Wednesday, 31 December 2014

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salmon river trip

Have a great time.

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> On Dec 31, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Terry C <flycstrva56@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 3-5". Ha😣 woke up to over a foot. Fished in a near blizzard swinging flies no tugs today. Switching tactics for tomorrow nymphs , eggs, San juan worms. Expecting another foot of snow. Lake affect 😝 winter steelheading at its beat. Happy New Years 🎉
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salmon river trip

3-5". Ha😣 woke up to over a foot. Fished in a near blizzard swinging flies no tugs today. Switching tactics for tomorrow nymphs , eggs, San juan worms. Expecting another foot of snow. Lake affect 😝 winter steelheading at its beat. Happy New Years 🎉

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Help naming leader material

You can also go the route of making a slinky indicator with just high vis mono(common in saltwater fishing)...
http://www.ginkandgasoline.com/fly-fishing-tips-technique/get-slinky-with-your-indicator/

On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 10:06:13 AM UTC-5, Danny Barrett wrote:

Happy holidays,

I met a nice guy fishing the Jackson river in VA earlier in the month. He had this seemingly florescent red and green and red portion in the top of his leader for a strike indicator.  He explained it as 2 spools of material he tied together with a uni knot.  But I forget the name of that material. Does anyone happen to know what I'm talking about?  It seemed to be a better indicator then the floats I currently use and seemed easy to make.  I'm sorry for the poor discription.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salmon river trip

Should be loads more snow coming your way. Tell everyone at the Lodge I said hello.
 
Rob Snowhite


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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salmon river trip

Try typing that as soon as you come off the river. ;-)  Nice way to spend  New Years.

Tight lines and dry socks. 

Mark


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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Salmon river trip

Try typing that as soon as you come off the river. ;-)  Nice way to spend  New Years.

Tight lines and dry socks. 

Mark


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Help naming leader material

I can't resist... you couldn't remember the name of the material was called Amnesia?! Oh, the irony!

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

That sounds like it. Is that something any orvis or dicks like store would carry?
Thank you so much

Dan Barrett
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On Dec 31, 2014 10:16 AM, "Rob Snowhite" <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:
Could be Amnesia running line. I use it on all my lines between line and leader. 

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On Dec 31, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

Happy holidays,

I met a nice guy fishing the Jackson river in VA earlier in the month. He had this seemingly florescent red and green and red portion in the top of his leader for a strike indicator.  He explained it as 2 spools of material he tied together with a uni knot.  But I forget the name of that material. Does anyone happen to know what I'm talking about?  It seemed to be a better indicator then the floats I currently use and seemed easy to make.  I'm sorry for the poor discription.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} New Interactive Map for Maryland

Perhaps, I wasn't paying attention, but today when I purchased my Maryland license for 2015, I discovered MD DNR now has this interactive map, http://gisapps.dnr.state.md.us/PublicFishingAccess/index.html

Tight lines, dry socks and happy new year!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Help naming leader material

That sounds like it. Is that something any orvis or dicks like store would carry?
Thank you so much

Dan Barrett
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On Dec 31, 2014 10:16 AM, "Rob Snowhite" <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:
Could be Amnesia running line. I use it on all my lines between line and leader. 

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On Dec 31, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

Happy holidays,

I met a nice guy fishing the Jackson river in VA earlier in the month. He had this seemingly florescent red and green and red portion in the top of his leader for a strike indicator.  He explained it as 2 spools of material he tied together with a uni knot.  But I forget the name of that material. Does anyone happen to know what I'm talking about?  It seemed to be a better indicator then the floats I currently use and seemed easy to make.  I'm sorry for the poor discription.

Thanks,

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Could be Amnesia running line. I use it on all my lines between line and leader. 

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On Dec 31, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

Happy holidays,

I met a nice guy fishing the Jackson river in VA earlier in the month. He had this seemingly florescent red and green and red portion in the top of his leader for a strike indicator.  He explained it as 2 spools of material he tied together with a uni knot.  But I forget the name of that material. Does anyone happen to know what I'm talking about?  It seemed to be a better indicator then the floats I currently use and seemed easy to make.  I'm sorry for the poor discription.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Help naming leader material

Happy holidays,

I met a nice guy fishing the Jackson river in VA earlier in the month. He had this seemingly florescent red and green and red portion in the top of his leader for a strike indicator.  He explained it as 2 spools of material he tied together with a uni knot.  But I forget the name of that material. Does anyone happen to know what I'm talking about?  It seemed to be a better indicator then the floats I currently use and seemed easy to make.  I'm sorry for the poor discription.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Striped Bass Telemetry in the Mid Atlantic

Fascinating Work!
http://fishconnectivity.cbl.umces.edu/PAST
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Tuesday, 30 December 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Salmon river trip

Regan and I just arrived in Pulaski 10:00pm Tues. 18 degrees, 3-5 in of snow tonight , and we will be swinging flies for steelhead the next 2 days. Doesn't get any better.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Portable Fish Finder?

Forgot to mention - the battery holder and most of the extra wire/cords fits really nicely into a "standard" sized soap dish if you drill a hole to pass the cord through.  I think mine was $1 at CVS. 

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Andy Rheuban <andy.rheuban@gmail.com> wrote:

If you don't want to drill into your boat to mount the transducer, I'd consider epoxying one of those RAM arm mounts to the side. I really am pleased with how well they've worked - I have 3 of them (fish finder monitor, fish finder transducer + arm, rod holder)  mounted across an accessory bar at the front of mine.  I'd also be concerned about the suction cup failing and losing the transducer.

I suspect its not helping me find fish because I don't really know how to use it all that well =).  I feel like I get more false positives then anything else.  However, it is really useful for reading bottom structure, depth, and temperature, which does in turn put me on more fish. 

On Dec 30, 2014 10:49 AM, "Rex Moore" <rexmoore@gmail.com> wrote:
Nicely rigged, Andy! My only question is why isn't the fish finder finding fish for you?  Haha...

Actually, I'm also looking at something with a suction cup holder for the transducer, like the "Humminbird 4089701 571 HD DI Portable Down Imaging and DualBeam Fishfinder with Soft Portable Case." If that sticks to the side of the kayak then I wouldn't have to be drilling holes in it for a mount. AND, if your battery setup works for it, that's icing on the cake. However, it might be a bit too big for the kayak.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andy Rheuban <andy.rheuban@gmail.com> wrote:
I sometimes fish from an inflatable kayak and had trouble finding a fish finder that used a battery wouldn't damage my kayak due to weight.  

After searching online, I figured out that I could run a Garmin Echo off of 8 AA batteries, so I bought this inexpensive battery carrierthese connectors, and 8 rechargeable AA batteries, this transducer arm mount, and a bunch of 1" ball and socket RAM mounts and rigged it up.  It works great (mostly as a depth finder - I haven't actually had much luck using it to find fish) and everything quickly comes apart when I deflate my kayak for storage.

The batteries last a surprisingly long time - a couple of weeks of frequent summer fishing in between charges.

This setup would probably work for any model fish finder - but I used a Garmin Echo as it was small, lightweight and cheap. 

Hope it helps!

On Monday, December 29, 2014 3:24:29 PM UTC-5, Rex Moore wrote:

I'm looking for suggestions, and there's very little in the archives on this topic. I'd like a finder that I could use on a kayak, or take with me in other situations. I don't have one of those nice fishing kayaks that have a dedicated battery compartment and the ability to mount the transducer underneath.

 

The Humminbird 140C Fishin' Buddy 3.5-Inch Waterproof Fishfinder seems pretty neat because it will run on AA batteries (so no need for the bigger batter and case on the yak). I'm just wondering if I'd be able to mount it properly on the kayak. Might have to modify something, which I'm not so good at.  J

 

Thanks,

 

Rex


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Portable Fish Finder?

If you don't want to drill into your boat to mount the transducer, I'd consider epoxying one of those RAM arm mounts to the side. I really am pleased with how well they've worked - I have 3 of them (fish finder monitor, fish finder transducer + arm, rod holder)  mounted across an accessory bar at the front of mine.  I'd also be concerned about the suction cup failing and losing the transducer.

I suspect its not helping me find fish because I don't really know how to use it all that well =).  I feel like I get more false positives then anything else.  However, it is really useful for reading bottom structure, depth, and temperature, which does in turn put me on more fish. 

On Dec 30, 2014 10:49 AM, "Rex Moore" <rexmoore@gmail.com> wrote:
Nicely rigged, Andy! My only question is why isn't the fish finder finding fish for you?  Haha...

Actually, I'm also looking at something with a suction cup holder for the transducer, like the "Humminbird 4089701 571 HD DI Portable Down Imaging and DualBeam Fishfinder with Soft Portable Case." If that sticks to the side of the kayak then I wouldn't have to be drilling holes in it for a mount. AND, if your battery setup works for it, that's icing on the cake. However, it might be a bit too big for the kayak.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andy Rheuban <andy.rheuban@gmail.com> wrote:
I sometimes fish from an inflatable kayak and had trouble finding a fish finder that used a battery wouldn't damage my kayak due to weight.  

After searching online, I figured out that I could run a Garmin Echo off of 8 AA batteries, so I bought this inexpensive battery carrierthese connectors, and 8 rechargeable AA batteries, this transducer arm mount, and a bunch of 1" ball and socket RAM mounts and rigged it up.  It works great (mostly as a depth finder - I haven't actually had much luck using it to find fish) and everything quickly comes apart when I deflate my kayak for storage.

The batteries last a surprisingly long time - a couple of weeks of frequent summer fishing in between charges.

This setup would probably work for any model fish finder - but I used a Garmin Echo as it was small, lightweight and cheap. 

Hope it helps!

On Monday, December 29, 2014 3:24:29 PM UTC-5, Rex Moore wrote:

I'm looking for suggestions, and there's very little in the archives on this topic. I'd like a finder that I could use on a kayak, or take with me in other situations. I don't have one of those nice fishing kayaks that have a dedicated battery compartment and the ability to mount the transducer underneath.

 

The Humminbird 140C Fishin' Buddy 3.5-Inch Waterproof Fishfinder seems pretty neat because it will run on AA batteries (so no need for the bigger batter and case on the yak). I'm just wondering if I'd be able to mount it properly on the kayak. Might have to modify something, which I'm not so good at.  J

 

Thanks,

 

Rex


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Portable Fish Finder?

Nicely rigged, Andy! My only question is why isn't the fish finder finding fish for you?  Haha...

Actually, I'm also looking at something with a suction cup holder for the transducer, like the "Humminbird 4089701 571 HD DI Portable Down Imaging and DualBeam Fishfinder with Soft Portable Case." If that sticks to the side of the kayak then I wouldn't have to be drilling holes in it for a mount. AND, if your battery setup works for it, that's icing on the cake. However, it might be a bit too big for the kayak.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Andy Rheuban <andy.rheuban@gmail.com> wrote:
I sometimes fish from an inflatable kayak and had trouble finding a fish finder that used a battery wouldn't damage my kayak due to weight.  

After searching online, I figured out that I could run a Garmin Echo off of 8 AA batteries, so I bought this inexpensive battery carrierthese connectors, and 8 rechargeable AA batteries, this transducer arm mount, and a bunch of 1" ball and socket RAM mounts and rigged it up.  It works great (mostly as a depth finder - I haven't actually had much luck using it to find fish) and everything quickly comes apart when I deflate my kayak for storage.

The batteries last a surprisingly long time - a couple of weeks of frequent summer fishing in between charges.

This setup would probably work for any model fish finder - but I used a Garmin Echo as it was small, lightweight and cheap. 

Hope it helps!

On Monday, December 29, 2014 3:24:29 PM UTC-5, Rex Moore wrote:

I'm looking for suggestions, and there's very little in the archives on this topic. I'd like a finder that I could use on a kayak, or take with me in other situations. I don't have one of those nice fishing kayaks that have a dedicated battery compartment and the ability to mount the transducer underneath.

 

The Humminbird 140C Fishin' Buddy 3.5-Inch Waterproof Fishfinder seems pretty neat because it will run on AA batteries (so no need for the bigger batter and case on the yak). I'm just wondering if I'd be able to mount it properly on the kayak. Might have to modify something, which I'm not so good at.  J

 

Thanks,

 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Pamlico River in January

I am going to be in Greenville NC for work in mid-January.  Has anyone fished for stripers there?  Any thoughts on self guided wading vs. renting a boat vs. hiring a guide?  I know my odds go way up with a guide but trying to keep my costs low.  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!!!  Tim 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Back to Fishing

Ha that was such a freak fish. I'll have to look around and see if I have the pic somewhere.


On Monday, December 29, 2014 10:23:43 AM UTC-5, Rob Snowhite wrote:
Crucian and mirror carp.

Haven't seen a mirror in there before, looks a little like the ornamental fish Remick pulled out a few  years back.

 

 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Portable Fish Finder?

I sometimes fish from an inflatable kayak and had trouble finding a fish finder that used a battery wouldn't damage my kayak due to weight.  

After searching online, I figured out that I could run a Garmin Echo off of 8 AA batteries, so I bought this inexpensive battery carrierthese connectors, and 8 rechargeable AA batteries, this transducer arm mount, and a bunch of 1" ball and socket RAM mounts and rigged it up.  It works great (mostly as a depth finder - I haven't actually had much luck using it to find fish) and everything quickly comes apart when I deflate my kayak for storage.

The batteries last a surprisingly long time - a couple of weeks of frequent summer fishing in between charges.

This setup would probably work for any model fish finder - but I used a Garmin Echo as it was small, lightweight and cheap. 

Hope it helps!

On Monday, December 29, 2014 3:24:29 PM UTC-5, Rex Moore wrote:

I'm looking for suggestions, and there's very little in the archives on this topic. I'd like a finder that I could use on a kayak, or take with me in other situations. I don't have one of those nice fishing kayaks that have a dedicated battery compartment and the ability to mount the transducer underneath.

 

The Humminbird 140C Fishin' Buddy 3.5-Inch Waterproof Fishfinder seems pretty neat because it will run on AA batteries (so no need for the bigger batter and case on the yak). I'm just wondering if I'd be able to mount it properly on the kayak. Might have to modify something, which I'm not so good at.  J

 

Thanks,

 

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Monday, 29 December 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Best Portable Fish Finder?

I'm looking for suggestions, and there's very little in the archives on this topic. I'd like a finder that I could use on a kayak, or take with me in other situations. I don't have one of those nice fishing kayaks that have a dedicated battery compartment and the ability to mount the transducer underneath.

 

The Humminbird 140C Fishin' Buddy 3.5-Inch Waterproof Fishfinder seems pretty neat because it will run on AA batteries (so no need for the bigger batter and case on the yak). I'm just wondering if I'd be able to mount it properly on the kayak. Might have to modify something, which I'm not so good at.  J

 

Thanks,

 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Back to Fishing

Crucian and mirror carp.

Haven't seen a mirror in there before, looks a little like the ornamental fish Remick pulled out a few  years back.

 

 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Back to Fishing

Todd: you clearly don't need any help from the other carpers here. But 20141228_164947.jpg looks much like it's some other carp species as Misha points out.

Misha: you're from Jersey too?

Mark (Exit 135, Clark Griswold)

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Back to Fishing

Does anyone else suspect that these carp are a different version of carp than the common carp? I remember reading about roach in my giant "Encyclopedia of Fishing" book when I was a kid. My understanding from the book was that roach were most commonly found in Europe. I do remember catching them in Verona Park in New Jersey though.

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Sunday, 28 December 2014

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Back to Fishing

Hello folks,

I finally had some time to fish recently. I had a 6 month long project that kept me away from fishing.

I was fishing at the 4 MR a couple of days ago and saw a fly fisher catching a bluegill almost every cast by the bridge piling.

I used a carbon fiber pole with bait and was able to catch various species. 

 

Tight Lines,

 

Todd 

 

 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4MR Canoe Access

Thanks Rob!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4MR Canoe Access

End of commonwealth Ave. Frank Mann field. Easier at higher tides.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Holmes Run Tenkara

Nice catch. I enjoy my Ten Kara and always have it with on family hikes because it is light and small

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Happy Holidays to everyone! Anyone know where to launch a canoe at Four Mile Run?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re:

 Interesting.  I haven't cast the helios, but my beaulah 11 foot 8 weight is rated for like a 425 grain Skagit.

On Friday, December 26, 2014 10:13:01 PM UTC-5, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:
Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

Dan Davala


On Friday, December 26, 2014, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:
What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:42:39 PM UTC-5, Danny Barrett wrote:

Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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Agree.  Nearly all US manufacturers and most European ones rate switch rods for two-hand lines.

On Saturday, December 27, 2014, John Bilotta <jbilotta@obassociates.net> wrote:
Usually Spey weights. 

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On Dec 27, 2014, at 7:01 PM, "Carl Z." <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

Are switch rods usually rated with single hand line weights or spey line weights?  When I first read the question, I assumed 8wt was for a single hand weight, but 500grains seems like a spey line weight for an 8wt.  

Does it depend on manufacturer?  I thought I saw single hand weight ratings on some switch rods.


On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

Alright. Thanks for all the info. I will have to reach out to him. I'm in northern VA for the holidays.

Dan Barrett
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On Dec 27, 2014 9:22 AM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
SWEET ROD - nice gift!  Well, we rate that rod for 500 grains for skagit, but I've cast it with more.  Key piece of data is your intention to toss some pretty good size flies.  Simply put, it takes mass to move mass, so depending on how beefy the flies are you may want to err on the slightly heavy side.  525 might be a good compromise.  

John Bilotta has pretty much every head produced for the last five years or so.  It may be in your best interest to hit him up for a lesson/ line selection session.  That way, you can get your technique right, then switch out heads in 25 grain increments until you get the feel you personally like.  Best to bring along some of your large patterns too.  Chucking yarn is a bit different than large flies.  To get the big stuff to fly, it can sometimes take an adjustment on anchor placement and tip selection.  It's amazing the impact that either can have.  Have fun in the process, you'll most likely end up with several different heads to do different work which will make for an incredibly versatile setup.

Dan Davala

On Saturday, December 27, 2014, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

It's a orvis helios 2 8 switch. Thank you so far for the input.

Dan Barrett
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Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

Dan Davala


On Friday, December 26, 2014, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:
What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.
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Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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Usually Spey weights. 

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On Dec 27, 2014, at 7:01 PM, "Carl Z." <carl.zmola0@gmail.com> wrote:

Are switch rods usually rated with single hand line weights or spey line weights?  When I first read the question, I assumed 8wt was for a single hand weight, but 500grains seems like a spey line weight for an 8wt.  

Does it depend on manufacturer?  I thought I saw single hand weight ratings on some switch rods.


On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

Alright. Thanks for all the info. I will have to reach out to him. I'm in northern VA for the holidays.

Dan Barrett
540-222-8064

On Dec 27, 2014 9:22 AM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
SWEET ROD - nice gift!  Well, we rate that rod for 500 grains for skagit, but I've cast it with more.  Key piece of data is your intention to toss some pretty good size flies.  Simply put, it takes mass to move mass, so depending on how beefy the flies are you may want to err on the slightly heavy side.  525 might be a good compromise.  

John Bilotta has pretty much every head produced for the last five years or so.  It may be in your best interest to hit him up for a lesson/ line selection session.  That way, you can get your technique right, then switch out heads in 25 grain increments until you get the feel you personally like.  Best to bring along some of your large patterns too.  Chucking yarn is a bit different than large flies.  To get the big stuff to fly, it can sometimes take an adjustment on anchor placement and tip selection.  It's amazing the impact that either can have.  Have fun in the process, you'll most likely end up with several different heads to do different work which will make for an incredibly versatile setup.

Dan Davala

On Saturday, December 27, 2014, Danny Barrett <dannytbarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

It's a orvis helios 2 8 switch. Thank you so far for the input.

Dan Barrett
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On Dec 26, 2014 10:13 PM, "Daniel Davala" <daniel.davala@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

Dan Davala


On Friday, December 26, 2014, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:
What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:42:39 PM UTC-5, Danny Barrett wrote:

Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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