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Monday, 25 March 2019

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Next Casting Church - Shad fishing theme

Thanks!

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 4:06:01 PM UTC-4, Regan Burmeister wrote:

A DC fishing license is required. Here is where you get them, https://doee.dc.gov/service/get-fishing-license

Regan

On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-4, Regan Burmeister wrote:
Next Casting Church, Sun 31 March, at Fletcher's. 8am in the lower parking lot. Park where you can, we will meet at one of the picnic tables near the boat shop.

Setting a theme for this church meeting, fly casting/fishing for shad on the Potomac from Fletcher's. We will first meet to talk about tackle set up, both single hand and double hand: rods, lines, tips, leaders, flies. We will discuss casting techniques, and we discuss how to fish for shad. Casting a heavy sink tip or full sinking line requires some changes in technique and tempo. We will then walk upstream. The goal here is to show off the river-left bank and how you would solve casting problems from various locations.

This is NOT a guided trip. The goal here is to get educated on the river and solve casting problems for fishing for shad from the bank. This will involve a fair bit of walking, added up throughout the morning, and some of the walking will be on rocks with angled surfaces. Some of the fishing locations involve standing on angled rock surfaces. Tripping and falling are a concern. A wading staff helps for balance. Please plan accordingly.

Waders and boots are strongly recommended, though not required. This is NOT full wade fishing (that is illegal), but we do get wet walking thru shallow water to get to locations. It is perfectly possible to successfully fish for shad from the bank and not need waders at all.

Bring your gear, and we will help you rig up. You will need some kind of sink tip (10ft or so) or a full sinking line, fast sink is better.

See you there,
Regan

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Mountain Brookies Armory

Let's plan on it!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Mountain Brookies Armory

Arthur, I have agree (and not because I started it) for all the reasons you listed but most of all for helping motivate me to get out there and get wet. Great forum because of great members.
Dave

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Mountain Brookies Armory

Beautiful trophy!

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Sunday, 24 March 2019

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Mountain Brookies Armory

New to the list. Will be doing chasing the mountain brookies as well. I have a few rods to try.

Looking to meet up with a few people and make a.day trip out of it.

Brian

On Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 18:15 arthur noglak <arthur.noglak@gmail.com> wrote:

This has been one of my favorite threads in awhile. Were drawing out some great opinions and suggestions.

More importantly Its cool to see how stylistic fly fishing is. I mean even something as simple as a good rod for fishing for mountain bluegill, has incited a complex discussion about rod lengths and actions.

Hell

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On Mar 24, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Carl Z. <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree with the roll cast suggestion. Overhead casts are highly efficient .... at catching trees.

For anything that doesn't require casting in a cove of laurels, a 7 or 7.5ft rod is perfect.

Even there, I suggest the bow and arrow cast.
Watch Joe Humphreys about 15 minutes into the video.
https://youtu.be/3dhKgm4dztg

Carl

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On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 9:56 AM Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:
I use a 7' 4 wt. Saying that ,what will fix your problem is learning to roll cast and a few single handed spey casts. With those casts in your arsenal you will never need to cast overhead.

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 9:51:23 PM UTC-5, Dave Stephenson wrote:
I 'm foolishly going to try to chase mountain brookies this season. I say foolishly because I will wrap a tree limb in the middle of the Chesapeake Bay casting to stripers. Question for all the mountain men and ladies; what is best rod length? I know I want a slow/full action ( thinking about glass) and probably a 3wt ( for a couple reasons), but is 7 foot too long? I know how much harder a shorter rod can be to cast, but a 7'9" seems too long for close quarters. I've spent a lot of time in the mountains and along those streams, just not too much trying to cast feathers into them. Has anyone tried the Moonshine Rods? In Murray's Fly Shop I would trust but their mountain rods start north of $600. Something i'm not going to spend. Thoughts? Wisdom? Derision? Talk me out of it?

Dave
Washington

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Mountain Brookies Armory

Hi Dave,

I've used a Cabella's TQR 5'6" four weight (TQR stands for tight quarters) for brookies and after some practice it worked fine. So much casting is quartering flicks upstream with the end of the run and water being your load or roll casting or even bow and arrow casting that the above fit the bill. In little streams with elevation and cover I can rarely do a real cast, other than when I find the odd pool here or there if things ever broaden out. I've even been on my knees hiding behind a boulder and done some Czech nymphing, though admittedly they were very short runs. No need to spend a ton. I forget how much my rod was but it was probably under $100. I already had 4wgt line.

Good luck! Brookies are the most beautiful fish in the world!

John

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> On Mar 9, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Dave Stephenson <dstephenson554@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I 'm foolishly going to try to chase mountain brookies this season. I say foolishly because I will wrap a tree limb in the middle of the Chesapeake Bay casting to stripers. Question for all the mountain men and ladies; what is best rod length? I know I want a slow/full action ( thinking about glass) and probably a 3wt ( for a couple reasons), but is 7 foot too long? I know how much harder a shorter rod can be to cast, but a 7'9" seems too long for close quarters. I've spent a lot of time in the mountains and along those streams, just not too much trying to cast feathers into them. Has anyone tried the Moonshine Rods? In Murray's Fly Shop I would trust but their mountain rods start north of $600. Something i'm not going to spend. Thoughts? Wisdom? Derision? Talk me out of it?
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> Dave
> Washington
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Mountain Brookies Armory

This has been one of my favorite threads in awhile. Were drawing out some great opinions and suggestions.

More importantly Its cool to see how stylistic fly fishing is. I mean even something as simple as a good rod for fishing for mountain bluegill, has incited a complex discussion about rod lengths and actions.

Hell

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 24, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Carl Z. <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree with the roll cast suggestion. Overhead casts are highly efficient .... at catching trees.

For anything that doesn't require casting in a cove of laurels, a 7 or 7.5ft rod is perfect.

Even there, I suggest the bow and arrow cast.
Watch Joe Humphreys about 15 minutes into the video.
https://youtu.be/3dhKgm4dztg

Carl

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On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 9:56 AM Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:
I use a 7' 4 wt. Saying that ,what will fix your problem is learning to roll cast and a few single handed spey casts. With those casts in your arsenal you will never need to cast overhead.

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 9:51:23 PM UTC-5, Dave Stephenson wrote:
I 'm foolishly going to try to chase mountain brookies this season. I say foolishly because I will wrap a tree limb in the middle of the Chesapeake Bay casting to stripers. Question for all the mountain men and ladies; what is best rod length? I know I want a slow/full action ( thinking about glass) and probably a 3wt ( for a couple reasons), but is 7 foot too long? I know how much harder a shorter rod can be to cast, but a 7'9" seems too long for close quarters. I've spent a lot of time in the mountains and along those streams, just not too much trying to cast feathers into them. Has anyone tried the Moonshine Rods? In Murray's Fly Shop I would trust but their mountain rods start north of $600. Something i'm not going to spend. Thoughts? Wisdom? Derision? Talk me out of it?

Dave
Washington

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