Sunday, 31 March 2013

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Suggestions for a Fly Fishing Weekend Getaway for 2?

There are some bed and breakfast's up in Boiling Springs, PA and the
Allenberry "Resort" which includes a theater show. I can't claim any
knowledge of the lodging up there, but the fishing on the Yellow
Breeches is good year round.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Eric Y. <theericyoung@gmail.com> wrote:
> Homestead waters are good. But if your trip is more about the resort and
> fishing is just the icing on the cake (I've found this to be true when my
> own agrees to something like this), Primland is where it is at. My first job
> out of college, we used to get taken down there by a paving company for
> three days of pheasant hunting. Primland knocks the socks off the Homestead
> and the Greenbrier. FWIW, it is apparently a favorite spot of Perk Perkins.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:05:06 AM UTC-4, Alex Woods wrote:
>>
>> The Homestead has private water. It is catch and release only and I
>> suspect that beyond just stocking it they are actively putting food in
>> there. I have never seen so many fish in such a small amount of water. It's
>> a little trickle of a stream in dense forest, maybe three to five feet wide
>> with pools every thirty feet or so, and each pool has at least three hundred
>> trout in it. I'm exaggerating, but it did remind me of the story about the
>> Hudson before Europeans showed up, that you could walk across it on the
>> backs of the sturgeons. There is no need for waders, and you would do best
>> with a very short, light rod. I was fishing Tenkara there and ironically it
>> was almost impossible to get a good cast because of all the low branches.
>> Even doing slingshot casts, which I consider cheating, I would hit trees on
>> the wrong side of the pool. You're probably not doing Tenkara but if you are
>> bring your shortest line. Fun and challenging fishing. Also the Homestead is
>> a really nice place, great for a weekend getaway.
>>
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} BEER TIE, BEER TIE, BEER TIE TONIGHT (AND TPFR 4-YEAR ANNIVERSARY PARTY)!!!!!

This is a reminder to all that the next TPFR BEER TIE is tonight, Monday, April 1, from 7PM-9PM (which by now you all know means 6PM-10PM!) at Whitlow's on Wilson!!!!  Details and Directions to Whitlow's can be found on our TPFR EVENTS PAGE.  This is a particularly special BEER TIE because it is also the exact night Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders turns 4-years old!  Hard to believe I know, and it is now hard to even imagine the D.C. fly fishing scene without it.  Thank you all for continuing to make TPFR what it is! 
 
A few stats - we close out our fourth year with 1013 registered members (and who knows how many non-registered readers).  Our forum is more active than ever with over 600 posts in the month of March alone and nearly 1500 this year so far!  Thank you to all who regularly contribute - you have helped make the TPFR Forum the real time pulse for our local fishery and a truly incredible resource for all.
 
We plan to pilot a new program for our fifth year this evening as well, and yes, it involves alcohol (is that bad?).  To help us ring in a new TPFR year, we are pleased to have Neale Walker with us who is an area rep for a wide range of Scotch and Whiskey distributors, and he will have a few of his favorite offerings available to try out.  We plan to fund raise a bit off of this, so there will be a small ticket fee to partake in the tasting.  If you like a particular spirit, please consider purchasing a glass from the bar to support our host (Whitlow's) as well.  If things go well with this tonight, expect to see Neale and his choice libations at many future BEER TIES!  
 
Additionally, our anniversary party is typically when we "pass the plate" for a Spring Fund Raiser, so please bring an offering if you can in cash or check form.  Melody has official TPFR letterhead donation receipts that she can give you for tax purposes right on the spot.  As you know, whatever you give will only be poured right back into the club, so helping us helps you!  We'll have a raffle as usual, so bring cash for a few tickets ($1 for 1 ticket or $5 for 6). 
 
I am also SUPER EXCITED to report that we now have some awesome, high quality TPFR stickers for sale for $2 each or $5 for 3.  Did I ever tell you I like stickers!  Be sure to buy  few and put them everywhere - rod tubes, stripping baskets, strangers cars, Metro stations, etc.  We also have TPFR hats in stock again, in any color you want as long as it's brown (other options presently on back order).  Hats are $20 each.
 
I am looking forward to a record crowd tonight at Whitlow's.  I know the Nats are playing, but that's a daytime game.  Consider it a warm up for the main event - BEER TIE!
 
Happy 4th Birthday TPFR!!!!!!!!!
 
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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 'Classic' Shad Flies

Love it! Thanks for sharing!

 

From: tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com [mailto:tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Miles
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 'Classic' Shad Flies

 

Had an older gentleman come into the shop looking for some 0x, so I asked him if he wanted some shad flies. "Those aren't shad flies," he said.

A few days later he came back with a box -- "Now here's some shad flies." They look like tiny salmon flies to me, but whatever. He said his dad grew up in New Hampshire and moved down here after the first world war. Apparently, back then it was major expedition to get back north for fishing, so anglers from New England adapted the techniques and tactics to whatever was around. The box was his dad's, back in the day.

He let me take a couple photos of the flies with my phone -- some of them were falling apart when I got them out of the box. I gather some of these patterns are a century or so old, but probably Tommy's Torpedoes or Snowhite's flies are way more effective. I thought they would be interesting for the more history/tradition-minded anglers -- sorry I'm just now getting them posted.

By far the best part of working in a fishing shop is older guys telling me how much better everything used to be.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 'Classic' Shad Flies

Had an older gentleman come into the shop looking for some 0x, so I asked him if he wanted some shad flies. "Those aren't shad flies," he said.

A few days later he came back with a box -- "Now here's some shad flies." They look like tiny salmon flies to me, but whatever. He said his dad grew up in New Hampshire and moved down here after the first world war. Apparently, back then it was major expedition to get back north for fishing, so anglers from New England adapted the techniques and tactics to whatever was around. The box was his dad's, back in the day.

He let me take a couple photos of the flies with my phone -- some of them were falling apart when I got them out of the box. I gather some of these patterns are a century or so old, but probably Tommy's Torpedoes or Snowhite's flies are way more effective. I thought they would be interesting for the more history/tradition-minded anglers -- sorry I'm just now getting them posted.

By far the best part of working in a fishing shop is older guys telling me how much better everything used to be.

--Miles

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead

I held down Walker's for a few hours Saturday morning while I worked out a few early season kinks.  Had a few hits but brought none to shore.  The guys on the boats seemed to be faring well around 9-10am or so.  One guy on spin just downstream of the point had a dozen+ to hand in a few hours, looked to be all the typical sized hickories.  A guy on fly just up from the point had a few as well.  I was not getting down quite as far as I needed to be with 11ft of T-11, pretty deep off that point.  Still a few more kinks to work out.  

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead

Well I was out yesterday and caught 3 hickories around noon, had 2 more come off near the boat... one of which was a very large fish. 

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:07:21 PM UTC-7, HeaveToo wrote:
I am wondering if anyone is going after Shad this weekend and, if so, how they did.

I am also wondering if anyone is seeing any snakehead yet.  They should start moving around soon.  I am thinking about targeting them soon in the back of the Occoquan. 

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Spent a few hours out today, though more casting lesson than actually fishing.  Got skunked...


On Sunday, March 31, 2013 6:31:29 PM UTC-4, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:
Got a few between 1PM and 2PM - upstream from Fletcher's after giving a lesson today.  The bite is definitely soft and the fight is pretty lethargic compared to what it will be once the water temp gets into the 50's.  Fish were deep too.  I fished an Intermediate Skagit head with  15' type 8 tip and counted it down 25 seconds into a seam.  Short strips were good, though a bit slower tempo than normal. 
 
Happy Easter,
 
Dan Davala

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Sam Hauser <slhau...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been out several times and it seems like the afternoon bite is the best bet right now. Gotten into em around 4 on a couple days but all the mornings I have tried left me skunked. Highly doubt there are any Americans yet

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On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.

On Mar 31, 2013 10:45 AM, "HeaveToo" <cpd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad? 

I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days.. 

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Got a few between 1PM and 2PM - upstream from Fletcher's after giving a lesson today.  The bite is definitely soft and the fight is pretty lethargic compared to what it will be once the water temp gets into the 50's.  Fish were deep too.  I fished an Intermediate Skagit head with  15' type 8 tip and counted it down 25 seconds into a seam.  Short strips were good, though a bit slower tempo than normal. 
 
Happy Easter,
 
Dan Davala

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Sam Hauser <slhauser911@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been out several times and it seems like the afternoon bite is the best bet right now. Gotten into em around 4 on a couple days but all the mornings I have tried left me skunked. Highly doubt there are any Americans yet

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On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:

Just spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.

On Mar 31, 2013 10:45 AM, "HeaveToo" <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:
Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad? 

I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days.. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Very Large Hickory (note color of fly) Nice Fish Sandy!


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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead

I have been out several times and it seems like the afternoon bite is the best bet right now. Gotten into em around 4 on a couple days but all the mornings I have tried left me skunked. Highly doubt there are any Americans yet

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On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffreysilvan@gmail.com> wrote:

Just spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.

On Mar 31, 2013 10:45 AM, "HeaveToo" <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:
Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad? 

I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days.. 

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Just spent a couple hours at chain bridge and got skunked. There were several spin fisherman in the area that also got skunked. Lots of birds hunting.

On Mar 31, 2013 10:45 AM, "HeaveToo" <cpd032@hotmail.com> wrote:
Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad? 

I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days.. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: fishing in West Virginia

Pipestem Sate park has opportunities for both fly fishing and horse back riding.

On Friday, March 29, 2013 3:26:30 PM UTC-4, Walter Ryan wrote:
Casey Peltier, for whom I occasionally tie flies, suggested I post these questions here.  We will be in the Fayetteville, West Virginia area in the last part of April and early May.  What are the fishing opportunities there?  Are there horseback trail riding opportunities there?  Thanks in advance and if any come to New Hampshire I will be glad to reciprocate.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead

Are the Americans in or are you just catching Hickory Shad? 

I am tempted to hit the Rappahannock in the next few days.. 

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I caught several this morning above Fletcher's. i was fishing a skagit with a t11 tip. 
John

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On Mar 31, 2013, at 9:48 AM, peter odell <peterlodell@gmail.com> wrote:

I went Friday for about 3 hours and caught 2.    Water was cold and it was really windy. 
 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Shad and Snakehead

I got skunked above chainbridge around high tide yesterday 

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I went Friday for about 3 hours and caught 2.    Water was cold and it was really windy. 
 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Pictures and report - Current, MO (last post, I promise)

Oh, and that's not a warbler.  It's a vireo -- apologies to any spring-migrant experts out there.  That is a real domestic short-hair though. 
 

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Just a few pics -- we're glad to be home and really look forward to shad and local fishing.  I have a new appreciation for rainbow trout, but I still think you can't beat bluegill ;). 
I won't rehash the same crap I posted in the other "current river" thread -- summary:  weather was cold (but interesting), family/friends were excellent, wet fly swing was my #1 choice. 
 
Oh!  BTW - I noticed something in MO now that I've been living here for 4.3 some odd years.  If you live in Missouri and anyone not from Missouri makes a comment about the weather, you HAVE to say something like "Don't like the weather huh?  Well, just wait!"  I'm 100% serious.  Thousands of years of Missouri genetics have all been put to the ultimate use of allowing your mastoids to form this exact statement.  There's no other option -- and you can't fight it!  I must have heard that at least 7 times when I was there. 
 
If you learn to say it really matter-of-factly and without drooling too much, the women just flock to you out there.  It's "sick"
 
Take it easy TPFRs! 
 
 
 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Pictures and report - Current, MO (last post, I promise)

Just a few pics -- we're glad to be home and really look forward to shad and local fishing.  I have a new appreciation for rainbow trout, but I still think you can't beat bluegill ;). 
I won't rehash the same crap I posted in the other "current river" thread -- summary:  weather was cold (but interesting), family/friends were excellent, wet fly swing was my #1 choice. 
 
Oh!  BTW - I noticed something in MO now that I've been living here for 4.3 some odd years.  If you live in Missouri and anyone not from Missouri makes a comment about the weather, you HAVE to say something like "Don't like the weather huh?  Well, just wait!"  I'm 100% serious.  Thousands of years of Missouri genetics have all been put to the ultimate use of allowing your mastoids to form this exact statement.  There's no other option -- and you can't fight it!  I must have heard that at least 7 times when I was there. 
 
If you learn to say it really matter-of-factly and without drooling too much, the women just flock to you out there.  It's "sick"
 
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Saturday, 30 March 2013

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shad and Snakehead

I have not been out yet but a couple of friends went out yesterday at Fletcher's and had some good luck. They said green Tommy's torpedoes were working well. 

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I am wondering if anyone is going after Shad this weekend and, if so, how they did.

I am also wondering if anyone is seeing any snakehead yet.  They should start moving around soon.  I am thinking about targeting them soon in the back of the Occoquan. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Shad and Snakehead

I am wondering if anyone is going after Shad this weekend and, if so, how they did.

I am also wondering if anyone is seeing any snakehead yet.  They should start moving around soon.  I am thinking about targeting them soon in the back of the Occoquan. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Dan Davala's Helpful Shad Links

Fantastic!

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:19:14 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
Thanks, Dan!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Dan Davala's Helpful Shad Links

Thanks, Dan!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Urban Lines got me thinking...

Ed, I live on the Shenandoah and just got a skagit line for my 6wt switch rod. I'm thinking the same thing about using this for smallmouth. Went out yesterday and made some casts, my first with a Spey type of line. Awful casting, lots to learn but this is promising since I was able to get the line out with zero back casting room into currents previously unreachable with a fly rod. Got some sink tips and fluoro, going to be swinging some flies to see what happens!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Dan Davala's Helpful Shad Links

Hey All - Last year was my first year fishing for shad on the Potomac.  Dan Davala sent me an awesome email which contained a bunch of useful information.  Since there are quite a few posts from shad first-timers looking for advice, I wanted to share this resource (and thank Dan for pointing me in the right direction last year.)  This email is a year old, so if some links are dead, my apologies.  Hope this helps:

HELPFUL POTOMAC RIVER SHAD FISHING TOOLS:
 
 
Gauge and Water Temp. (at Little Falls) 55 degrees and up is best:  http://waterdata.usgs.gov/md/nwis/uv?01646500
 
 
 
 
Detailed Map of locations from Georgetown to Fletcher's (thanks Mike Bailey):  http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=215985205281593198240.0004b9b1bc00cfd986f02&msa=0
 
Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders Website (daily reports on the forum):  www.tpfr.org
 
Fletcher's Cove Website:  http://www.fletcherscove.com/index.htm
 
 
SHAD IDENTIFICATION AND FACTS (courtesy of Maryland DNR):
 
 
 
 
 
 
OTHER USEFUL AND INTERESTING RESOURCES:
 
 
 
 
 
RECOMMENDED TACKLE:
 
Single Hand Rod - 6 weight - 8 weight, 9'-10' long
Double Hand Rod - 6 weight - 9 weight, 11' - 14' long (I like long rods from the rocks)
 
Standard Lines - Fast, full sinking is best, fast sinking sink-tip lines with tips at least 10' long (15' is better).  Multi-tip lines with a 15' type 6 tip works great too.
Spey Lines - Skagit lines with 12'-15' fast sinking tips
 
Leader - short (2' - 3'), level piece of 0X (approx. 16lb.), fluorocarbon is preferred for abrasion resistance around the rocks.
 
Flies - any small, flashy fly in sizes #4-#8.  Many Shad Patterns are available, but a #6 Clouser tied short in Chart./White is all that is needed.  Most bright bonefish flies work as well as do classic streamers like Mickey Finns.

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Friday, 29 March 2013

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is it wrong...

Yes.  If you foul-hook one, you have to explain to her why you killed her pet.



From: Richard Lin <rlinpager@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is it wrong...

My daughter has own fish tank - with 40+ fishes. Is it wrong for me to test my little dry flies (size 22-24) in it? I am attempting to try it but......I don't have guts...

Richard

 

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Greg:  Thanks, that's a breakthrough!  Now I know what to do with the erstwhile dormitory fridge of my daughters now resting down in our basement.  ;-) 

 



On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:24:59 AM UTC-4, GS Feder wrote:

Mark --

 

That's one more reason to have a separate fridge/freezer in the garage or basement -- for cold beverages and road pelts. 

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is it wrong...

My daughter has own fish tank - with 40+ fishes. Is it wrong for me to test my little dry flies (size 22-24) in it? I am attempting to try it but......I don't have guts...

Richard

 

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Greg:  Thanks, that's a breakthrough!  Now I know what to do with the erstwhile dormitory fridge of my daughters now resting down in our basement.  ;-) 

 



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Mark --

 

That's one more reason to have a separate fridge/freezer in the garage or basement -- for cold beverages and road pelts. 

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: This is for Teenagers or Parents of Teenagers

I agree with your second part.  Im only 21.  There is a handful of guys at my school who will go out on the water for a all day wade trip.  


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Power bait is so easy it is boring. Requires zero skill. Period. I sincerely hope they are not promoting the use of it to young fisherman. You need to learn good fishing habits while you are young so you can stay interested and improve as you get older. I think things like power bait are part of the reason kids don't stick with fishing these days. There are depressingly few fisherman in the younger generations

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> Powerbait sucks in the sense that it is like cheating. If you need to fish to eat, it would be hard to beat powerbait in terms of productivity.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: This is for Teenagers or Parents of Teenagers

Power bait is so easy it is boring. Requires zero skill. Period. I sincerely hope they are not promoting the use of it to young fisherman. You need to learn good fishing habits while you are young so you can stay interested and improve as you get older. I think things like power bait are part of the reason kids don't stick with fishing these days. There are depressingly few fisherman in the younger generations

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Urban Lines got me thinking...

The shad can be awesome from a kayak. I hit Fletcher's yesterday with some good luck but what Steve said about water temps is true. I had a dry suit on and without it it would have been pure misery. You also have to be willing and able to fight some hardcore currents in a lot of places.

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I can't impart much knowledge, but I did just build a 5wt switch over the winter with the primary purpose of swinging for shad and smallies.  For me it's a tough balance on long rods when trying to keep them heavy enough to cast the bigger bass flies, yet light enough to keep it interesting once you get one on.  I'll enjoy the new challenge figuring this one out.  

I also fish from an inflatable yak in the warmer temps.  Some good locations to start in the tidal parts are Pohick Bay, Occoquan, and Belle Haven -- all easy put-ins.  The bridges also seem to be popular spring and fall spots for stripers but I have yet to give it a shot.  For shad, I don't really mess with the kayaks with the availability of the Fletcher's boats.  It's much easier casting sinking lines from a stable rowboat platform rather than seated or kneeling in a kayak.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} fishing in West Virginia

Casey Peltier, for whom I occasionally tie flies, suggested I post these questions here.  We will be in the Fayetteville, West Virginia area in the last part of April and early May.  What are the fishing opportunities there?  Are there horseback trail riding opportunities there?  Thanks in advance and if any come to New Hampshire I will be glad to reciprocate.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: This is for Teenagers or Parents of Teenagers

Powerbait sucks in the sense that it is like cheating. If you need to fish to eat, it would be hard to beat powerbait in terms of productivity.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: This is for Teenagers or Parents of Teenagers

ah gotcha. 

On Friday, March 29, 2013 8:24:12 AM UTC-4, Miles wrote:
Lucas is indeed a young person (not quite HS age?). He's come to Beer Tie a few times. But he doesn't need to attend the camp: he's already fished more places and species than I ever will. We have a corner of the Catch & Release board at the Orvis shop dedicated to his exploits. If he says Powerbait sucks, I believe him.

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On Friday, March 29, 2013 2:04:56 AM UTC-4, Eric Y. wrote:
Brendan: I'm not sure Lucas is the troll you think he is... A quick Google search of his username + "Washington DC" seems to indicate that Lucas indeed could attend this camp, if not this year, then next. 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Urban Lines got me thinking...

I can't impart much knowledge, but I did just build a 5wt switch over the winter with the primary purpose of swinging for shad and smallies.  For me it's a tough balance on long rods when trying to keep them heavy enough to cast the bigger bass flies, yet light enough to keep it interesting once you get one on.  I'll enjoy the new challenge figuring this one out.  

I also fish from an inflatable yak in the warmer temps.  Some good locations to start in the tidal parts are Pohick Bay, Occoquan, and Belle Haven -- all easy put-ins.  The bridges also seem to be popular spring and fall spots for stripers but I have yet to give it a shot.  For shad, I don't really mess with the kayaks with the availability of the Fletcher's boats.  It's much easier casting sinking lines from a stable rowboat platform rather than seated or kneeling in a kayak.

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They are already working on a second showing.  I'm sure the guys at Urban Angler will keep us informed.  I inquired about the DVD myself but my guess is that they can maybe set up a DVD for the local "Urban Lines" film since we know the creators, however since the film festival was a number of small films, it may not be possible for them to get all of approvals. 
 
 
I do want to thank all the guys at Urban Angler for all the work and effort.  I had a great time and plan to check it out again next year.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} On a shad dart this am

Caught with spinning tackle at mid-cove in the slack water, just off the seam.  A good place to try some big flies.

On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:09:38 AM UTC-4, Aaron O wrote:
I agree with Sam.  On Fly?  If so, how deep?

 

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Wish I could have made the show.  

So what is to become of us poor souls who missed the show?  Second showing?  DVD?

Leon.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} National Fishing and Boating Week, Monday, June 3rd on the Anacostia River

Please join US Fish and Wildlife Service, industry partners, non-profit organization and fishing and boating advocates to celebrate National Fishing and Boating Week on the Anacostia River on Monday, June 3rd. Fishing instruction, exhibits, hands-on activities, boating safety and educational hands-outs for over 300 students are needed to kick off the National Fishing and Boating Week kick off in Washington, DC.
 
Time: 9:00 AM - 2:00 PM
Date: Monday, June 3rd
Location: The Pump House (aquatic activities) and the Aquatic Resource Education Center (land based activities) on the Anacostia River
Contact: Mari Lou Livingood - mariloulivingood@gmail.com or 703-297-5961
 

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Urban Lines got me thinking...

Greetings! Ed Felker here, I have met some of you I know, perhaps through Project Healing Waters events. Anyway, I was at the film festival last night and the wonderful film Urban Lines got me thinking about a few things. I was previously unaware of TPFR but now I wonder if any of you have some thoughts on the following...

I live on the Potomac well upstream of the tidal portion, but watching you guys with the two handed rods made me wonder if maybe that wouldn't be a bad approach for smallmouth fishing up my way. I oftentimes have trees behind me and a lot of water to cover in front of me, seems like spey casting would be worth exploring. Do any of you spey cast for smallies? I also have huge carp that live right off my bank, but have yet to catch one on a fly. Every year I promise myself I *will* catch one this season. 

My other question is about the tidal Potomac. Do people kayak fish for shad, striper or largemouth down there? Seems doable, but I have no idea what it's like, I don't want to just experiment, put in at National Airport and get swept into the Chesapeake Bay! Any advice here about viability or access would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance. And congrats to Rob Snowwhite, Kami Swingle and all those involved with Urban Lines!

Ed.

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I agree with Sam.  On Fly?  If so, how deep?

 

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