tides that can ruin the day. I don't take shortcuts during
those times. To be honest the barrier island backwaters is a tough place to
fish unless you put in a lot of time over the years. The bugs are the least
of the problem. Its usually breezy (windy) enough that once you leave the
ramp you'll wonder what the fuss was all about. The most annoying thing for
me is the floating sea grass that the wind churns up and then drifts out
with the tides. Deep, fast, turbid water is very typical. I use lines that
will sink pretty fast.
 
Mid to late June through August brings tarpon and lots of sharks (just
missed one on a fly last time down there), along with hordes of croaker
anglers from NC. Even ran into some tripletail one summer. That is when I
like to fish down there. Its a very cool place. Very humbling though.
 
Good luck with your trip. John
 
On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 4:59:57 PM UTC-4, HeaveToo wrote:

namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com>: Apr 15 06:09AM -0700

You''l probably find some useful intel in Brett Gaba's book, Fly Fishing
the Tidewaters of Maryland's Chesapeake Bay
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https://www.amazon.com/Fly-Fishing-Tidewaters-Marylands-Chesapeake/dp/0764348841/ref=la_B015DNGH0A_1_1/146-2473275-9816106?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1523797759&sr=1-1>
 
 
 
On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 4:59:57 PM UTC-4, HeaveToo wrote:

HeaveToo <cpd032@hotmail.com>: Apr 15 06:56AM -0700

Thank you for the information.
 
What about Wise Boat Ramp and the area around Fisherman's Island?
 
Good suggestion about running on low tide. Being that it is a new area I
don't mind creeping. My boat drafts about 12" and I do have a front
trolling motor for when I fish.
 
I would love to get into some trout, puppies, or even schoolie stripers. I
also know that it is wise to bring other types of tackle besides the fly
rod because the area is like the OBX and it can get very windy, making it
almost impossible to cast.

John Smith <nativesuv@gmail.com>: Apr 15 07:51AM -0700

I have not used that ramp before. I usually go out of Oyster. Also, I like
to launch before sunrise and I'm not certain if the refuge ramp is open
that early. I know there are flounder down that way and you are also close
to the bay bridge tunnel. I have not heard of stripers in that area. There
are schoolies up in the bayside creeks. Always a chance the puppy drum
could be there, but the last year that i recall them being really abundant
in the ES backwaters was around 2014. From what I've read though the
Fishermans Island area is great for the big reds. I just can't help much
with that.
 
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:56:15 AM UTC-4, HeaveToo wrote:

Charlie Church <charliechurch1@gmail.com>: Apr 15 08:42AM -0700

Wise Point is an easier ramp than oyster to launch out of as long as you
head south.
 
Most of the reds will be in deeper water by June. If it's calm, you could
spend the day sight casting to cobia with a shot at seeing reds along the
drop off. I agree with John Smith. I'd fish some bayside creeks. The winter
was harsh on the trout population but there are still some around and we
will know more about how many survived this week.
 
As far as puppy drum, there should be plenty around. Same with stripers.

HeaveToo <cpd032@hotmail.com>: Apr 15 09:27AM -0700

Hrm...my biggest Fly Rod is an 8 weight and I don't have the funds in the
boat account to get a bigger outfit so a cobia on that could be a bit
interesting!
 
I do like fishing the creeks. Particularly the grass as the tide falls
from High Tide. I had a great trip on the Coan River where that pattern
worked out well. Any creeks on the south end worth hitting? How about
Fisherman's Island?
 
My big plan is to go down there with flexible targets. If one situation
doesn't work out try something else. I wouldn't mind flounder either,
stripers are nice, and of course I puppy drum, or what ever else we can get
to bite at the time. If the Bay is rough fish inside etc.

MikeV <michael_virginia@yahoo.com>: Apr 15 06:10AM -0700

Jim, I checked into the possibility of carrying an anti bear revolver, as
a last ditch defense, on US Forestry lands...especially in the northern
Rockies and in Alaska. Can't be done legally unless one has a concealed
carry permit if I read that right on the GW Forrest web site.
 
On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 12:50:15 PM UTC-4, MikeV wrote:

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