Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders

Wednesday, 29 May 2019

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Aloha and introduction

Hi non Hawaiian here who has fished Oahu with guide and DIY. My last trip in Nov i actually caught DIY and did not with guide and boat. Winds were wrong for some of the flats and we lost sun. So if you are going to Oahu to see sights (eg pearl) I would add a DIY trip to flats near Hawaii Kai for a couple hours and let your family play on beach (or Hanauma Bay). Otherwise I endorse your SUP idea. I defer to native knowledge on Molokai and think that sounds tempting. I just would not make a special trip to Oahu only to fish. And certainly not without a guide. You are catching in civilization. Which itself is fun but not a special trip fun. As for DIY for bones think big heavy mantis shrimp. Trevally will eat striper food. Big baitfish (black, blue, white, flash). Tight lines.

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Tuesday, 28 May 2019

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

I've been looking into getting this SUP for maybe this summer or fall. Seems like it has features built to slap on a trolling motor to clear more water.

https://tahoesup.com/touring-stand-up-paddle-board/12-fish-stalker-inflatable-standup-paddle-board

Respectfully,

Ethan Do

On May 29, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Andrew Sarcinello <andysarce@gmail.com> wrote:

I think you'd have trouble at Riverbend trying to head upstream on a SUP. However if you wanted to hike upstream a bit and then fish back down, without attempting to cross currents or go upstream, you'd be OK. Maybe I just need more practice but it seems hard to change drift line in fast water. Monocacy would be great though - I wanted to try that last year, but it was running 10X the level I like to fish it all of last summer and fall.

You can also get creative and use it to float some really small creeks, it's good to use to cover water and hit the good spots and just blast through all the shallow water in between. Have to watch out for fallen trees and sharp bends though. I tried it on Deer Creek in MD last year and had trouble keeping my balance going around bends (while sitting on cooler to paddle - I actually didn't stand up at all that trip). If you don't attach the large center fin on the back, you can pass through riffles and flat water that is only 6 inches deep. My friend in a kayak on that trip bottomed out and had to drag many times, but I rarely had that problem.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

I think you'd have trouble at Riverbend trying to head upstream on a SUP. However if you wanted to hike upstream a bit and then fish back down, without attempting to cross currents or go upstream, you'd be OK. Maybe I just need more practice but it seems hard to change drift line in fast water. Monocacy would be great though - I wanted to try that last year, but it was running 10X the level I like to fish it all of last summer and fall.

You can also get creative and use it to float some really small creeks, it's good to use to cover water and hit the good spots and just blast through all the shallow water in between. Have to watch out for fallen trees and sharp bends though. I tried it on Deer Creek in MD last year and had trouble keeping my balance going around bends (while sitting on cooler to paddle - I actually didn't stand up at all that trip). If you don't attach the large center fin on the back, you can pass through riffles and flat water that is only 6 inches deep. My friend in a kayak on that trip bottomed out and had to drag many times, but I rarely had that problem.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Aloha and introduction

Thanks Nate... Great feedback. I will let you know if I end up deciding to peel off for a day in Molokai or Oahu, but I may end up throwing streamers for the ocassional trevally or DIY fishing on my infaltable SUP closer to where I am staying given the wife and kids angle. Hope you are finding your way around the fishing locally!

On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 1:08:17 AM UTC-4, Nathan Miller wrote:

Hey Nick, most of the bonefish flats are on Oahu and Molokai. There are one or two very small flats on Kauai. I have also seen videos of people catching bonefish on Maui but this is mostly blind casting. If you really want a good shot at a bone I would consider a day trip to either Oahu or Molokai. For a real adventure I'd suggest Molokai because of how incredibly remote it feels and how much less educated the fish are there (if it's on it's incredible) however it is extremely tide dependent and if the tides are wrong you may see very little. Oahu on the other hand is much more accessible and almost feels like urban fishing. The fish are always to be found but can be insanely spooky. Let me know if you're interested in a guide and I can give you some names. You can of course throw streamers from any shoreline and likely catch small trevally or goatfish.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 5:04 PM Nick <nfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome. Where did you fish in Hawaii? I will be in Maui and Kauai this summer and going to bring the fly rod.

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 3:59:15 PM UTC-4, Nathan Miller wrote:
Aloha all, I am new to northern Virginia and just thought I would drop a line and introduce myself. I moved here from Hawaii this past January where I have been chasing bonefish for the past six years, and I am stoked about getting into all the mid-atlantic has to offer for fly fishing. Hoping to meet some similarly obsessed fisherman and plan some trips for this summer; I have drift boat if anybody is interested in going after smallmouth this summer once the water levels come down. I'll be at the next beer tie work schedule allowing. Thanks for reading, hope everyone has a good weekend!

Nathan

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

Wow those are some really awesome options. Thanks everybody! I have to admit, those Flycraft products look pretty freaking sweet. But more expensive than I was thinking of spending. And more than I need. But one day...

Most of the fishing I do is within an hour or so of DC, so I like the idea of a SUP and its quick assembly. Also, the investment is pretty good. Plus my wife, who has no interest in fishing, could use it. When you talk about current, what would be too much? Could it handle up north of Riverbend Park in the summer when the water is low—at least cross-crossing to find spots (I'm sure it'd probably go all over in the main current)? Or is it better in something like the Monocacy where the current is general a lot more slow (from what I've seen. I'm not an expert on that water). I'm not looking to go through rapids or anything—just thinking of the conditions I'm most likely to to experience here.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

Coming from CO, pack rafting is starting to get popular. There are a few brands ranging from 3-10lbs. I have been keeping my eye on the Kokopelli products. They're legit. My buddy has a Supai at a lower price point.

https://www.airkayaks.com/sale-2018-kokopelli-nirvana-9-5-lb-inflatable-whitewater-packraft-with-spraydeck/?sku=KOK-NSD-18-Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuLPnBRDjARIsACDzGL3w2SQc0gSTA4u9us4XFWzQM-4uZN1s0_0021vHJIqlnGwmDSfcwMsaApBqEALw_wcB

David

On Tue, May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM Connor Donovan <donovac@gmail.com> wrote:

A watermaster or some sort of one-person cataraft/pontoon may be a good fit too. They are inflatable with frames or oars that break down and are fairly stable. They aren't the greatest for trying to crank out river miles but for shorter flat water trips or ponds and lakes, you'd be golden.

I bet you can find a good deal on a used one if you keep your eye on CL.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 2:23:05 PM UTC-4, Dalton Terrell wrote:
Hi Jamie,

My wife got me an inflatable paddleboard last Christmas that I've been keeping at my in-laws in Southwest Florida. I've spent six or seven full days on the water now and love it--my board is 11'6" x 34" and is quite stable, I'd say the same or more stability as a large-ish canoe, and quite a bit more stable than any kayak I've been in. It's a bit of a pain to hand pump, doable but not fun, but luckily I got a package deal with electric pump that uses a car cigarette lighter. If you're getting one, I'd look at models 33-36" wide to get sufficient stability. I've been on hard SUPs that are 28" or 30" wide and they are super sketchy for me without even fishing.

I've used it in mangrove creeks and small bays, it is easier to paddle than a canoe while solo but its still better to stay at home if the wind picks up. I haven't taken it in flowing water outside minor tidal flows to be able to speak to that. A couple must have accessories are a cooler to sit on and a stake out pole to hold your spot in shallow water, as well as some lashes to hold gear in place.

The best part of the SUP is the ability to stand up while casting to get a better vantage point on fish and structure. The kayak you link looks like it sits really low and would be not so fun fishing from for me.

This is the model I have: https://irockersup.com/product/blackfin-model-xl-paddle-board/

I'd hoped it would be easier to travel with, but it's heavy (~50 lbs with pump, paddle, bag, etc.) and in a bag the size of an international suitcase. This is obviously way easier to store and transport than a standard kayak, canoe, or hard paddleboard.

Dalton

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On Tue, May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM Connor Donovan <donovac@gmail.com> wrote:

A watermaster or some sort of one-person cataraft/pontoon may be a good fit too. They are inflatable with frames or oars that break down and are fairly stable. They aren't the greatest for trying to crank out river miles but for shorter flat water trips or ponds and lakes, you'd be golden.

I bet you can find a good deal on a used one if you keep your eye on CL.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 2:23:05 PM UTC-4, Dalton Terrell wrote:
Hi Jamie,

My wife got me an inflatable paddleboard last Christmas that I've been keeping at my in-laws in Southwest Florida. I've spent six or seven full days on the water now and love it--my board is 11'6" x 34" and is quite stable, I'd say the same or more stability as a large-ish canoe, and quite a bit more stable than any kayak I've been in. It's a bit of a pain to hand pump, doable but not fun, but luckily I got a package deal with electric pump that uses a car cigarette lighter. If you're getting one, I'd look at models 33-36" wide to get sufficient stability. I've been on hard SUPs that are 28" or 30" wide and they are super sketchy for me without even fishing.

I've used it in mangrove creeks and small bays, it is easier to paddle than a canoe while solo but its still better to stay at home if the wind picks up. I haven't taken it in flowing water outside minor tidal flows to be able to speak to that. A couple must have accessories are a cooler to sit on and a stake out pole to hold your spot in shallow water, as well as some lashes to hold gear in place.

The best part of the SUP is the ability to stand up while casting to get a better vantage point on fish and structure. The kayak you link looks like it sits really low and would be not so fun fishing from for me.

This is the model I have: https://irockersup.com/product/blackfin-model-xl-paddle-board/

I'd hoped it would be easier to travel with, but it's heavy (~50 lbs with pump, paddle, bag, etc.) and in a bag the size of an international suitcase. This is obviously way easier to store and transport than a standard kayak, canoe, or hard paddleboard.

Dalton

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

A watermaster or some sort of one-person cataraft/pontoon may be a good fit too. They are inflatable with frames or oars that break down and are fairly stable. They aren't the greatest for trying to crank out river miles but for shorter flat water trips or ponds and lakes, you'd be golden.

I bet you can find a good deal on a used one if you keep your eye on CL.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 2:23:05 PM UTC-4, Dalton Terrell wrote:

Hi Jamie,

My wife got me an inflatable paddleboard last Christmas that I've been keeping at my in-laws in Southwest Florida. I've spent six or seven full days on the water now and love it--my board is 11'6" x 34" and is quite stable, I'd say the same or more stability as a large-ish canoe, and quite a bit more stable than any kayak I've been in. It's a bit of a pain to hand pump, doable but not fun, but luckily I got a package deal with electric pump that uses a car cigarette lighter. If you're getting one, I'd look at models 33-36" wide to get sufficient stability. I've been on hard SUPs that are 28" or 30" wide and they are super sketchy for me without even fishing.

I've used it in mangrove creeks and small bays, it is easier to paddle than a canoe while solo but its still better to stay at home if the wind picks up. I haven't taken it in flowing water outside minor tidal flows to be able to speak to that. A couple must have accessories are a cooler to sit on and a stake out pole to hold your spot in shallow water, as well as some lashes to hold gear in place.

The best part of the SUP is the ability to stand up while casting to get a better vantage point on fish and structure. The kayak you link looks like it sits really low and would be not so fun fishing from for me.

This is the model I have: https://irockersup.com/product/blackfin-model-xl-paddle-board/

I'd hoped it would be easier to travel with, but it's heavy (~50 lbs with pump, paddle, bag, etc.) and in a bag the size of an international suitcase. This is obviously way easier to store and transport than a standard kayak, canoe, or hard paddleboard.

Dalton

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