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Monday, 30 April 2018

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fletcher's cove questions

DC license is needed, buy it at the boathouse.

When fishing from shore, a sinking line is a liability. It ends up getting your fly/line tangled in the rocks. Even with a floating line, expect to break off some flies. When out in a boat, a full sink can help. but I had a strange experience last year. I was out on one of those drizzly days that you have to motivate yourself to get out. The guy next to me was fishing a floating line and bringing in one fish after another. I was on a full sink line (T14) and while I would hook them, the fish would jump and the line would be in the shape of a giant U. The line is going down from my rod tip but up to the fish. I lost more fish that day than I care to think about. The next time I go out, I will try a sink tip with a slightly slower sink rate.

As for spinning tackle. Shad darts from and shad spoons work well. I like the spoons quite a bit. sometimes I will run a heavy dart with a spoon coming off a bit above the dart. It can make a mess in the line, but the combo gets the spoon down. I guess splitshot would work to get the spoon down too. Light weight tackle is fine I use 8 to 10 lb mono, which is enough for any shad I've caught. Just make sure you have the drag set right. Those fish will run and jump.

Carl

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On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Ben H <benmholt@gmail.com> wrote:

Apologies if some of these questions are very basic. Going to try rowboats from Fletcher's for the first time this week and wanted to know a few details.

1. Is a VA freshwater license valid in this stretch or is a D.C. License needed?

2. Full sinking line needed to catch shad from boat or will a sink tip suffice? Looks like flows will be normal for this time of year.

3. Also contemplating bringing some cheat gear (aka spinning tackle) for jigging striper. Any tips on lures and size/weight of spoons/jig heads much appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Columbia, SC?

I've never fished the lower saluda only the upper saluda for trout. However, I do know that the lower Saluda gets really crowded this time of year with tubers. Especially with the close proximity to USC and graduation around the corner. Might be something to consider if you are going to DIY.

-Connor

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 11:25:40 AM UTC-4, Connor Donovan wrote:

Heading down to Columbia this weekend for a wedding and a buddy and I are looking to kill some time on Friday and Saturday. Has anyone fished the lower Saluda or Broad/Congaree near downtown? Would love to hear fishing experiences on either.

I'm looking into a guide but am curious if folks have DIY experience before I consider plunking down dollars on two fisheries I didn't even know existed until 10am today.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shad Run 2018

As I continue to almost feverishly look for updates on this year's Shad Run and have seen little chatter about it here, I thought it might be helpful to start a thread here. I'll go first.

Saturday we stopped by Fletcher's Cove for the first time to check it out. We did not fish, but took time to read the (highish) water. Saw some promising seams and continuous line of herring jumping within casting distance from the shore. We saw some shore fishers pulling in fish, but nothing crazy.

Also noted Fletcher's update for tomorrow:

"On Monday, our Fletchers Boathouse location will close at 7:00 pm. Tomorrow is looking good for great rowboat fishing and kayak paddling. Tackle and rental shop opens early at 6:30."

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Trout fishing

A quick fishing report: I spent 4 hrs on Beaver Creek MD Sunday morning. The weather was cool & sunny. Fished the fly fishing only section. I rigged up with a 2 fly system size14 bead head black stonefly on the bottom and small size18 black spider wet fly above . Managed to land 2 nice browns around 12 inches. They both hit the top wet fly. Nice day to be out on the stream. Only saw one other fisherman while I was there.

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:22:57 PM UTC-4, Terry C wrote:

Has anyone been out trout fishing lately? I'm thinking about a couple of MD streams over the weekend if they don't get blown out with the next round of rain. Looking at Middle Creek does anyone have any thoughts on it. I have never fished it. thanks

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: HELP NEEDED: Impromptu Oregon Fishing Trip

one link to get you started for the Deschutes, http://www.flyfishingdeschutes.com/monthly-hatch-chart and give them a call for more detail; for the metolius, it is a fun challenging stream, shallow clear, spooky fish, stalking is necessary due to clear water http://perfectflystore.com/wmetoliusr.html. recommend calling any of the flyshops to get details on access to fishing especially the Deschutes.

the lower Deschutes can be reached by going through the gorge or go over hood on 26 to Maupin, to get to the metolius you have to go farther south toward Mt Jefferson. If you only have a day you are going to have to pick one or the other. best bet is to call to see what is active for the hatch and if it is stonefly the hit the Deschutes. the Deschutes is best accessed by drifting but there are locations where you can fish from the bank just be careful the footing can be treacherous. (do your internet recon)

be prepared for colder water temps due to elevation, insulated waders are nice in the spring and necessary if steel heading in the winter.

there is too much to do in one day so try to focus on that one thing you want to do.

If you like micro brew beer and coffee and fresh seafood your are going to a great place. One place to stop for dining, beer, etc and it is close to the airport and sits at the mouth of the Sandy river is a place called the edgefield and it is in the city of troutdale which is at the mouth of the Columbia gorge.

Enjoy your visit and good luck fishing.

P.S.

If you think you will do this on a regular basis recommend picking up the fishing Oregon guide, good book of sites to fish across Oregon with directions on how to get there. I used it to find lakes in the cascades around hood and south to hike in and fly fish from a float tube, and it also helped me find places to fish on the Deschutes.

On Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 6:28:11 PM UTC-4, Ashley Frohwein wrote:

I just learned a few days ago that I'm traveling for work to Salem and Portland, OR this coming week and weekend. I have one free day (Saturday), and I'm looking to do some DIY wade fishing within ~1.5 hrs. of the Portland airport. Oh, and get this: I've never fished on the West Coast, nor have I ever fished for steelhead or salmon. I've tried to do some internet research, but other than the Orvis 101 salmon/stealheading videos, I haven't found much.

So here's my plan (which I need and would appreciate input on):

I'm planning to fish the Sandy River. (Do you know of any better options in the area? I need something wadeable and relatively simple, since I've only got 1 day to fish it.) I'm bringing an 8 weight (salmon) and 5 weight (trout) (both singlehanded), both with floating lines. I have a full sink line for the 8 weight, and a sinktip floating line for the 5 weight, both of which I'll be bringing. I've got some generic salmon and steelhead flies, and will pick some more up while I'm out there. I'll be using 9-11 foot 8-12 (and maybe even 16) lbs leaders.

Any advice/input would be much appreciated.

-Clueless.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Columbia, SC?

Heading down to Columbia this weekend for a wedding and a buddy and I are looking to kill some time on Friday and Saturday. Has anyone fished the lower Saluda or Broad/Congaree near downtown? Would love to hear fishing experiences on either.

I'm looking into a guide but am curious if folks have DIY experience before I consider plunking down dollars on two fisheries I didn't even know existed until 10am today.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fishing near Tallahassee FL

Hope this isn't too late, but I lived in Tallahassee for a couple years during college. This was 20 years ago, but I used to fish a place called Wakulla Beach. It's still open to fishing, it looks like. It's at the end of Wakulla Beach Road, maybe a 45 minutes south of Tallahassee. That's where I'd go.

Around peak tide you can fish along the marsh grass for reds and sea trout - the former on anything crabby looking (or one of my Softy Spoon flies), and the latter on a chartreuse Deceiver or similar.

Otherwise you can walk a few minutes west of the beach to Goose Creek - a tidal creek/marsh - and fish the oyster bars. It's easier if the tide is not too high, but it's almost always good for fish.

Fwiw, I made my peace with God on Goose Creek. I was fishing, waist deep in the middle of the creek, minding my own business, when suddenly two gigantic black sea monsters came surging up the creek directly towards me. I was too startled to piss myself. I took a deep breath and thought, "Okay, if this is how I go, so be it." About fifty yards away from me, the beasts started swimming in circles in the middle of the creek, and large mullet start popping out of the swirl. They were pilot whales, herding mullet - one of the most amazing things I've seen in the wild. I was grateful to witness it, grateful to have lived through it, and then half an hour later I was kinda pissed they had completely blown out the creek.

There are also some good largemouth bass lakes in the area, which might be a plan B. There's not any one I prefer over the others - they all have fish.

-Miles

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:29:47 PM UTC-4, Nedak wrote:

Headed to Tallahassee and might have a couple of hours to kill. Have a car and will drive reasonable ~60min to fish.

Suggestions welcome.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fletcher's cove questions

We use anywhere between a 3/4oz to 1.5oz jig for stripers. Jigging will be tough for the beginning part of the week with higher than average flows but hopefully it'll settle down by Thursday/Friday for a reasonable chance at jigging up a striper. Without a motor the jig routine is difficult but you could anchor on the current seam and fish off the back of the boat or fan cast the area. You can purchase jigs at Fletchers.

I'd go with a full sink or sinking head. This is ideal for shad but will also give you the ability to fish for stripers. It may be a little early in the season to target them on the fly but by mid-May the current is usually slow enough to get a fly down to the bottom.

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 3:23:29 PM UTC-4, Ben H wrote:

Apologies if some of these questions are very basic. Going to try rowboats from Fletcher's for the first time this week and wanted to know a few details.
1. Is a VA freshwater license valid in this stretch or is a D.C. License needed?
2. Full sinking line needed to catch shad from boat or will a sink tip suffice? Looks like flows will be normal for this time of year.
3. Also contemplating bringing some cheat gear (aka spinning tackle) for jigging striper. Any tips on lures and size/weight of spoons/jig heads much appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fletcher's cove questions

Took the words right outta my mouth,Tim. And if you're 65+ in Maryland, $5 bucks covers ALL your license needs. Seniority conveys perks. ;-)

Mark

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 7:53:19 AM UTC-4, scer...@aol.com wrote:

Anglers 65+ do NOT need a DC fishing license....check it out at: https://doee.dc.gov/service/get-fishing-license

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fletcher's cove questions

They sell licenses right at Fletcher's. I use a 300 grain full sinking line. The Americans in particular like to be deep.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fletcher's cove questions

Anglers 65+ do NOT need a DC fishing license....check it out at: https://doee.dc.gov/service/get-fishing-license

Tim Johnson

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 9:11:36 PM UTC-4, Ben H wrote:

Thanks guys, appreciate the responses. I'll be sure to pick up a D.C. License online

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Sunday, 29 April 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fletcher's cove questions

Thanks guys, appreciate the responses. I'll be sure to pick up a D.C. License online

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Fletcher's cove questions

Ben,

1. NONE of the Potomac river is Virginia. Though Maryland gives reciprocity, DC does not. In the water or on the Virginia shore across from DC, you absolutely need a DC license. So, for Fletchers, DC license is required, no ifs ands or buts about it. I have seen cops ticketing fishermen on the Chain Bridge side with Virginia licenses.

2. Need is a strong word. I use a 30-foot sinking head. I have seen guys catch hickories with a floating line. My advice, if you can afford it, is to get a sinking line/30-foot sinking head. But advice aside, my practice is always I fish with what I have. If I only had a sink-tip, I would use it. If using a sink-tip, cast more upriver with a heavier fly (or flies) giving the tip the maximum chance to sink. But if you're going to be at this game for the long-haul, you will want a sinking head/sinking line. Next to my floating line, it is the next most used line I have year round and in all kinds of places. One time on the Mobile Bay, my 250-grain sinking head saved a redfish trip in adverse conditions. It's what I use on the Bay (along with a floater on another rod).

3. I've been fly only for as long as I can remember, so you're better served elsewhere. But stop and take a look at what the Fletchers shack sells. They're some pretty heavy jigs to get down in current.

Hope this helps. Somewhat.

On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 3:23:29 PM UTC-4, Ben H wrote:

Apologies if some of these questions are very basic. Going to try rowboats from Fletcher's for the first time this week and wanted to know a few details.
1. Is a VA freshwater license valid in this stretch or is a D.C. License needed?
2. Full sinking line needed to catch shad from boat or will a sink tip suffice? Looks like flows will be normal for this time of year.
3. Also contemplating bringing some cheat gear (aka spinning tackle) for jigging striper. Any tips on lures and size/weight of spoons/jig heads much appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fletcher's cove questions

Hey Ben-

This may be a bit of the blind leading the blind, but...After visiting Fletcher's for the first time yesterday (no fishing, just wanted to see if I could find it and do a little recon), I went by the Orvis shop in Arlington to get set up to try for them.

1-You need a DC license. Not sure when and how this happened, but this part of the Potomac water jurisdiction extends to the VA shoreline for both MD and DC. As I understand, if you fish from the VA shoreline, a VA license is sufficient. If you're in the water wading or in a boat you need the opposite shore's license.

2- Orvis recommended an extra fast sink leader and 12 lbs. tippet.

3-No idea.

Hopefully some of the veterans of the Shad run will weigh in and help us both out. Tight lines!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fletcher's cove questions

Apologies if some of these questions are very basic. Going to try rowboats from Fletcher's for the first time this week and wanted to know a few details.

1. Is a VA freshwater license valid in this stretch or is a D.C. License needed?

2. Full sinking line needed to catch shad from boat or will a sink tip suffice? Looks like flows will be normal for this time of year.

3. Also contemplating bringing some cheat gear (aka spinning tackle) for jigging striper. Any tips on lures and size/weight of spoons/jig heads much appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Any experts out there know whether SNP is going to be blown out this weekend?

Went to a park stream on Friday 4.27. High but clear water and plenty of hungry fish. Conditions for dry flies should be better next week

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Saturday, 28 April 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fly Casting Rendezvous next Saturday

May 5th

Riverbottom Park, WIlliamsport MD

9am to 3pm

$25 for non FFI members

$20 for FFI members

The lead instructor will be

FFI Master Casting Instructor, Phil Gay

See the attached flier for more details.

Carl

Carl Zmola

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} San Juan, PR

I have fished for tarpon twice I Puerto Rico. The first time I fished lagoon near the international airport. This is nursery water for juvenile tarpon and, when I was there, they were rolling on th surface everywhere. The problem is that this is brackish water so you are not sight fishing. You cast to where the just rolled but they may no longer be there. Nonetheless my son and I caught tarpon. There are several guides/outfitters that work this area.

The second place I fish, and highly recommend, is a 2 1/2 hr drive from San Juan near the town of Boqueron on the Southwest corner of PR. There is a great captain who specializes on sight fishing to schools of juvenile tarpon up to 60lbs. His name is Capt Francisco "Pochy" Rosario, aka The Tarpon Hombre. He has a very nice flats boat and can furnish fly gear if necessary. We sight cast to, and caught, tarpon continually for the 4 hrs I hired him.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: beach fishing Florida Panhandle

Hi,

Many years ago Destin/Ft.Walton Beach was home for me and I try to make it back at least annually. For the beaches/jetties, sunrise/sunset are usually best regardless of season but otherwise try to fish a moving tide. From east to west, St. Andrews State Park in Panama City Beach has a short jetty with access to deep water in the pass, with shots at redfish, spanish mackerel, bonito, mangrove snappers available, and this time of year you'll see the occasional cobia swim through. You can't access the park at sunrise though, and it closes at sunset. North and West Bays are great places to kayak (preferably not on the weekend) since both have sea grasses; in fact I caught my first redfish on fly sightcasting in West Bay. Speckled trout and bluefish will keep you busy. Beaches in Destin can be good provided you find space away from other beachgoers. Lots of bluefish (again; keep in mind they seldom approach the sizes of their NE cousins), with shots at reds and pompano. Perhaps the best spot is around East Pass; the jetty on the east side is more accessible therefore more pressured but offers ladyfish, blues, spanish, pompano, reds, and small groupers if you can get your fly down to them. The west jetty is super long and not so safe (always go with a partner) but fishes better in my experience and hosts jack crevalle plus the other species mentioned. Choctawhatchee Bay has little grass thus you need to be mobile to find fish. Traveling west toward Pensacola, Navarre Beach State Park offers lots of space but you'll need to move around to find the fish. If you can find grass on the sound side you'll find speckled trout.

8 and 9 weights are fine. I seldom use a full floater vs. a sink tip or sinking head backed with a mono running line, and an intermediate on the beaches. Clousers, bendbacks, and minnow patterns in general work best. Your offshore guide can probably tell you what fish are eating inshore at this time of year.

Good luck!

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:36:22 AM UTC-4, Andrew LaVigne wrote:

Hello TPFR Hive Mind - I'm heading down to the Panama City Beach/Destin area next week, and I've convinced myself that getting up early every morning to fish seems like a good idea. I've got access to beaches on the gulf, as well as canoe/kayak on one of the brackish dune lakes in the area. I am doing one day with a guide, but that will likely be targeting amberjacks on some offshore reefs.

My flats & surf experience are limited, but I want to give this a real shot this year. I'll have 8 & 9 weight rods, with floating, sinking, and intermediate line options.

Any takes on timing, location, tides, flies are all welcome. Anyone tried in this neck of the woods before?

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Friday, 27 April 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Lower Access to Jeremy’s Run No Longer Available

I only hiked down where the trail crosses the stream twice, then walked a short distance to the next trail blaze, turned and then bushwhacked to the stream. The water was running fast since it had rained Tuesday night and it was overcast and a touch foggy. The trees are still mostly bare.

I like to try fishing dries only in the park (just personal preference) so I started with a size 16 orange stimulator and over the course of 3+ hours used a size 14 yellow stimulator (which did not float well enough in the fast water) and then a grey/white humpy. I caught a dozen or so fish, with the orange stim the most productive fly.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Any experts out there know whether SNP is going to be blown out this weekend?

I am by no means an expert though. There are many here that fish these streams far more often and for a greater number of years than me

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 4:18:37 PM UTC-4, Andrew Chaney wrote:

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Any experts out there know whether SNP is going to be blown out this weekend?

im sure fishing from skyline and hitting the upper portions of streams will be fine. Most streams are quite fishable except when we get exceptional amounts of rain

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Any experts out there know whether SNP is going to be blown out this weekend?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

I used to wear Bass Pro pants (Worldwide Sportsman) zip offs. It made it easier to stay cool when walking the flats.

Then I started fishing in the Carolinas and places with oyster bars would shred the bottom of the pant legs, and also in the Potomac and sliding down rocks or rubbing up against submerged boulders and old dam construction would rip the pants up.

I started fishing with Patagonia Guidewater pants, and have settled on Simms Guide pants, usually in tan. They both dry very quick and do not have zip off pants, which is fine because they're still light enough to keep me cool.

I have to hem my pants. 31" inseam. Thing to look for is IF you have to have your pants hemmed, make sure you buy pants that don't have snaps or buttons on the bottom that taper the ankle.

Regards,

From: Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Rob Snowhite <rob@robsnowhite.com>
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

I have been wearing Bass Pro quick dry pants for years. Zip off knees if I want to wear Magnum PI style shorts.
What I look for in wading pants is a shorter than normal inseam. When the pants get wet they are heavy and the legs will be pulled down and I end up stepping on my bottoms on the boat and getting tripped up when wading. I look for a 28" inseam to account for the added length the pants get when wet. I normally wear a 32".

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 3:25:43 PM UTC-4, Tim Donaldson wrote:

Been dialing in my gear and clothes for a trip to the Bahamas in 3 weeks. Question for anyone who was done any tropical flats wading:

Shorts or pants? I plan on being covered up completely up top, but I don't easily burn and would much rather wear shorts. Also, underneath should I wear my compression type smartwool boxer briefs? Something different?

I've done tons of surfcasting in surf shorts, but I'm concerned about chafing while covering ground on the flats. Any advice or insight would be appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Lower Access to Jeremy’s Run No Longer Available

For what it's worth, I truly believe top down is the best approach. Not a rigorous hike, and it's much prettier. You also get a good idea of what pools you want to hit on the way back up. I've done best when I put 1-2 hours of hiking in before heading back up, but have done well up near the top as well. I like to hike far enough down to get past the highly pressured upper areas, but not far enough down to avoid the highly pressured lower areas.

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 7:05:22 PM UTC-4, Jones wrote:

The lower access point to Jeremy's Run off of VA 611 Is no longer open. The trail head is now a gravel driveway to a construction site. It is posted no trespassing and a sign that states access to Jeremy's Run is no longer possible effective October 2017.

I'm sorry I didn't take a photo to share but I had only a small window to fish on Wednesday and was flustered by this turn of events. I instead drove around to the park and hiked in from the top. The rangers at the entrance were surprised to hear the news.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Monocacy River

The article is very informative. It sounds like a lot of people in Frederick have their hearts in the right place. It's definitely an issue that the whole community will need to address and agree on a plan to fix together.

When you fish the stream it is easy to see that it is too turbid, even during low water periods. Couple that with the surprisingly low numbers of fish, and the proportion of fish with structural abnormalities, as a fisherman it makes my amygdala twitch. It should be, and someday could be, prime smallmouth habitat. Right now I would say it is impaired. And as the article points out, that has down stream consequences as well.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

Been dialing in my gear and clothes for a trip to the Bahamas in 3 weeks. Question for anyone who was done any tropical flats wading:

Shorts or pants? I plan on being covered up completely up top, but I don't easily burn and would much rather wear shorts. Also, underneath should I wear my compression type smartwool boxer briefs? Something different?

I've done tons of surfcasting in surf shorts, but I'm concerned about chafing while covering ground on the flats. Any advice or insight would be appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} San Juan, PR

And I found no DIY spots.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} San Juan, PR

Connor,

I have fished with Capt Paco Mendez for both tarpon and peacock bass.

Website is http://www.peacockbassandtarpontours.com

Cell is ‭(787) 364-6000‬.

I fished with him 4 weeks ago and two years ago. On both trips I did saltwater and freshwater trips. In the salt, we managed baby tarpon and snook on the fly. In the fresh, we managed peacock bass and guapote on the fly.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Lower Access to Jeremy’s Run No Longer Available

Hi Jones,

They listed the closure on the NPS website: https://www.nps.gov/shen/planyourvisit/alerts.htm

"Jeremys Run Trail Boundary Access (October 31, 2017)
The boundary access to Jeremy's Run Trail across private property at State Route 611 is temporarily closed by the landowner. The park trail remains open. We ask that visitors respect the landowner's wishes and avoid this private property until further notice. The park is actively working to resolve the access situation."

It's not exactly something I'd check regularly, but I heard about on the NoVA TU google group a month ago or so.

How was the fishing, though?

Dalton

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 7:41:49 PM UTC-4, James M. wrote:

That's a shame. I fished Jeremy's from the top down a couple miles last summer and got nothing- there were a couple of good sized pools, but I didn't even see a single trout. I was hoping to fish from the bottom up to see if the water got any better.

How did it fish this time? Hopefully you did better than my last trip. How far down the trail did you make it?

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Thursday, 26 April 2018

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fishing near Tallahassee FL

Headed to Tallahassee and might have a couple of hours to kill. Have a car and will drive reasonable ~60min to fish.

Suggestions welcome.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} San Juan, PR

Hey guys,

I have to go to San Juan for work in a few weeks and I'm wondering if anyone has any guide/DIY recommendations in the area? Would love to check tarpon off my list.

Thanks for the help,

Connor

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Lower Access to Jeremy’s Run No Longer Available

That's a shame. I fished Jeremy's from the top down a couple miles last summer and got nothing- there were a couple of good sized pools, but I didn't even see a single trout. I was hoping to fish from the bottom up to see if the water got any better.

How did it fish this time? Hopefully you did better than my last trip. How far down the trail did you make it?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Lower Access to Jeremy’s Run No Longer Available

The lower access point to Jeremy's Run off of VA 611 Is no longer open. The trail head is now a gravel driveway to a construction site. It is posted no trespassing and a sign that states access to Jeremy's Run is no longer possible effective October 2017.

I'm sorry I didn't take a photo to share but I had only a small window to fish on Wednesday and was flustered by this turn of events. I instead drove around to the park and hiked in from the top. The rangers at the entrance were surprised to hear the news.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Monocacy River

News item from Frederick News-Post

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/environment/pollution/the-river-s-toll-how-the-monocacy-feeds-into-the/article_f21a7dde-7eb7-56c8-9170-1954f856392a.html

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Trout fishing

I've fished it once from mouth of Spruce Run downstream. It should be at a good level even after whatever rain we get tomorrow since it's kinda small and up in the mountains. Gorgeous stream in that section and the stocking update email today said they just put 1,600 fish in there.

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:22:57 PM UTC-4, Terry C wrote:

Has anyone been out trout fishing lately? I'm thinking about a couple of MD streams over the weekend if they don't get blown out with the next round of rain. Looking at Middle Creek does anyone have any thoughts on it. I have never fished it. thanks

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Trout fishing

Has anyone been out trout fishing lately? I'm thinking about a couple of MD streams over the weekend if they don't get blown out with the next round of rain. Looking at Middle Creek does anyone have any thoughts on it. I have never fished it. thanks

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

You probably gathered this from context, but my brothers chose shorts. Ergo the bug bites.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

Appreciate the advice everyone. Ordering some pants now. And Brad I hear you, I'll be packing my glide stick.

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:35:47 AM UTC-4, Brad wrote:

Pants. Used to be a shorts guy, but too many bad burns. I'll wear shorts still if I know it isn't going to be longer than a few hours.

As for chaffing, I've had chaffing nearly ruin a vacation. I also do a ton of mountain biking and hiking. I always carry a stick of Glide anti-chafe and a tube of Boudreaux's Butt Paste in my travel kit. Glide prevents chaffing and Boudreaux's will fix all but the worst chaffing overnight. I use the Glide any time I'm going riding and any time I'll be extensively wet wading.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:25:43 PM UTC-7, Tim Donaldson wrote:
Been dialing in my gear and clothes for a trip to the Bahamas in 3 weeks. Question for anyone who was done any tropical flats wading:

Shorts or pants? I plan on being covered up completely up top, but I don't easily burn and would much rather wear shorts. Also, underneath should I wear my compression type smartwool boxer briefs? Something different?

I've done tons of surfcasting in surf shorts, but I'm concerned about chafing while covering ground on the flats. Any advice or insight would be appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} beach fishing Florida Panhandle

Hello TPFR Hive Mind - I'm heading down to the Panama City Beach/Destin area next week, and I've convinced myself that getting up early every morning to fish seems like a good idea. I've got access to beaches on the gulf, as well as canoe/kayak on one of the brackish dune lakes in the area. I am doing one day with a guide, but that will likely be targeting amberjacks on some offshore reefs.

My flats & surf experience are limited, but I want to give this a real shot this year. I'll have 8 & 9 weight rods, with floating, sinking, and intermediate line options.

Any takes on timing, location, tides, flies are all welcome. Anyone tried in this neck of the woods before?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

Pants. Used to be a shorts guy, but too many bad burns. I'll wear shorts still if I know it isn't going to be longer than a few hours.

As for chaffing, I've had chaffing nearly ruin a vacation. I also do a ton of mountain biking and hiking. I always carry a stick of Glide anti-chafe and a tube of Boudreaux's Butt Paste in my travel kit. Glide prevents chaffing and Boudreaux's will fix all but the worst chaffing overnight. I use the Glide any time I'm going riding and any time I'll be extensively wet wading.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:25:43 PM UTC-7, Tim Donaldson wrote:

Been dialing in my gear and clothes for a trip to the Bahamas in 3 weeks. Question for anyone who was done any tropical flats wading:

Shorts or pants? I plan on being covered up completely up top, but I don't easily burn and would much rather wear shorts. Also, underneath should I wear my compression type smartwool boxer briefs? Something different?

I've done tons of surfcasting in surf shorts, but I'm concerned about chafing while covering ground on the flats. Any advice or insight would be appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

Pants. You won't have to worry about sunburned calves and shins. Get some really light pants that dry quick.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 3:25:43 PM UTC-4, Tim Donaldson wrote:

Been dialing in my gear and clothes for a trip to the Bahamas in 3 weeks. Question for anyone who was done any tropical flats wading:

Shorts or pants? I plan on being covered up completely up top, but I don't easily burn and would much rather wear shorts. Also, underneath should I wear my compression type smartwool boxer briefs? Something different?

I've done tons of surfcasting in surf shorts, but I'm concerned about chafing while covering ground on the flats. Any advice or insight would be appreciated.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

Pants! For me this is not a close call.

I am 50 years old and have had precancerous areas removed from my skin several times. Outdoors folks have to be careful.

Reason 2–I was in Puerto Rico fishing with my brothers in March. They chose short sleeves and pants. For a few minutes the first morning the no-see-ums were unbearable. My brothers' legs were in serious discomfort for days after our return.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

I'd go with pants - one more layer between you and the sun, as well as anything you might brush up against or have run into you. Also, I think my dark green pants are far less conspicuous than my white or tanned legs.

Remember to not fiddle with fish down at the waterline - hungry barracuda could slash the fish and your fingers and put a real damper in you day....

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

As always it depends.

Most of the flats fishing I've done has been from the deck of a flats boat. You can see so much better from up there it makes a world of difference.

If that's what you'll be doing, then 100% pants. Even if you don't burn easily, the sun out there is so strong you need to be careful. Last time I went (near Cancun), our guide must have had less than 1 square inch of skin showing, and he was very dark skinned.

If you're going to be wading, might be able to get away with shorts, but I'd worry about the space between the surface of the water and the bottom of your shorts (or even higher, depending on the angle of the sun. Yikes). The water can be as shallow as 18 inches, which could leave a fair bit of your legs exposed both to direct sun and reflection off the water.

I have lightweight pants from LLBean with legs that can zip off and on around mid thigh. Something like that might do the trick. They're light weight enough that I was pretty comfortable on a full day flats trip in 90 degree weather.

As for chafing, I don't know about you, but my problem is generally well north of the point where the pant/short distinction no longer matters. Never really been bad, but salt water isn't kind.

Full disclosure: I'm paler than most of the fish you've ever seen, so I'm a bit paranoid about covering up. Last time I managed to get burnt between the end of my long sleeves and the beginning of my sun gloves.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 4:36:27 PM UTC-4, Yambag Nelson wrote:

Either work just fine. I would wear shorts if I was exclusively wading. I prefer pants if I am on a boat. Personal opinion, but I wouldn't focus on trying to cover ground.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 3:49:15 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Completely personal preference. I wear pants, but the only times I've ever waded have been for part of the day and the rest was on the bow of the boat. I don't burn much either, but pants mean I don't have to worry about sunscreen at all. Plus, if I get hot, I can dip my legs in and even though they're quick dry, they stay damp longer than bare skin, so it keeps me cool longer. I wore regular boxers every time I waded the flats. The only time I went deeper than just above the knee was to get out of the boat at high tide. A good pair of flats boots will be critical though if you're expecting lots of coral.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Tim Donaldson <timdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
Been dialing in my gear and clothes for a trip to the Bahamas in 3 weeks. Question for anyone who was done any tropical flats wading:

Shorts or pants? I plan on being covered up completely up top, but I don't easily burn and would much rather wear shorts. Also, underneath should I wear my compression type smartwool boxer briefs? Something different?

I've done tons of surfcasting in surf shorts, but I'm concerned about chafing while covering ground on the flats. Any advice or insight would be appreciated.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shorts vs Pants for flats wading

Either work just fine. I would wear shorts if I was exclusively wading. I prefer pants if I am on a boat. Personal opinion, but I wouldn't focus on trying to cover ground.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 3:49:15 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

Completely personal preference. I wear pants, but the only times I've ever waded have been for part of the day and the rest was on the bow of the boat. I don't burn much either, but pants mean I don't have to worry about sunscreen at all. Plus, if I get hot, I can dip my legs in and even though they're quick dry, they stay damp longer than bare skin, so it keeps me cool longer. I wore regular boxers every time I waded the flats. The only time I went deeper than just above the knee was to get out of the boat at high tide. A good pair of flats boots will be critical though if you're expecting lots of coral.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Tim Donaldson <timdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
Been dialing in my gear and clothes for a trip to the Bahamas in 3 weeks. Question for anyone who was done any tropical flats wading:

Shorts or pants? I plan on being covered up completely up top, but I don't easily burn and would much rather wear shorts. Also, underneath should I wear my compression type smartwool boxer briefs? Something different?

I've done tons of surfcasting in surf shorts, but I'm concerned about chafing while covering ground on the flats. Any advice or insight would be appreciated.

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