Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders

Monday, 31 August 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

Dearest sirt,

You swing soft hackles. Until you change your fishing repertoire to upstream dry fly only, I suggest you refrain from partaking in any internet banter.

Pinky extended,

Sir Richard of H Street

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Date: Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 4:58 AM
To: Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com>
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

Hey! -- if there's one thing that works well on the internet, it's arrogance with no explanation!

Andrew: So long as you have a valid fishing license, you are well within your right to fish the SNP streams (or lower Rapidan) whenever you feel like it. Virginia DGIF proudly advertises a "year-round" trout fishery, so there's absolutely no legal requirement to avoid fishing the streams when they're low. Hell, I fish 75F water, and straight through the spawn and also stomach pump each and every brook trout to see what they're eating (which is critical to catching SNP brook trout) and because it's fun to make fish barf!

Note that fishing locally really sucks though -- you should pay your left arm to do a bonefish trip once, and then tell everyone at beer tie about ("them big bones I caught like, 8 years ago") and your various reasons for not fishing the rest of the year. "High temperature" is a good start, but don't forget "dry hands". The more arrogant you are about it, the better! You'll fill your dance card!

Gene

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 10:59:13 PM UTC-4, Yambag Nelson wrote:

How about just leaving them alone?

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 8:36:50 PM UTC-4, Andrew Chaney wrote:
After getting skunked at the mid-section of the Rapidan several weeks ago, I decided to hit up the lower portion this afternoon (just north of Graves Mill). The fallfish bite was aggressive. In about an hour of fishing, I caught about a dozen ranging from 6" - 12". However, I saw something concerning that I thought I'd run by here.

In one pool, I saw dozens of fish, about half fallfish, 1/3 brook trout, and the rest miscellaneous. The brook trout were decently sized and they were very sluggish. They just stuck to the bottom of the pool and didn't react to anything. I dropped woolly buggers, prince nymphs, and hare's ear nymphs right in front of their noses and got nothing. At one point, a hare's ear brushed over the back of one of them and it hardly reacted. At another point, I hooked into a 12" fallfish and it darted all over the pool. Again, the brookies barely moved.

So, is this normal behavior for brook trout? Other than their extreme stoicism, there didn't seem to be anything wrong. Is it a late summer temperature thing or something else?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Maryland browns

Bonus -- I owe you a beer at the next tie!

On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:58:40 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:

Nice Fontinalis salvelinus too

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Maryland browns

Nice Fontinalis salvelinus too

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: South Fork

The biggest fish I caught yesterday was this fat smallie near the boat landing. We were waiting for the canoe livery to pick us up and I waded out and stripped a streamer along the bank from the middle of the river. The fish was following it and I thought for sure it would turn away when it got close to me, but when I paused the strip, she just sipped it in and I was able to land it.

On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:09:57 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

Hi Bob -- sounds like fun. We do the same thing on floats. The biggest fish I've managed seem to be when I make long casts off of the front of the canoe to structure well before the boat getting there to tip them off. Naive fish act a LOT differently than ones that are even remotely aware of humans/disturbance.

I usually just use 8-10 pound stuff for most flies, but have probably used 4 pound maxima (4x dia) on and off with small streamers, and the 15 pound mono does better with the monster poppers. I find smallmouth to be a lot more sensitive to disturbance than tippet.

Gene

On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:52:14 AM UTC-4, Bob Richey wrote:
For the past two weekends, I've floated the South Fork from mile 13 to 19 and have had pretty good success for late summer. The water's gin clear, so I've gone down to 3x tippet. I've been finding good numbers in the fast water, especially on the lip of riffles. Usually, I switch to a crayfish, or helgramite pattern this late in the summer, but they're still hitting shenks and pearl marauders, so why switch? I did land two 15 inchers in slower water near the bank. Mostly, we paddle down to each riffle, get out and swing some streamers then paddle on to the next riffle. I had started by fishing poppers on the bank, but I kept getting bluegills so I switched over.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly fishing from beach

Fished there last week and got nothing in the surf. short/hard break makes for run up and walk back casting.

Silver lake is good for golden bass and some largemouth barring any large saltwater injections. kind of a kids fishing place more than anything you'd want to seriously attack.

Indian River Inlet area is best bet for saltwater but can get crowded. Also you can fish the shallows anywhere along rehoboth bay, go during low tide to spot the channels, then come back for the incoming and quick strip minnow patterns for small (1-2.5lb) blues and schoolie stripers. thoroughly rinse yourself and your gear afterwards and check the water quality reports before wet wading, there are often extremely high levels of bacteria in the summer warranting a 'no contact' warning. and be careful if you try putting a boat in on Rehoboth Bay, some incredible tidal currents and storms/wind can pop up quicker than a radar app updates.

On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 2:40:58 PM UTC-4, Marek wrote:

I have a place in Bethany and fish the Indian River Inlet when time permits. Much like any tidal water, timing the tides to sun-up/sun-down is always suggested. Fishing the ocean side jetty requires a bit of work, as some of the larger rocks, especially the further out you go, can get pretty slippery. I fished my 7wt with a sinking tip and was able to get into several nice sized stripers – most of them landed close to the rocks. I fished a duel rig with two clouser minnows, one larger in the front and a smaller in the rear some 14-18" below, and was successful with both. I even had one double hook-up that was pretty freaky. Please pay particular attention to where you fish and the nearest point of water access, as trying to jump rocks, get down to the water and land the fish isn't for the faint of heart.

As mentioned below, it can get crowded and a striping basket is a must. The absolute best location is the very end of the jetty. Depending on wind and the direction of the surf, the ocean will "sweep" over an old extension of the jetty that is mostly submersed below the ocean surface. This was by far the most productive place to fish, as many of the large fish hang the wash picking off bait fish that roll over in the surf.

For an incoming tide, I like the southern side of the inlet.

Personal message me if you want additional info.

Marek

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fly fishing from beach

Bob-

I have a place in Rehoboth and fish it all the time. For those of you who have seen my posts, carp fishing in Silver Lake...

1-bring 5 wt to fish for giant enormous carp in Silver Lake. Fish near the park at the far west side of Silver Lake. https://www.google.com/maps/search/silver+lake+park+delaware+rehoboth/@38.7093509,-75.0881457,17.22z
2-fishing in the surf has been really really slow. I have thrown every kind of bait known, live, bloodworms, cut bait and have not caught anything. My buddies tell me that the bite in the surf is off this year because of the cold winter.
3-fishing from the surf in Rehoboth is typically tough because the slope of the beach to the water. There is a pretty drastic drop to the beach so when you backcast, you hit the sand. Unless you spey cast, it can be tough to get any distance. Rehoboth typically fishes ok with bait but you will be working hard blind casting to find random fish in the surf.
4-all the suggestions on intermediate/sinking line are accurate but Rehoboth has a pretty bad beach break-meaning the waves crash right at your feet and you don't really wade out in the surf to fly fish. If decide to fish the surf, definitely bring stripping basket. The waves will tangle the fly line around your feet.
5-if you are interested in wading, I suggest 2 places: https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B041%2729.9%22N+75%C2%B004%2738.3%22W/@38.6916374,-75.0771721,3a,75y,268.63h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0AjGVJtXbaBqUZjvR-SU7g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0AjGVJtXbaBqUZjvR-SU7g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D268.24188%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
In Rehoboth Bay I fished at dusk into swirls that were chasing bait to the surface and got a 18in striper. The water was super shallow and I was using a 7wt, with about a 7 ft sink tip, tan over white clouser with no leaded eyes. Stripping basket not really needed in Rehoboth Bay. You can also blind cast for croakers. The goto fly is a sandcrab imitation. Sparse tan and white with a little bit of flash, tied with orange thread. That style requires a sinking line typically because you are dragging along the bottom to imitate a sand crab and croakers have a subterminal mouth.
https://books.google.com/books?id=09SA7lO-DJwC&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=mouth+of+a+croaker+fish&source=bl&ots=rdDAxWNvGT&sig=X1Gk1lbJcdDsXuGhJ7xlqfT-7Pw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CE4Q6AEwCmoVChMIsJjS_9fExwIVwm8-Ch0hoAXe#v=onepage&q=mouth%20of%20a%20croaker%20fish&f=false

I am lazy and just use floating line with a heavy fly and wait for it to sink. Again Rehoboth Bay is really shallow allow over.

6-my buddy says that stripers are located in and around Burton Island on the north side of the jetty. Typically a kayak or boat will be needed to get out there. He says fish the cuts on the seams during a rising tide.

38.691640, -75.077310

38°41'29.9"N 75°04'38.3"

7-if you have kayak, you can also fish the cape may/lewes ferry wall. https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B047%2704.9%22N+75%C2%B007%2717.2%22W/@38.784689,-75.121459,717m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 Full sink line and cast close to the rocks. I did it the other day but got nothing. Full sink line required.

8-I rarely fish the indian river inlet. Lots of people and tough casting conditions on a fly rod. If you bait/lure fish IRI, be prepared to lose lots of tackle. The rocks capture everything.

8-

or fishing near the old Lewes Fishing Pier that is shutdown for repairs. http://www.destateparks.com/park/cape-henlopen/fishing-center.asp You can wet wade around the pier and cast floating line in there because there is not much depth. I have not tried that yet but plan to this week.

On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 10:15:03 AM UTC-4, Bob Richey wrote:

My wife and I are taking a short vacation to Rehobeth Beach in mid-September. I thought I'd bring along my fly rods and give a shot at fishing the surf. I've never fished salt water before. My idea is to wade out to maybe knee high and chuck some streamers at any structure like piers or jetties and strip it back. Is that doable? Should I be thinking about a sinking line? Obviously, I'm clueless, I'd appreciate any advice on technique, flies and equipment. Thanks.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: South Fork

Hi Bob -- sounds like fun. We do the same thing on floats. The biggest fish I've managed seem to be when I make long casts off of the front of the canoe to structure well before the boat getting there to tip them off. Naive fish act a LOT differently than ones that are even remotely aware of humans/disturbance.

I usually just use 8-10 pound stuff for most flies, but have probably used 4 pound maxima (4x dia) on and off with small streamers, and the 15 pound mono does better with the monster poppers. I find smallmouth to be a lot more sensitive to disturbance than tippet.

Gene

On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:52:14 AM UTC-4, Bob Richey wrote:

For the past two weekends, I've floated the South Fork from mile 13 to 19 and have had pretty good success for late summer. The water's gin clear, so I've gone down to 3x tippet. I've been finding good numbers in the fast water, especially on the lip of riffles. Usually, I switch to a crayfish, or helgramite pattern this late in the summer, but they're still hitting shenks and pearl marauders, so why switch? I did land two 15 inchers in slower water near the bank. Mostly, we paddle down to each riffle, get out and swing some streamers then paddle on to the next riffle. I had started by fishing poppers on the bank, but I kept getting bluegills so I switched over.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} South Fork

For the past two weekends, I've floated the South Fork from mile 13 to 19 and have had pretty good success for late summer. The water's gin clear, so I've gone down to 3x tippet. I've been finding good numbers in the fast water, especially on the lip of riffles. Usually, I switch to a crayfish, or helgramite pattern this late in the summer, but they're still hitting shenks and pearl marauders, so why switch? I did land two 15 inchers in slower water near the bank. Mostly, we paddle down to each riffle, get out and swing some streamers then paddle on to the next riffle. I had started by fishing poppers on the bank, but I kept getting bluegills so I switched over.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Trolling Motor Battery Reccomendation

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On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Connor Donovan <donovac@gmail.com> wrote:

Fellow TPFR-er's,

I'm very tired of rowing through flat water and am looking to buy a trolling motor. Does anyone have recommendations or tips for buying a battery? I honestly have no idea what I should be looking for.

I have a trip down the upper James this weekend and am borrowing a 35 lbs thrust motor. Does battery size matter if I'm not rocking a 50lbs+ pound thrust trolling motor? Or is it a one-size-power's-all type of thing.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Connor

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Trolling Motor Battery Reccomendation

Short version: Yes. Bigger motor = more energy requirements = need bigger battery to use it for a while.

Long version: You'll absolutely want to get a marine deep cycle battery. Do NOT get a cranking battery. A cranking battery is meant for short bursts of high power (cranking your engine). A deep cycle battery is meant for longer cycles of charging and discharging at lower power levels - your trolling motor. You'll possibly also need either two or three batteries depending on your motor. The batteries will basically all be 12V, and a lot of bigger trolling motors are either 24V or 36V, so you'll need to run two or three batteries in series to meet the voltage requirements. If you have a 12V motor, only 1 battery is needed. There are three main acronyms you need to look for with marine batteries - MCA, CCA, and Ah. MCA is marine cranking amps is the number of amps the battery can draw without dropping below a voltage of 1.2V per cell after 30 seconds. CCA is cold cranking amps, which is basically the same thing but at 0*F. Technically, it is the amount of current the battery can deliver at 0*F for 30 seconds without dropping below the cutoff voltage. For both of those, the higher the actual temp, the better performance you'll get. For your trolling motor application, though, the biggest thing you'll need to look at is the Ah, or amp-hour rating. This is how much power is available for you to use. The rating assumes a draw of 10 Amps from your motor. A bigger Ah rating means you can troll for a longer period of time. You'll need to look at the rated current draw of your trolling motor to figure out how long you'll really have. For example, Minn Kota has a 12V 50lb thrust motor that draws 50A. If you get a battery that is rated at 100-Ah, it would be able to deliver 100 minutes at 10 amps. Since it's drawing 50 amps, it'll run for 20 minutes (100 / (50/1)). Of course, that's assuming full charge and you're only using the motor at full blast, and many are variable speed, which means variable energy consumption.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Connor Donovan <donovac@gmail.com> wrote:

Fellow TPFR-er's,

I'm very tired of rowing through flat water and am looking to buy a trolling motor. Does anyone have recommendations or tips for buying a battery? I honestly have no idea what I should be looking for.

I have a trip down the upper James this weekend and am borrowing a 35 lbs thrust motor. Does battery size matter if I'm not rocking a 50lbs+ pound thrust trolling motor? Or is it a one-size-power's-all type of thing.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Connor

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Trolling Motor Battery Reccomendation

Fellow TPFR-er's,

I'm very tired of rowing through flat water and am looking to buy a trolling motor. Does anyone have recommendations or tips for buying a battery? I honestly have no idea what I should be looking for.

I have a trip down the upper James this weekend and am borrowing a 35 lbs thrust motor. Does battery size matter if I'm not rocking a 50lbs+ pound thrust trolling motor? Or is it a one-size-power's-all type of thing.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Connor

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Sunday, 30 August 2015

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Maryland browns

Very nice!

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On Aug 30, 2015, at 5:36 PM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:

Been chasing browns in tailwaters, freestones, and one spring creek the last few weeks. We've had slow, average, and good fishing overall depending on the day. Most everything on the same beetle we use everywhere. Lots of miles on the truck, but who cares?

A lot of these Maryland browns are beautiful fish!

Gene

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Maryland browns

Been chasing browns in tailwaters, freestones, and one spring creek the last few weeks. We've had slow, average, and good fishing overall depending on the day. Most everything on the same beetle we use everywhere. Lots of miles on the truck, but who cares?

A lot of these Maryland browns are beautiful fish!

Gene

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fatty Rainbows on the North Branch of the Potomac River

Great pics. If i may ask, where did you put in and take out at?

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:48 PM Trent Jones <tjones518@hotmail.com> wrote:

Fellow Orvis fishing manager Art Noglak and I made the drive out to western Maryland to float a section of the North Branch of the Potomac with Guide PJ Daley on Wednesday and the trip was awesome. The weather could not have been nicer for August and the fish were hungry.

We put quite a few fat rainbows in the boat as well as a couple of gorgeous Browns. Some of the rainbows looked like they actually had a tennis ball lodged in their belly. Needless to say the rainbows pulled really hard especially in the heavier current. Although we floated the river we took plenty of time to get out and wade productive sections. Double nymph rigs were the ticket all day, although PJ stuck one nice rainbow on a dry.

I wont say the trip wasn't without incident. The landing net broke quite early in the trip making fish landing very interesting, we had a random encounter with some sort of rogue stinging caterpillar, and I spilled almost an entire beer on myself by trying to store it in my chest pocket while I was hooked up to a fish. In regards to the broken net, I am not going to name, names...but it wasn't me...or PJ. I am almost certain Wednesday was the hardest I have ever laughed while on the water!

It is a blessing to have a floatable trout river within driving distance, especially one this beautiful.

Big Thank You to PJ Daley for getting Art and I on some great fish and rowing us down the river!

-Trent

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

Gene,

Thanks for the good info as well as the sarcasm. That hilarious post made my morning!

On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 4:58:53 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

Hey! -- if there's one thing that works well on the internet, it's arrogance with no explanation!

Andrew: So long as you have a valid fishing license, you are well within your right to fish the SNP streams (or lower Rapidan) whenever you feel like it. Virginia DGIF proudly advertises a "year-round" trout fishery, so there's absolutely no legal requirement to avoid fishing the streams when they're low. Hell, I fish 75F water, and straight through the spawn and also stomach pump each and every brook trout to see what they're eating (which is critical to catching SNP brook trout) and because it's fun to make fish barf!

Note that fishing locally really sucks though -- you should pay your left arm to do a bonefish trip once, and then tell everyone at beer tie about ("them big bones I caught like, 8 years ago") and your various reasons for not fishing the rest of the year. "High temperature" is a good start, but don't forget "dry hands". The more arrogant you are about it, the better! You'll fill your dance card!

Gene

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 10:59:13 PM UTC-4, Yambag Nelson wrote:
How about just leaving them alone?

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 8:36:50 PM UTC-4, Andrew Chaney wrote:
After getting skunked at the mid-section of the Rapidan several weeks ago, I decided to hit up the lower portion this afternoon (just north of Graves Mill). The fallfish bite was aggressive. In about an hour of fishing, I caught about a dozen ranging from 6" - 12". However, I saw something concerning that I thought I'd run by here.

In one pool, I saw dozens of fish, about half fallfish, 1/3 brook trout, and the rest miscellaneous. The brook trout were decently sized and they were very sluggish. They just stuck to the bottom of the pool and didn't react to anything. I dropped woolly buggers, prince nymphs, and hare's ear nymphs right in front of their noses and got nothing. At one point, a hare's ear brushed over the back of one of them and it hardly reacted. At another point, I hooked into a 12" fallfish and it darted all over the pool. Again, the brookies barely moved.

So, is this normal behavior for brook trout? Other than their extreme stoicism, there didn't seem to be anything wrong. Is it a late summer temperature thing or something else?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

Hey! -- if there's one thing that works well on the internet, it's arrogance with no explanation!

Gene

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 10:59:13 PM UTC-4, Yambag Nelson wrote:

How about just leaving them alone?

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 8:36:50 PM UTC-4, Andrew Chaney wrote:
After getting skunked at the mid-section of the Rapidan several weeks ago, I decided to hit up the lower portion this afternoon (just north of Graves Mill). The fallfish bite was aggressive. In about an hour of fishing, I caught about a dozen ranging from 6" - 12". However, I saw something concerning that I thought I'd run by here.

In one pool, I saw dozens of fish, about half fallfish, 1/3 brook trout, and the rest miscellaneous. The brook trout were decently sized and they were very sluggish. They just stuck to the bottom of the pool and didn't react to anything. I dropped woolly buggers, prince nymphs, and hare's ear nymphs right in front of their noses and got nothing. At one point, a hare's ear brushed over the back of one of them and it hardly reacted. At another point, I hooked into a 12" fallfish and it darted all over the pool. Again, the brookies barely moved.

So, is this normal behavior for brook trout? Other than their extreme stoicism, there didn't seem to be anything wrong. Is it a late summer temperature thing or something else?

Saturday, 29 August 2015

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Smallmouth this weekend?

Thanks all! Your advice was very helpful -- we ended up rock-hopping down by Weverton and it was a blast.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

How about just leaving them alone?

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 8:36:50 PM UTC-4, Andrew Chaney wrote:

After getting skunked at the mid-section of the Rapidan several weeks ago, I decided to hit up the lower portion this afternoon (just north of Graves Mill). The fallfish bite was aggressive. In about an hour of fishing, I caught about a dozen ranging from 6" - 12". However, I saw something concerning that I thought I'd run by here.

In one pool, I saw dozens of fish, about half fallfish, 1/3 brook trout, and the rest miscellaneous. The brook trout were decently sized and they were very sluggish. They just stuck to the bottom of the pool and didn't react to anything. I dropped woolly buggers, prince nymphs, and hare's ear nymphs right in front of their noses and got nothing. At one point, a hare's ear brushed over the back of one of them and it hardly reacted. At another point, I hooked into a 12" fallfish and it darted all over the pool. Again, the brookies barely moved.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

Folks. Stupid phone.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

Normal, don't worry. Low flows are tough. You might try tailwaters or spring creeks until flows come back up. Warm water fishes great at lower flows too. Got tons of white perch busting bait earlier today, and fold are tearing up smallies.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Brookies (or the lack thereof) at the Rapidan River

After getting skunked at the mid-section of the Rapidan several weeks ago, I decided to hit up the lower portion this afternoon (just north of Graves Mill). The fallfish bite was aggressive. In about an hour of fishing, I caught about a dozen ranging from 6" - 12". However, I saw something concerning that I thought I'd run by here.

In one pool, I saw dozens of fish, about half fallfish, 1/3 brook trout, and the rest miscellaneous. The brook trout were decently sized and they were very sluggish. They just stuck to the bottom of the pool and didn't react to anything. I dropped woolly buggers, prince nymphs, and hare's ear nymphs right in front of their noses and got nothing. At one point, a hare's ear brushed over the back of one of them and it hardly reacted. At another point, I hooked into a 12" fallfish and it darted all over the pool. Again, the brookies barely moved.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Just Tied A Bunch of Shenk's White Streamers

I've been catching 12-18" range for last 2 weeks on an outgoing tide @ Little Hunting Creek (under the bridge). You'll know they are there when you start hearing them feed. Hear about the kid that drown at the same spot?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fatty Rainbows on the North Branch of the Potomac River

Next time bring duct tape

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tip section of fly rod found in parking lot off Beaver Creek Road (MD)

Ah, that was a rainbow! This confirms it -- Beth swore she was casting at this 14" rainbow for a while (to no avail), but me being an idiot said "oh there's only browns and a few brookies in here". I just read the MD website briefly -

Good to know! She's almost always right; I don't know why I'm always an idiot and swear that I'm right.

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:21:52 PM UTC-4, Dalton Terrell wrote:

The real trash in BHC are those rainbows that TU stocks every Spring.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tip section of fly rod found in parking lot off Beaver Creek Road (MD)

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tip section of fly rod found in parking lot off Beaver Creek Road (MD)

Very nice!

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:15:15 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the info.

One man's trash is another man's treasure. ;-)

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:08:49 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
No, we were there this morning but suddenly had to make a trip to the bow shop to restring Beth's compound so she can go elk hunting in a couple of weeks.

We had never been there before, but it was obviously pretty low like we pretty much expected. Got a few 8" browns, a few more 3-4" browns (1 in the pants), and Beth played around with about a 14" riser for a bit -- but then we left. I wasn't overly impressed with the obnoxious amount of traffic on 77, though I could see it being somewhat fun when levels are better.

Browns are worthless trash from an ecological point of view, but I really really enjoy fishing for them ;). Life is full of these contradictions.

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
Gene: I haven't fished Big Hunting Creek, yet. Have you encounter brookies there?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:59:09 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Oh, I thought it was some landmark out there or something ;). Gotcha --

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:56:05 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
"I don't know three-point"

Sorry, that was a basketball reference used in an attempt at a bad joke. :)

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
I don't know three-point -- Did the stretch from that insanely busy hwy up to penile bridge. I don't know the place too well -- first time at BHC. It's low as all heck, but merits a return when flows are better. If anyone wants a brown trout down their trousers, here's how:

1. Fish a barbless tiemco 103BL hook
2. Be hyper-active (no problem for me)
3. Drink 2 cups of coffee before the trip
4. Only present dry flies well enough to catch small fish (no problem for me)

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:46:21 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
Glad to have reported it. Just hope the poor soul sees this post before they go out to their next fishing spot and discovers they only have n-1 sections of their rod available. :-/

Nice job setting the hook! Was it from 3 point range?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 1:02:20 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Nice Chris! You're a good dude.

On an geographically-related note, I just accidentally flung a brown trout down the front of my pants on Big Hunting Creek, (md) on a hook set. Luckily, I was wearing a wader belt so he didn't make it too far.

Hey -- there's always a first!

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:20:27 AM UTC-4, Chris Zogby wrote:
Just a FYI: Was at Beaver Creek yesterday afternoon and found an intact tip section of a fly rod in the parking lot off Beaver Creek Road. Stuck it in the mounted coat rack thingie outside the front door of Beaver Creek Fly Shop (http://beavercreekflyshop.com). I emailed the fly shop owner that I placed the fly rod section in the said location.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tip section of fly rod found in parking lot off Beaver Creek Road (MD)

Thanks for the info.

One man's trash is another man's treasure. ;-)

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:08:49 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

No, we were there this morning but suddenly had to make a trip to the bow shop to restring Beth's compound so she can go elk hunting in a couple of weeks.

We had never been there before, but it was obviously pretty low like we pretty much expected. Got a few 8" browns, a few more 3-4" browns (1 in the pants), and Beth played around with about a 14" riser for a bit -- but then we left. I wasn't overly impressed with the obnoxious amount of traffic on 77, though I could see it being somewhat fun when levels are better.

Browns are worthless trash from an ecological point of view, but I really really enjoy fishing for them ;). Life is full of these contradictions.

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
Gene: I haven't fished Big Hunting Creek, yet. Have you encounter brookies there?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:59:09 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Oh, I thought it was some landmark out there or something ;). Gotcha --

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:56:05 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
"I don't know three-point"

Sorry, that was a basketball reference used in an attempt at a bad joke. :)

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
I don't know three-point -- Did the stretch from that insanely busy hwy up to penile bridge. I don't know the place too well -- first time at BHC. It's low as all heck, but merits a return when flows are better. If anyone wants a brown trout down their trousers, here's how:

1. Fish a barbless tiemco 103BL hook
2. Be hyper-active (no problem for me)
3. Drink 2 cups of coffee before the trip
4. Only present dry flies well enough to catch small fish (no problem for me)

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:46:21 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
Glad to have reported it. Just hope the poor soul sees this post before they go out to their next fishing spot and discovers they only have n-1 sections of their rod available. :-/

Nice job setting the hook! Was it from 3 point range?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 1:02:20 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Nice Chris! You're a good dude.

On an geographically-related note, I just accidentally flung a brown trout down the front of my pants on Big Hunting Creek, (md) on a hook set. Luckily, I was wearing a wader belt so he didn't make it too far.

Hey -- there's always a first!

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:20:27 AM UTC-4, Chris Zogby wrote:
Just a FYI: Was at Beaver Creek yesterday afternoon and found an intact tip section of a fly rod in the parking lot off Beaver Creek Road. Stuck it in the mounted coat rack thingie outside the front door of Beaver Creek Fly Shop (http://beavercreekflyshop.com). I emailed the fly shop owner that I placed the fly rod section in the said location.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tip section of fly rod found in parking lot off Beaver Creek Road (MD)

No, we were there this morning but suddenly had to make a trip to the bow shop to restring Beth's compound so she can go elk hunting in a couple of weeks.

We had never been there before, but it was obviously pretty low like we pretty much expected. Got a few 8" browns, a few more 3-4" browns (1 in the pants), and Beth played around with about a 14" riser for a bit -- but then we left. I wasn't overly impressed with the obnoxious amount of traffic on 77, though I could see it being somewhat fun when levels are better.

Browns are worthless trash from an ecological point of view, but I really really enjoy fishing for them ;). Life is full of these contradictions.

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:

Gene: I haven't fished Big Hunting Creek, yet. Have you encounter brookies there?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:59:09 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Oh, I thought it was some landmark out there or something ;). Gotcha --

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:56:05 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
"I don't know three-point"

Sorry, that was a basketball reference used in an attempt at a bad joke. :)

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:52:05 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
I don't know three-point -- Did the stretch from that insanely busy hwy up to penile bridge. I don't know the place too well -- first time at BHC. It's low as all heck, but merits a return when flows are better. If anyone wants a brown trout down their trousers, here's how:

1. Fish a barbless tiemco 103BL hook
2. Be hyper-active (no problem for me)
3. Drink 2 cups of coffee before the trip
4. Only present dry flies well enough to catch small fish (no problem for me)

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:46:21 PM UTC-4, zogby...@gmail.com wrote:
Glad to have reported it. Just hope the poor soul sees this post before they go out to their next fishing spot and discovers they only have n-1 sections of their rod available. :-/

Nice job setting the hook! Was it from 3 point range?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 1:02:20 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Nice Chris! You're a good dude.

On an geographically-related note, I just accidentally flung a brown trout down the front of my pants on Big Hunting Creek, (md) on a hook set. Luckily, I was wearing a wader belt so he didn't make it too far.

Hey -- there's always a first!

Gene

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:20:27 AM UTC-4, Chris Zogby wrote:
Just a FYI: Was at Beaver Creek yesterday afternoon and found an intact tip section of a fly rod in the parking lot off Beaver Creek Road. Stuck it in the mounted coat rack thingie outside the front door of Beaver Creek Fly Shop (http://beavercreekflyshop.com). I emailed the fly shop owner that I placed the fly rod section in the said location.

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