Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders

Wednesday, 29 May 2019

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

Portability. If there's a kayak that can fit into a backpack that you can also stand to fish from, I'd love to hear about it. You can backpack it in to places you can't get a kayak.

I personally find it easier to fly fish from an SUP because you are standing. I am not a fan of being cramped in a kayak all day. YMMV.

As Eric and Dalton mentioned above, the key is to get a wide, inflatable model - most hard body SUPs are not stable enough for fishing.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:18:48 AM UTC-4, spst...@gmail.com wrote:

Honest question: why go SUP instead of kayak? It seems to me the options, price points, etc. are all better with 'yaks than SUPs. I've never fished from a SUP but it looks much more difficult…

-Sean

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

I'll second Dalton's suggestion regarding steering clear of any SUPs below 32 or 33" wide. I bought a cheapo 27" wide inflatable SUP last spring/summer that was surprisingly decent considering the price, but I could just not feel stable fishing on it even in calm water. I don't think you need to break the bank, but I would definitely go for something that is at least wide enough to give you the stability to fish.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:02:41 AM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:
Hi all, I know there have been a few threads about kayaks and the such, but I was curious for folks' thoughts on fishing watercraft that are compact enough for city living specifically. For example, I've been intrigued by the Oru Kayak. It's super expensive but folds up into something I could store in the trunk of my car or in a closet at home.

I've contemplated stand-up paddle boards,too. I've only been an SUP once and it took me a bit to get used to it (I fell off a couple times) and am not sure how it'd be too fish off one, especially in places with current and rocks and riffles. The one I used was on a calm reservoir. That said, I've never fished in a kayak, either. Only canoes and rowboats.

In terms of use, I was thinking I'd use it primarily for ponds and rivers (upper Potomac/Shenandoah in the summer). Not looking to do anything extreme--just looking to cover more water.

Thanks!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

ideally you can stand on a SUP while fishing. Will allow you to spot fish/spots better and cast further. If it isn't stable enough to stand and cast from, sitting on a cooler will keep you much higher than a inflatable kayak (all I have seen are sit-ins). I have only fished from solid SUPs and it isn't too hard. Wasn't even a fishing specific one, just a low end LL bean branded BIC board.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:18:48 AM UTC-4, spst...@gmail.com wrote:

Honest question: why go SUP instead of kayak? It seems to me the options, price points, etc. are all better with 'yaks than SUPs. I've never fished from a SUP but it looks much more difficult…

-Sean

From: tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com <tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Eric Pardo
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

I'll second Dalton's suggestion regarding steering clear of any SUPs below 32 or 33" wide. I bought a cheapo 27" wide inflatable SUP last spring/summer that was surprisingly decent considering the price, but I could just not feel stable fishing on it even in calm water. I don't think you need to break the bank, but I would definitely go for something that is at least wide enough to give you the stability to fish.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:02:41 AM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:
Hi all, I know there have been a few threads about kayaks and the such, but I was curious for folks' thoughts on fishing watercraft that are compact enough for city living specifically. For example, I've been intrigued by the Oru Kayak. It's super expensive but folds up into something I could store in the trunk of my car or in a closet at home.

I've contemplated stand-up paddle boards,too. I've only been an SUP once and it took me a bit to get used to it (I fell off a couple times) and am not sure how it'd be too fish off one, especially in places with current and rocks and riffles. The one I used was on a calm reservoir. That said, I've never fished in a kayak, either. Only canoes and rowboats.

In terms of use, I was thinking I'd use it primarily for ponds and rivers (upper Potomac/Shenandoah in the summer). Not looking to do anything extreme--just looking to cover more water.

Thanks!

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

Honest question: why go SUP instead of kayak? It seems to me the options, price points, etc. are all better with 'yaks than SUPs. I've never fished from a SUP but it looks much more difficult…

-Sean

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

I'll second Dalton's suggestion regarding steering clear of any SUPs below 32 or 33" wide. I bought a cheapo 27" wide inflatable SUP last spring/summer that was surprisingly decent considering the price, but I could just not feel stable fishing on it even in calm water. I don't think you need to break the bank, but I would definitely go for something that is at least wide enough to give you the stability to fish.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:02:41 AM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:

Hi all, I know there have been a few threads about kayaks and the such, but I was curious for folks' thoughts on fishing watercraft that are compact enough for city living specifically. For example, I've been intrigued by the Oru Kayak. It's super expensive but folds up into something I could store in the trunk of my car or in a closet at home.

I've contemplated stand-up paddle boards,too. I've only been an SUP once and it took me a bit to get used to it (I fell off a couple times) and am not sure how it'd be too fish off one, especially in places with current and rocks and riffles. The one I used was on a calm reservoir. That said, I've never fished in a kayak, either. Only canoes and rowboats.

In terms of use, I was thinking I'd use it primarily for ponds and rivers (upper Potomac/Shenandoah in the summer). Not looking to do anything extreme--just looking to cover more water.

Thanks!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

Hi all, I know there have been a few threads about kayaks and the such, but I was curious for folks' thoughts on fishing watercraft that are compact enough for city living specifically. For example, I've been intrigued by the Oru Kayak. It's super expensive but folds up into something I could store in the trunk of my car or in a closet at home.

I've contemplated stand-up paddle boards,too. I've only been an SUP once and it took me a bit to get used to it (I fell off a couple times) and am not sure how it'd be too fish off one, especially in places with current and rocks and riffles. The one I used was on a calm reservoir. That said, I've never fished in a kayak, either. Only canoes and rowboats.

In terms of use, I was thinking I'd use it primarily for ponds and rivers (upper Potomac/Shenandoah in the summer). Not looking to do anything extreme--just looking to cover more water.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Watercraft for apartment dwellers

I have no hands-on experience, but I found a good selection of options at this website:

https://www.boatstogo.com/kaboat.asp

I'd consider something inflatable and stable, and then maybe look at adding an electric trolling motor with an (expensive) light weight battery... secured into a battery box with lid secured to the boat (so you don't lose it if you ever tip), or maybe even a small 2 hp gasoline motor... but gas adds a whole new dimension in terms of storage and portability, since you have to address fumes and potential spillage.

Here's the type of trolling motor I'm thinking of:

Minn Kota Endura C2 55
(55 Lbs. Thrust, 36" Shaft) ($249

https://mk.factoryoutletstore.com/cat/20846-68476/Minn-Kota-Endura-Series-Trolling-Motors.html?cid=60539&chid=4272&gclid=CjwKCAjw27jnBRBuEiwAdjQXDKFIwCUjk9qZjQNVGHBvdJgljdNsOmuIvqW2UqvRV_UiJIciuSKtwhoCeEQQAvD_BwE

or this:

(From Amazon).

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For batteries, there's a whole new crop of light-weight lipo, LiFePO4, etc.. batteries. I don't know which brands are best. Look up some of the bass boat fishing boards, and I'm sure you can find out which brands are known and reliable. At least some of the bass-boat guys love these batteries, and since some of them fish tournaments regularly, I'd be shocked if you couldn't find info on which batteries are best. I'd definitely look towards a reliable brand, because lipo batteries need charge and discharge protection which is best implemented as a circuit on the battery itself, and you don't want to risk sketchy or poorly designed or built products as they can literally shoot out flames if charged too quickly (that's where the electronics protect you), and they can be permanently damaged if discharged too deeply.

So, think of this as just a thought that requires further investigation, rather than a full-fledged endorsement of any particular product or brand.

I have a friend who fishes regularly, and he had a set of these style batteries, and then replaced them with ones that only have 1/2 the capacity, because they were even lighter, and it turns out that he never used the full capacity of the larger ones, so he decided to go for the weight loss.

He's very happy with them, they maintain almost full voltage over their whole useful life, they are super light weight, and they recharge ridiculously quickly... like after using them, he tops off the charge in 20 minutes or so.

If anyone's seriously considering this option, let me know and I can find out the brand that he uses.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 1:35:12 AM UTC-4, Ethan Do wrote:

I've been looking into getting this SUP for maybe this summer or fall. Seems like it has features built to slap on a trolling motor to clear more water.

https://tahoesup.com/touring-stand-up-paddle-board/12-fish-stalker-inflatable-standup-paddle-board

Respectfully,
Ethan Do

On May 29, 2019, at 12:09 AM, Andrew Sarcinello <andy...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think you'd have trouble at Riverbend trying to head upstream on a SUP. However if you wanted to hike upstream a bit and then fish back down, without attempting to cross currents or go upstream, you'd be OK. Maybe I just need more practice but it seems hard to change drift line in fast water. Monocacy would be great though - I wanted to try that last year, but it was running 10X the level I like to fish it all of last summer and fall.

You can also get creative and use it to float some really small creeks, it's good to use to cover water and hit the good spots and just blast through all the shallow water in between. Have to watch out for fallen trees and sharp bends though. I tried it on Deer Creek in MD last year and had trouble keeping my balance going around bends (while sitting on cooler to paddle - I actually didn't stand up at all that trip). If you don't attach the large center fin on the back, you can pass through riffles and flat water that is only 6 inches deep. My friend in a kayak on that trip bottomed out and had to drag many times, but I rarely had that problem.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Trout Unlimited's "A Nation's River"

enjoyed greatly!

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 3:53:12 PM UTC-4, Dalton Terrell wrote:

Our friends at TU just shared with me a cool video they've completed about their restoration and protection of the Potomac's headwaters. See the video here: https://www.tu.org/nationsriver/

Thanks,
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Trout Unlimited's "A Nation's River"

Great video - thanks for sharing, Dalton!

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:53 PM Dalton Terrell <daltonbterrell@gmail.com> wrote:

Our friends at TU just shared with me a cool video they've completed about their restoration and protection of the Potomac's headwaters. See the video here: https://www.tu.org/nationsriver/

Thanks,
Dalton

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Wednesday, 29 May 2019

Minn Kota Endura C2 55(55 Lbs. Thrust, 36" Shaft) ($249

Minn Kota Endura C2 55
(55 Lbs. Thrust, 36" Shaft) ($249