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Thursday, 31 July 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Beaverdam Reservoir update....

Great article!

http://www.loudountimes.com/news/articl … e_crowd433

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Beaverdam Reservoir update....

Thank you so much for going, and for providing this report. I'm sorry I was unable to attend as I had intended to do. Work took me out of town and I was unable to return in time.

I find it interesting that they focused on gangs, teenage swimmers, and graffiti. Their initial statements to the press made it sound like this was all about public safety and repairs to critical county infrastructure. I assumed that the repairs to infrastructure created new presumed and overblown threats to public safety, and they were closing the area for a few years, which was bad enough. But here it sounds suspiciously like they just plan to keep teenage swimmers, dog walkers, gangs, picnickers, fisherman, kayakers, bikers, joggers, and other miscreant riffraff out of the area, permanently. I hope that is not true and/or they are not successful. Meanwhile it's kind of depressing, except for the part about how you and all these people showed up to represent some common sense.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Beaverdam Reservoir update....

The meeting went well but we must remember that we are dealing with a monopoly. That is how they think and act.

Lots of people showed up...more than normally attend a LoCo Board of Supervisors meeting. This was definitely noticed.

In attendance: 2 LoCo Supervisors, a rep from the Chairman's office, the former chair of DGIF, members (20+) of the Stone Bridge rowing team, a LoWa board member and 50 or so great citizens of Loudoun.

Many great comments were made as well as many questions (which they could not answer).

LoWa was unprepared for the quality of constituent that was in attendance. We were informed and armed with great info. They kept taking about teenagers swimming, gangs and graffiti. They focused on the bad...which will ahppen if no one is around anyway.

I don't know if we changed anything but the pressure was definitely on them. The LoCo BOS is also going to keep the pressure on as they were impressed with the passion we have for this great resource.

We will update on any future meetings....lots still needs to be done.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Stream Thermometer

All,

Does anyone have experience with digital thermometers while on the water? I'm looking at a few under $20 on Amazon - both infrared and digital cooking ones.

Feel free to call me out if I'm over complicating things but I feel like the instant reading would be a nice feature even if it is a little bulkier than a glass/plastic tradition thermometer.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Connor

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} filming on Tidal Basin for Nat Geo / PBS Special on National Mall

Hi All -

The company I work for is producing a one-hour PBS / Nat Geo Special on the Washington Mall. The doc will cover the Mall's origins and how it has transformed over the last 200 years. We are adding bits throughout about how people use the Mall on a daily basis and we wanted to make sure that we film some of the fishing that goes on in the Tidal Basin and along the Potomac. Please let me know if you are heading down to the Tidal Basin at dawn or dusk anytime over the next couple of weeks (especially over the next week) and don't mind being filmed.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you are heading down.

Best,

Isham

202.315.8141

ishamrandolph@gmail.com

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

those are awesome pictures.

I am indifferent on the hat

On Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:53:59 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:

LOL!

I'm with you, Rich. ;-)

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

LOL!

I'm with you, Rich. ;-)

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Louisiana Redfish

I second the hat h8ing. Solid pheesh.

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:22:21 AM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

I went down to New Orleans last weekend, and as I've been making a habit, I went down a day early to get some fishing in. I ended up catching five redfish, two of which were pretty hefty ~30 inch fish, but none were small. I saw a few gar, and I got a nice black drum to eat but I didn't realize he actually ate (I thought it was the bottom) so I didn't set the hook. I had a shot at an ENORMOUS redfish, but blew it. The guide thought it was a shark at first. My cast was off about 2 feet to the left of where it needed to be, and by the time I stripped it into position, it was ten feet from the boat. It went to eat it, but saw us at the last second and spooked. Still a great trip. I'm going back for three days of fishing in September, so I'll have to work on my accuracy with a weighted fly between now and then.

A few of the pictures the guide took are attached. I was wearing my GoPro so I have the two bigger fish on video, but took it off mid-day because I started getting the line a little tangled up in it. I haven't processed the video yet, but will share once I do.

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Wednesday, 30 July 2014

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Another Carp Story

You should be fine with a 6. I've used it before there. I was using a 7 in that video. As far as spots, it's hard to "hot spot" the canal even if one wanted to because fish could literally be anywhere. I believe I was between lock 7 and 8, but may have been between 6 and 7 as well. At least a few weeks ago, the green surface "mat" thinned out and disappeared if you walked about a half mile below lock 7. As you're fishing, just keep in mind the little access points down to the canal level. You'll see them - they're cut outs into the side. Just fight the fish towards one of them and you can get to the water. Sometimes there's a pretty long ways between those cut downs. I try to avoid casting to fish in those situations because landing them would be so difficult or I'd have to drag them (in the water) a really long ways, and I just don't feel good about that.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Chuq Yang <chuqyang@gmail.com> wrote:

Jeff,
Great video. That's much better editing than I would have done. I was at Lock 7 today tossing some buggy looking flies, and had a carp inhale my fly, and then spit it right out. I then proceeded to spook the three others there when I got so excited. Anyway, do you think a 6wt (my biggest rod) is too small for landing a carp there? It looks like your setup was bigger, but it could be the fish eye lens on the GoPro. Also, it seems that right around lock 7, there is the pool above the lock that doesn't have all the green stuff on top like below the lock. I also didn't see anywhere that I would even be able to get close enough to the water to net a carp. I'm not trying to hotspot your fishing hole, but where abouts was the video filmed? It looked like a pretty decent place to get close to the water there, but I didn't see anywhere like that immediately around lock 7.

Thanks.

Chuq

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:01:03 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:

Amen on the rarely getting a second chance part. But that's what kept me at it on Sunday instead of wading the river. ;-)

As for flies, I got some good looks and missed (all) strikes (klutz) with Carp Carrots and Bristle Leeches. You can find tying instructions via a Google search. Same flies should work well for panfish on vacation in 4 weeks.

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Another Carp Story

Jeff,

Great video. That's much better editing than I would have done. I was at Lock 7 today tossing some buggy looking flies, and had a carp inhale my fly, and then spit it right out. I then proceeded to spook the three others there when I got so excited. Anyway, do you think a 6wt (my biggest rod) is too small for landing a carp there? It looks like your setup was bigger, but it could be the fish eye lens on the GoPro. Also, it seems that right around lock 7, there is the pool above the lock that doesn't have all the green stuff on top like below the lock. I also didn't see anywhere that I would even be able to get close enough to the water to net a carp. I'm not trying to hotspot your fishing hole, but where abouts was the video filmed? It looked like a pretty decent place to get close to the water there, but I didn't see anywhere like that immediately around lock 7.

Thanks.

Chuq

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:01:03 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:

Amen on the rarely getting a second chance part. But that's what kept me at it on Sunday instead of wading the river. ;-)

As for flies, I got some good looks and missed (all) strikes (klutz) with Carp Carrots and Bristle Leeches. You can find tying instructions via a Google search. Same flies should work well for panfish on vacation in 4 weeks.

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

Lacy Act trumps state regs http://www.fws.gov/international/laws-treaties-agreements/us-conservation-laws/lacey-act.html

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On Jul 30, 2014, at 3:34 PM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:

I know this is true and that we are just discussing the facts, but $250,000? What was calculated that led to this amount?

The maximum penalty for driving drunk in VA is $300 minus court-ordered restitution -- http://www.dmv.org/va-virginia/automotive-law/dui.php

(Disclaimer: I am not interested in possessing a live NSH for any reason whatsoever)

Gene

On Monday, July 28, 2014 1:33:06 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
Hi -- I managed to catch another (small) NSH yesterday which I dispatched immediately upon landing. After doing so, I couldn't help but think that this is really just a knee-jerk reaction vs. an actual management tool. I've seen more NSH this year than I ever have before and I doubt they're going anywhere.

So, is everyone just doing this because it seemed like a good idea when the problem was first recognized, or is there any good reason to continue going out of our way to kill these things vs. just turning them loose?

Gene

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

I know this is true and that we are just discussing the facts, but $250,000? What was calculated that led to this amount?

The maximum penalty for driving drunk in VA is $300 minus court-ordered restitution -- http://www.dmv.org/va-virginia/automotive-law/dui.php

(Disclaimer: I am not interested in possessing a live NSH for any reason whatsoever)

Gene

On Monday, July 28, 2014 1:33:06 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

Hi -- I managed to catch another (small) NSH yesterday which I dispatched immediately upon landing. After doing so, I couldn't help but think that this is really just a knee-jerk reaction vs. an actual management tool. I've seen more NSH this year than I ever have before and I doubt they're going anywhere.

So, is everyone just doing this because it seemed like a good idea when the problem was first recognized, or is there any good reason to continue going out of our way to kill these things vs. just turning them loose?

Gene

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

Yea that is a pretty steep fine!

but that lets the public know their serious and hopefully will prevent the spread of the NSH to other waters

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:55:51 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:

Make sure you throw weedless. Most of the spots are choked out with milfoil/hydrilla right now. And on the possession bit, DNR stated at the above mentioned tourney that the fine for possessing a live snakehead is $250,000.00

Rob Snowhite

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

interesting time for this topic for me. After fishing in the Snakehead Tournament with the Urban Angler team (thanks be to Richard!!) I am now 'addicted' to trying to catch one on the fly. This weekend I will be hitting up some of the local NSH supposed hotspots sat/sun and plan on throwing dahlbergs/ deerhair poppers/ frog patterns.
does anyone have any other pattern suggestions that have been successful for catching a NSH?
My father is coming into town and after me telling him all about the snakehead he's done a lot of reading on them and he's hooked on the idea of catching one as well. (pun intended)

Davis

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:36:16 AM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:
After discussions with DC Park Police, VA & MD fish & game enforcement officers, the key word in the regulations is "possession". It is a loosely defined word, but all 3 agencies consider possession to fall under the intent once a NSH is caught. Simply holding a fish up for a photo is not possession. Placing the fish on any part of what you are fishing from DOES equate to possession though… so that means if you release it in the water you're fine, but if you put it on the deck of your boat or kayak or haul it up on the bank, it's considered in your possession and no NSH may be in your possession alive.

R

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

No need to kill them unless you want to eat them. Here are the rules:

It is against Maryland, Virginia, and federal laws to possess, import, or transport live Northern Snakehead.
If you catch a snakehead and want to keep it, you must immediately kill the fish by removing its head, gutting it or removing its gill arches. The capture and possession of dead snakeheads is not subject to any season, creel limit or size limit.
Please note the work "IF". You can release them alive. From experience, they are an incredible target. And they are tasty.
Ernie
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

The guide was Rocky Thickstun (Salty Fly Louisiana). I typically use Greg Moon (Louisiana Fly Fishing Charters), but he wasn't available so he set me up with Rocky. They're friends and toss trips to each other if they are booked and the other is free. I highly recommend both. They also both have great reputations among guides down there as well. If you're thinking of going, plan way ahead. You might get lucky on short notice due to a cancellation, but these guys typically book up a year in advance - particularly for good tide days - during fall season, and several months ahead for a lot of the winter and spring.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Scott Stankus <sstankus@gmail.com> wrote:

Awesome fish - sounds like a great trip! If you don't mind sharing, who was the guide? And would you recommend him/her?

--Scott

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:

I went down to New Orleans last weekend, and as I've been making a habit, I went down a day early to get some fishing in. I ended up catching five redfish, two of which were pretty hefty ~30 inch fish, but none were small. I saw a few gar, and I got a nice black drum to eat but I didn't realize he actually ate (I thought it was the bottom) so I didn't set the hook. I had a shot at an ENORMOUS redfish, but blew it. The guide thought it was a shark at first. My cast was off about 2 feet to the left of where it needed to be, and by the time I stripped it into position, it was ten feet from the boat. It went to eat it, but saw us at the last second and spooked. Still a great trip. I'm going back for three days of fishing in September, so I'll have to work on my accuracy with a weighted fly between now and then.

A few of the pictures the guide took are attached. I was wearing my GoPro so I have the two bigger fish on video, but took it off mid-day because I started getting the line a little tangled up in it. I haven't processed the video yet, but will share once I do.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

Awesome fish - sounds like a great trip! If you don't mind sharing, who was the guide? And would you recommend him/her?

--Scott

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:

I went down to New Orleans last weekend, and as I've been making a habit, I went down a day early to get some fishing in. I ended up catching five redfish, two of which were pretty hefty ~30 inch fish, but none were small. I saw a few gar, and I got a nice black drum to eat but I didn't realize he actually ate (I thought it was the bottom) so I didn't set the hook. I had a shot at an ENORMOUS redfish, but blew it. The guide thought it was a shark at first. My cast was off about 2 feet to the left of where it needed to be, and by the time I stripped it into position, it was ten feet from the boat. It went to eat it, but saw us at the last second and spooked. Still a great trip. I'm going back for three days of fishing in September, so I'll have to work on my accuracy with a weighted fly between now and then.

A few of the pictures the guide took are attached. I was wearing my GoPro so I have the two bigger fish on video, but took it off mid-day because I started getting the line a little tangled up in it. I haven't processed the video yet, but will share once I do.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

Beautiful fish Jeff! I hope to one day get into a big one like that --

Gene

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:56:16 AM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:

Nice report. Love the fish, hate the hat ;)

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

I went down to New Orleans last weekend, and as I've been making a habit, I went down a day early to get some fishing in. I ended up catching five redfish, two of which were pretty hefty ~30 inch fish, but none were small. I saw a few gar, and I got a nice black drum to eat but I didn't realize he actually ate (I thought it was the bottom) so I didn't set the hook. I had a shot at an ENORMOUS redfish, but blew it. The guide thought it was a shark at first. My cast was off about 2 feet to the left of where it needed to be, and by the time I stripped it into position, it was ten feet from the boat. It went to eat it, but saw us at the last second and spooked. Still a great trip. I'm going back for three days of fishing in September, so I'll have to work on my accuracy with a weighted fly between now and then.

A few of the pictures the guide took are attached. I was wearing my GoPro so I have the two bigger fish on video, but took it off mid-day because I started getting the line a little tangled up in it. I haven't processed the video yet, but will share once I do.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

Nice report. Love the fish, hate the hat ;)

Richard Farino

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Louisiana Redfish

I went down to New Orleans last weekend, and as I've been making a habit, I went down a day early to get some fishing in. I ended up catching five redfish, two of which were pretty hefty ~30 inch fish, but none were small. I saw a few gar, and I got a nice black drum to eat but I didn't realize he actually ate (I thought it was the bottom) so I didn't set the hook. I had a shot at an ENORMOUS redfish, but blew it. The guide thought it was a shark at first. My cast was off about 2 feet to the left of where it needed to be, and by the time I stripped it into position, it was ten feet from the boat. It went to eat it, but saw us at the last second and spooked. Still a great trip. I'm going back for three days of fishing in September, so I'll have to work on my accuracy with a weighted fly between now and then.

A few of the pictures the guide took are attached. I was wearing my GoPro so I have the two bigger fish on video, but took it off mid-day because I started getting the line a little tangled up in it. I haven't processed the video yet, but will share once I do.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Owens Creek

I haven't fished Owens Creek that much, but the Greendrake and Elbow pools on Big Hunting Creek are pretty easy to access and are productive - maybe a 100 yd or so walk down a well used path. There is a moderate hill but no rock hopping like in the Gorge section. The Culvert Pool at the intersection of 77 and Catoctin Hollow Rd is also fairly easy to access.

On Monday, July 28, 2014 9:28:46 AM UTC-4, Robert Shane wrote:

Fished for about two hours on Owens Creek up at the Roddy Rd Covered bridge. Hooked into two decent trout but didn't land any. Spotted a bunch of trout (and suckers) right there below the bridge. Water was very low, slow and clear; as to be expected in July.

I noticed as we were driving looking for other holes to fish there aren't a ton of access points to the creek and very limited parking. Does anyone know of anywhere other than here to stop and fish that don't require a ton of wading down the creek? I have bad knees and it's tough for me to walk too far.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

Make sure you throw weedless. Most of the spots are choked out with milfoil/hydrilla right now. And on the possession bit, DNR stated at the above mentioned tourney that the fine for possessing a live snakehead is $250,000.00

Rob Snowhite

From: D. Walker <williamdaviswalker@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

interesting time for this topic for me. After fishing in the Snakehead Tournament with the Urban Angler team (thanks be to Richard!!) I am now 'addicted' to trying to catch one on the fly. This weekend I will be hitting up some of the local NSH supposed hotspots sat/sun and plan on throwing dahlbergs/ deerhair poppers/ frog patterns.

does anyone have any other pattern suggestions that have been successful for catching a NSH?

My father is coming into town and after me telling him all about the snakehead he's done a lot of reading on them and he's hooked on the idea of catching one as well. (pun intended)

Davis

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:36:16 AM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:

After discussions with DC Park Police, VA & MD fish & game enforcement officers, the key word in the regulations is "possession". It is a loosely defined word, but all 3 agencies consider possession to fall under the intent once a NSH is caught. Simply holding a fish up for a photo is not possession. Placing the fish on any part of what you are fishing from DOES equate to possession though… so that means if you release it in the water you're fine, but if you put it on the deck of your boat or kayak or haul it up on the bank, it's considered in your possession and no NSH may be in your possession alive.

R

Richard Farino
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

No need to kill them unless you want to eat them. Here are the rules:

It is against Maryland, Virginia, and federal laws to possess, import, or transport live Northern Snakehead.
If you catch a snakehead and want to keep it, you must immediately kill the fish by removing its head, gutting it or removing its gill arches. The capture and possession of dead snakeheads is not subject to any season, creel limit or size limit.
Please note the work "IF". You can release them alive. From experience, they are an incredible target. And they are tasty.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Beth first redfish, tough fishing

Cool report, nice drum! Did you fish with a guide? If so, do you mind saying who? Obviously, it was a tough day, but I'd be interested in knowing if you'd recommend him. I'll be down there from Sept 13-20.

Thanks,

Tom

On Monday, July 28, 2014 8:38:00 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

Hey -- Almost exactly 1 year ago we attempted a trip to NC to cast to redfish and though I managed one small one, I found the skill level for sight-casting with a long leader/heavy fly/wind to be above me and it was a very humbling experience. Having decided to slay monsters, we made a return trip this past weekend to give it a try again. On the positive side, Bethy managed a very pretty first redfish with a good "dog walking" on a topwater. I was really happy to see her get one! Another huge positive for me was finding that the casting/presentation was much, much easier this year. I was actually convinced that the prepackaged 10' leader was closer to a 6' leader because it was so much easier to pick up and lay out in the breeze vs. what I recalled very vividly from last year. It just felt that much different --

The negative side, was that even though we casted to many pushes, schools of 15-30+ reds, solo fish, nervous water, bait scattering, productive points off of oyster beds, etc. -- we just couldn't draw strikes from the suckers. I mean, stripping a fly through some of those spots I was ready to strip-strike hard enough to break ribs, but it never came! Even tossing 'go to' surface plugs with spinning tackle (which will apparently often get strikes when no fly will) failed to produce anything until the monster, toilet-flush hit Bethy got in the afternoon right off of the front of the boat. So it was a very, unusually slow day and other guys fishing flounder, etc. seemed to report similar results. Weather? I dunno -- just a tough day.

So I'm determined to eventually drive down there and have one of those can't-do-wrong days with redfish, but it'll have to wait a bit longer. I love those fish -- they (to me) look a lot like carp, and they have friendly-looking mouths. I just think they're neat -- and that's enough.

The next morning (back in town here) I did manage one NSH which I mentioned in another post. Win some, lose some. Beth won, and that's worth a lot ;).

Gene

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

Everyone has an opinion on it, but I think fly pattern makes almost, but not entirely, no difference whatsoever. Any small-medium streamer works best for me -- just keep a few of various weights so you can get down quickly or not if you need to.

To me, the bigger challenge is keeping the fish from knowing you're there (sneak up in a kayak, or do like I do at Mossy Creek and wear a cowsuit) and then finding one that is actually feeding and not just loafing around like an idiot. I'd bet my life that those 2 things are 98% of it. Once they see you, you're pretty much out of luck.

Gene

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:42:22 AM UTC-4, D. Walker wrote:

interesting time for this topic for me. After fishing in the Snakehead Tournament with the Urban Angler team (thanks be to Richard!!) I am now 'addicted' to trying to catch one on the fly. This weekend I will be hitting up some of the local NSH supposed hotspots sat/sun and plan on throwing dahlbergs/ deerhair poppers/ frog patterns.
does anyone have any other pattern suggestions that have been successful for catching a NSH?
My father is coming into town and after me telling him all about the snakehead he's done a lot of reading on them and he's hooked on the idea of catching one as well. (pun intended)

Davis

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:36:16 AM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:
After discussions with DC Park Police, VA & MD fish & game enforcement officers, the key word in the regulations is "possession". It is a loosely defined word, but all 3 agencies consider possession to fall under the intent once a NSH is caught. Simply holding a fish up for a photo is not possession. Placing the fish on any part of what you are fishing from DOES equate to possession though… so that means if you release it in the water you're fine, but if you put it on the deck of your boat or kayak or haul it up on the bank, it's considered in your possession and no NSH may be in your possession alive.

R

Richard Farino
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Date: Monday, July 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM
To: <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is there any point to killing snakehead caught rod-n-reel anymore?

No need to kill them unless you want to eat them. Here are the rules:

It is against Maryland, Virginia, and federal laws to possess, import, or transport live Northern Snakehead.
If you catch a snakehead and want to keep it, you must immediately kill the fish by removing its head, gutting it or removing its gill arches. The capture and possession of dead snakeheads is not subject to any season, creel limit or size limit.
Please note the work "IF". You can release them alive. From experience, they are an incredible target. And they are tasty.
Ernie
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