Thursday, 30 May 2019

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing trip down south

My father and I try to do a trip down south every summer.  We have fished the keys twice as well as the Charleston (SC) area.  Does anybody have any suggestions on where we should go?  I would be fly fishing and my father using light spinning tackle.  We are also interested in using a guide.  I have looked into some other spots (Louisiana, Flamingo Florida, etc...) but wanted to see if anybody had any suggestions.

Thanks,
Jason

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Wednesday, 29 May 2019

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

If between inflatable Kayak and inflatable SUP, I'd choose SUP 100% of the time for fly fishing.  As Thomas mentioned, I have a kayak that is incredibly stable. I am going into my 3rd season with it and I think I've thrown a fly from the seat under 5 times.  Fly fishing standing up is so much easier.  If you can find a stable SUP (wide) then I'd go for that.  I've paddled, but never fished from a few inflatable SUPs and found them pretty stable.  There's an acclimation period, but that could be said for my kayak as well.  Once you get a feel for it, I think you could modify it to suit your needs. 

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:02:41 AM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:
Hi all, I know there have been a few threads about kayaks and the such, but I was curious for folks' thoughts on fishing watercraft that are compact enough for city living specifically. For example, I've been intrigued by the Oru Kayak. It's super expensive but folds up into something I could store in the trunk of my car or in a closet at home. 

I've contemplated stand-up paddle boards,too. I've only been an SUP once and it took me a bit to get used to it (I fell off a couple times) and am not sure how it'd be too fish off one, especially in places with current and rocks and riffles. The one I used was on a calm reservoir. That said, I've never fished in a kayak, either. Only canoes and rowboats.

In terms of use, I was thinking I'd use it primarily for ponds and rivers (upper Potomac/Shenandoah in the summer). Not looking to do anything extreme--just looking to cover more water.

Thanks!


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Trout Unlimited's "A Nation's River"

Awesome thank you 

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:53 PM Dalton Terrell <daltonbterrell@gmail.com> wrote:
Our friends at TU just shared with me a cool video they've completed about their restoration and protection of the Potomac's headwaters. See the video here: https://www.tu.org/nationsriver/

Thanks,
Dalton

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

As a general FYI, every May the Appomattox River Company, paddleva.com, has an in-water demo day down in Farmville, VA. All their products, SUPs, kayaks (sit-ins, sit on tops), paddles, canoes, etc are there for tryouts on the water. With plenty of ARC staff and factory reps to answer questions.

I went down there about 5 years ago and glad I did before making my choice of kayak for fishing. Very worthwhile.

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

Jamie,

I've held off responding because of course my reply is biased, but it's biased because I did a little research on brands and what they had to offer before I put them in the shop.

I wanted to put SUPs in the shop that could get fly fishers into waters around the Potomac, its tributaries, and other smaller waters, like tidal creeks and back bays. I wanted a platform that was stable enough to cast and move back and forth, and somehow carry more than one rod, and something to sit on.

I wanted to be able to drop in alongside roads and small parks, paddle up into skinny water, and chase snakehead and bass in places that were either too soft and muddy to walk in, too overgrown to bushwack, or just surrounded by homes with no public access. Think Little Hunting, Blackwater, Cameron, and a bunch of other No Tellum creeks in the area.

I also am in a townhouse off H Street NE and don't want to mess with taking it thru the house into our backyard so I wanted a more portable and convenient way to do what I wanted without buying a johnboat.

After hitting the fishing shows and trying the inflatable and hard BOTE boards, I was sold. I even bought one myself, which is assembled in the shop with all the bells and whistles. BOTE isn't the least expensive model, but in my opinion, it's one of the best. Other brands like Pau Hana were on the list but I went with a company that was wedded to the fly fishing industry and had product availability.

There are ups and downs to every SUP, and the easiest way to tell if it's something you'd like to use is to just call me at the shop and ask me to bring you somewhere to demo it. Any of you are welcome to do the same anytime.

Regards,

Richard


On 5/28/19, 9:39 PM, "Jamie Carracher" <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com on behalf of jcarracher@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow those are some really awesome options. Thanks everybody! I have to admit, those Flycraft products look pretty freaking sweet. But more expensive than I was thinking of spending. And more than I need. But one day...

Most of the fishing I do is within an hour or so of DC, so I like the idea of a SUP and its quick assembly. Also, the investment is pretty good. Plus my wife, who has no interest in fishing, could use it. When you talk about current, what would be too much? Could it handle up north of Riverbend Park in the summer when the water is low—at least cross-crossing to find spots (I'm sure it'd probably go all over in the main current)? Or is it better in something like the Monocacy where the current is general a lot more slow (from what I've seen. I'm not an expert on that water). I'm not looking to go through rapids or anything—just thinking of the conditions I'm most likely to to experience here.

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Yea, my comments were only aimed at inflatable kayaks and boards. If I was in the market for a non inflatable board or kayak I would look sit on top kayaks that you can also stand up in easily or a bote board or other fishing specific board. My current kayak, Tarpon 120 doesn't allow me to stand (also no place to store it) but Gregg D. has a kayak he can stand in and I think that is the best of both worlds.  



On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 11:51:05 AM UTC-4, Charlie Church wrote:
I think SUP vs Kayak is really dependent on the use case. I have seen some inflatable SUPs that are really easy to transport. The BOTE inflatable stands out to me. We auctioned one off at an event last year and you could easily carry it one handed while fully inflated. You can't really do that with a kayak.

SUP Pros:
- You can stand
- Not sitting all day
- Easier to transport

Kayak Pros: 
- A good kayak can most situations IE: wind, chop, current, swell, structure, or anything that would make paddling difficult.
- More storage
- Peddle if you have the $$$$$

I personally own two kayaks as well as a gheenoe lt25. I still take the kayaks out when I go out for a quick trip or need to be able to handle a little bit more chop. 

If anyone ever needs non-inflatable kayak recommends, I can say which to get and which to avoid. I had one reputable brand's kayak sink on me due to their plastic not being that great and the response I got from them caused me to never touch another one of their products again.


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I think SUP vs Kayak is really dependent on the use case. I have seen some inflatable SUPs that are really easy to transport. The BOTE inflatable stands out to me. We auctioned one off at an event last year and you could easily carry it one handed while fully inflated. You can't really do that with a kayak.

SUP Pros:
- You can stand
- Not sitting all day
- Easier to transport

Kayak Pros: 
- A good kayak can most situations IE: wind, chop, current, swell, structure, or anything that would make paddling difficult.
- More storage
- Peddle if you have the $$$$$

I personally own two kayaks as well as a gheenoe lt25. I still take the kayaks out when I go out for a quick trip or need to be able to handle a little bit more chop. 

If anyone ever needs non-inflatable kayak recommends, I can say which to get and which to avoid. I had one reputable brand's kayak sink on me due to their plastic not being that great and the response I got from them caused me to never touch another one of their products again.


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