Sunday, 26 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: "FISH TALES" Gathering Tuesday 28 October 2025

REMINDER for Tuesday night FISH TALES in Del Ray, all invited, please rsvp..

On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 9:30:13 AM UTC-4 peter odell wrote:
Sponsored by www.fishingcommunity.org, we're going have a meetup event for fisherman of all types - fly, spin, salt, fresh, whatever you love to do.  Get out of the house, meet a few new friends, hear a few stories!  Nothing but fun. Invite your friends! and forward to other groups.  With good interest, we'll make it a monthly event.

Logistics:  

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Tuesday, 21 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: fall striper charter.....?

Peter if you haven't found anything yet, you can check with Scott Barmby and his team out of Chesapeake Beach, MD:
Chesapeake Bay Charters - Rock on Charter Fishing
Their prices are more in line with the market.  $1500 sounds like a "don't really wanna do it" rate for 2-3 on the Bay, even if you're just burning gas and trolling for 6-8 hours.  Scott runs the full day seminar style Orvis Fly Fishing Schools in the area.  I've fished with him and his guys twice and am pleased with the catch and their work.  They offer fly, spinning or bait.  


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I'm looking for a guided midweek day for 2 or 3 people on the Chesapeake in late october/november......any recommendations?  I got one quote  for  $1500, which is way above florida tarpon high season rates.

Any info appreciated....

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Friday, 17 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} NCC-TU Chapter Meeting Wednesday, Oct 22 at AREC

Hi TPFR,

Next Wednesday at 7:30 pm, National Capital Chapter of Trout Unlimited is hosting a chapter meeting at the Aquatic Resources Education Center (AREC), located at 1500 Anacostia Drive. I will be giving a presentation on our biggest conservation project of the past few years, the Catoctin Mountain Water Temperature Study. In 2020 and 2021, NCC-TU collected water temp data at over 30 locations on brook trout streams in Frederick County. Come learn about what we found and what it means for our local brook trout.

Hope to see you there!
Andrew

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Wednesday, 15 October 2025

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Digest for tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

Great event. For a good cause and a lot of fun. Thanks for organizing.  

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 6:14 AM <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Casey Peltier <caseypelt@gmail.com>: Oct 14 02:23PM -0700

An enthusiastic and rowdy crowd assembled at the Colony Grill for a special
fly tying event to benefit Casting for Recovery. Packets of materials were
provided to those who registered, and the organizers had to quickly
assemble more packets as demand was greater than anticipated. (thank you
Ivan!)
Once all the competitors had turned in their flies, the judges went to
work--thanks to Carolyn, Virginia, Mark, and Ivan for their discerning
examination of every entry.
Prizes went to Naomi, Josh, George, and Anthony. Congratulations!
Mark brought his bargain estaz assortments and donated his proceeds to
CfR--thank you Mark!
Other generous folks added to the collection, and the grand total for the
evening was $300.
Wow.
Thanks for helping CfR put on another fly fishing retreat for breast cancer
survivors! (It's not all about the fish...)
 
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Tuesday, 14 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Beer Tie Iron Vise--wow!

An enthusiastic and rowdy crowd assembled at the Colony Grill for a special fly tying event to benefit Casting for Recovery. Packets of materials were provided to those who registered, and the organizers had to quickly assemble more packets as demand was greater than anticipated. (thank you Ivan!) 
Once all the competitors had turned in their flies, the judges went to work--thanks to Carolyn, Virginia, Mark, and Ivan for their discerning examination of every entry.
Prizes went to Naomi, Josh, George, and Anthony. Congratulations! 
Mark brought his bargain estaz assortments and donated his proceeds to CfR--thank you Mark! 
Other generous folks added to the collection, and the grand total for the evening was $300.
Wow.
Thanks for helping CfR put on another fly fishing retreat for breast cancer survivors! (It's not all about the fish...)

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Monday, 13 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Iron Fly + MNF Commanders Game

Hey there! You won't miss the Commanders' game if you come to the Iron Fly at the Beer Tie. Colony Grill is a sports bar! 

Double your Monday Nite fun and come along for football and a chance to show off your tying skill!

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Sunday, 12 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} IRON FLY!!

Monday Night, at the Colony Grill in Arlington, our Beer Tie will feature a Contest!  Come tie a fly with materials provided! Show off your skill and imagination!
Pizza's on us!  
Proceeds benefit Casting for Recovery.
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} In case you missed WaPo's Dana Milbank on fly fishing

Read all about it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/10/10/fly-fishing-conservation-climate-change/

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Inaugural "FISH TALES" Gathering 28 October 2025

Sponsored by www.fishingcommunity.org, we're going have a meetup event for fisherman of all types - fly, spin, salt, fresh, whatever you love to do.  Get out of the house, meet a few new friends, hear a few stories!  Nothing but fun. Invite your friends! and forward to other groups.  With good interest, we'll make it a monthly event.

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  • When:  October 28, 2025, 6:30 pm – 9:00 pm
  • Where:  The Junction Bistro/Bakery 1508 Mt Vernon Ave #1718, Alexandria, VA 22301 (Full Bar & Food)
  • Who:  DMV Fishermen/women – all types, breakout groups for fresh, salt, spin, flyfishing, others
  • Format:  Free to come, buy your own drinks/food
  • Bring:  Stories, pictures, fishing reports 
  • Complete: CONEXUS friendship profile (no personal data) https://app.getconexus.com/events/inaugural-fish-tales-85ac00ebe18/join
  • RSVP to attend:   Pete.odell@perdata.ai 
  • Sponsor/add ideas/questions:  Pete@perdata.ai  2024609207

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Friday, 10 October 2025

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Digest for tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

That's great to hear, Chris! 

Do preregister with Scott Allen at your convenience. His info is in the flyer.

Best,
Owen 

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Christopher Newkumet <chris@newkphoto.com>: Oct 07 05:16PM -0400

I'm planning on it
 
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Tuesday, 7 October 2025

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} No Casting Church this Sunday

I'm planning on it

On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 1:51 PM Owen Williams <eowilliams11@gmail.com> wrote:
No Casting Church this Sunday, October 12.
Instead, come to the 3rd Annual Northern Virginia Fly Casting Skills Development Workshop, which TPFR is co-sponsoring with the Goose Creek Casting Club, in Ashburn, VA, on Saturday, October 11. Registration is requested, and details are on the attached flyer.
TPFR Casting Church will resume on Sunday, November 9, at 9 a.m.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} No Casting Church this Sunday

No Casting Church this Sunday, October 12.
Instead, come to the 3rd Annual Northern Virginia Fly Casting Skills Development Workshop, which TPFR is co-sponsoring with the Goose Creek Casting Club, in Ashburn, VA, on Saturday, October 11. Registration is requested, and details are on the attached flyer.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fwd: Fall Trout Stocking: October 6, 2025

Yes, that's it. Maryland DNR really hates to waste fish so they do what they can to stock 1) When it's cool enough and 2) where there is enough water.

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On Oct 7, 2025, at 10:14 AM, Christopher Newkumet <chris@newkphoto.com> wrote:


A pond and a lake; I assume that makes sense during a draught?

On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:38 PM Owen Williams <eowilliams11@gmail.com> wrote:
I think this is the first Maryland stocking notice I've seen this year…

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800 trout stocked today

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Maryland Department of Natural Resources crews stocked 800 trout.


Howard County

  • Warfield Park Pond: golden and rainbow trout

Washington County

  • Blairs Valley Lake: golden and rainbow trout

Trout Stocking Resources:


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fwd: Fall Trout Stocking: October 6, 2025

A pond and a lake; I assume that makes sense during a draught?

On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:38 PM Owen Williams <eowilliams11@gmail.com> wrote:
I think this is the first Maryland stocking notice I've seen this year…

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800 trout stocked today

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Photo of hand and net with trout

Maryland Department of Natural Resources crews stocked 800 trout.


Howard County

  • Warfield Park Pond: golden and rainbow trout

Washington County

  • Blairs Valley Lake: golden and rainbow trout

Trout Stocking Resources:


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Monday, 6 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fwd: Fall Trout Stocking: October 6, 2025

I think this is the first Maryland stocking notice I've seen this year…

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800 trout stocked today

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Photo of hand and net with trout

Maryland Department of Natural Resources crews stocked 800 trout.


Howard County

  • Warfield Park Pond: golden and rainbow trout

Washington County

  • Blairs Valley Lake: golden and rainbow trout

Trout Stocking Resources:


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Wednesday, 1 October 2025

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} fall striper charter.....?

I'm looking for a guided midweek day for 2 or 3 people on the Chesapeake in late october/november......any recommendations?  I got one quote  for  $1500, which is way above florida tarpon high season rates.

Any info appreciated....

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fly Lines for Lower Potomac

Thanks for the reply Tom! I will look into the Rio Outbound Short lines! I've heard good things about them but haven't fished any of them yet. I definitely anticipate bank fishing the Potomac for the spring shad run, so I appreciate your recommendation and hope to be on the water with a good line by then! 

Ben

On Monday, September 29, 2025 at 2:22:07 PM UTC-4 Tom Steeley wrote:
Welcome to the group.

I'm not sure you've received any responses to your questions.

For the fishing you are doing, you cannot go wrong with the Rio Outbound Short series of lines.  A good thing and a bad thing there are a bunch of options.

For the surf, given that you need to go deeper, you can do the full sinking line.  For deeper holes, this would work great.  For the more shallow areas, you will be dragging along the bottom a lot.  That might be ok, but the full intermediate might be better.

Both of those lines would work great from any watercraft.

Where you run into problems with the full intermediate or full sinking fly lines is fishing from the bank.  I do most of my fishing on the potomac from Great Falls down to Fletchers.  Between the bank/rocks and the deeper channels there are huge outcroppings of rocks/boulders that are sometimes visible, sometimes submerged.  I have had a ton of success with the Rio Outbound Short multi-density lines.  They float or sink very slowly out over the outcroppings, but then sink fast out further in the deeper channels.

The one I've highlighted might be the best compromise for bank fishing the Potomac, but the full sinking and full intermediate IMO are best for the other applications.  And, Scientific Angler, BTW, has something similar.  Personally, not sure why but I prefer the Rio lines slightly more.

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Tom

On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 8:40 AM Ben Coffman <ben.g....@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm new to the group and excited to see a source of information and support as I grow from freshwater fly fishing to saltwater! I've primarily fly fished for trout and panfish, occasionally fly fishing smallmouth rivers. In those environments I've fished with floating lines or an intermediate tip sinking line. This year, I've begun to fish on the Coan River near Lewisetta Marina just upriver from the Potomac's juncture with the Chesapeake Bay. I primarily fish by kayak there. I also occasionally fish the Atlantic surf from the beach at Assateague or in Ocean City, Maryland. 

I have an Orvis 9-foot 8-weight Clearwater with an Orvis Hydros 4 and I'm currently using Cortland Striper floating line. I've been fishing the area since early spring, and other than a few fish here and there, I'm not doing as well as I would expect if I was fishing freshwater. I feel that I may not be getting down deep enough or staying deep enough during retrieves so I'm planning to purchase a sinking line. There's a ton of information online about the best lines for saltwater, but very little agreement, so I thought I'd come to the members of this group for help! After all, the name of the group is tidal Potomac and that's what I need help with! 

Considering that I primarily fish the tidal lower Potomac and Coan Rivers from a kayak and occasionally the rough Atlantic surf from the beach, what would be a good line choice? I'd prefer one line to handle both situations but I've also learned that it's hard to find a good line across multiple environments! Fast sink or intermediate? Full sinking or intermediate line or just a sinking or intermediate tip/head? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! 

I'm also open to tips for kayak fishing tidal waters as well! I'm currently fishing an 11' 8" Emotion Stealth Pro paddle propulsion with an anchor trolley system. 

Thanks for guiding a new saltwater angler in the right direction! 

Ben

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