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Thursday, 28 February 2013

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Sea Lamprey

Post that pic and you will deter skinny dipping for sure.

Be sure to include foreign translation!

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Rob@robsnowhite.com <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:

Use to see them all over the place in college on the Rappahannock. They would swim between your legs or take a break in the slack water down stream from my legs.

Still never seen one up here on the Potomac.

The sea lamprey is def more scary looking than the leastbrook. Well see them on the shad am soon 😀

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Scott Stankus <sstankus@gmail.com> wrote:

I planned to write asking anyone who finds one of these in the Potomac to please let us all know ASAP, but on second thought, I might prefer not to know...

http://gawker.com/5987185/terrifying-sea-monster-found-in-new-jersey-river

Maybe it's time to invest in Kevlar waders...

--Scott

P.S. I can see the next made for TV movie now... Frankenfish vs. Sea Lamprey!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Awesome man! What length?

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On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:45 PM, troutman <michael.gasiecki@us.army.mil> wrote:

> Thanks guys for the help. I went to the local orvis store and purchased a orvis 3 wt Clearwater. I coasted it and it was amazing. Thanks again for the help. Without you guys a new guy would be lost.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Thanks guys for the help. I went to the local orvis store and purchased a orvis 3 wt Clearwater. I coasted it and it was amazing. Thanks again for the help. Without you guys a new guy would be lost.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Average first bite

This link

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=215985205281593198240.0004b9b1bc00cfd986f02&msa=0

Will help you find all the secret spots Dan Davala keeps in his (escape) log book. We've fired it back up for this season.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Paul Kalajainen <paulkalajainen@gmail.com> wrote:

What is the sandbar?

On Friday, February 22, 2013 8:40:17 AM UTC-5, Animal wrote:
I just spoke with Gordon Leisch. He is a former marine biologist and VERY long time Potomac fall line angler. His logs go back 50 + years. We averaged the date of the first bite for a few species. Based on his records they are as follows.

Blue Catfish Year Round 20 - 40 pounders being caught now on the sandbar
Gizzard Shad March 1 in numbers but always around
White Perch March 15th

H Shad March 30th
River Herring March 30th
Striped Bass (big) April 1st
Snakeheads Insufficient data Usually around the 1st of April with a high water event

A Shad April 15th

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Average first bite

What is the sandbar?

On Friday, February 22, 2013 8:40:17 AM UTC-5, Animal wrote:

I just spoke with Gordon Leisch. He is a former marine biologist and VERY long time Potomac fall line angler. His logs go back 50 + years. We averaged the date of the first bite for a few species. Based on his records they are as follows.

Blue Catfish Year Round 20 - 40 pounders being caught now on the sandbar
Gizzard Shad March 1 in numbers but always around
White Perch March 15th
H Shad March 30th
River Herring March 30th
Striped Bass (big) April 1st
Snakeheads Insufficient data Usually around the 1st of April with a high water event
A Shad April 15th

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Sea Lamprey

Use to see them all over the place in college on the Rappahannock. They would swim between your legs or take a break in the slack water down stream from my legs.

Still never seen one up here on the Potomac.

The sea lamprey is def more scary looking than the leastbrook. Well see them on the shad am soon 😀

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Scott Stankus <sstankus@gmail.com> wrote:

I planned to write asking anyone who finds one of these in the Potomac to please let us all know ASAP, but on second thought, I might prefer not to know...

http://gawker.com/5987185/terrifying-sea-monster-found-in-new-jersey-river

Maybe it's time to invest in Kevlar waders...

--Scott

P.S. I can see the next made for TV movie now... Frankenfish vs. Sea Lamprey!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Sea Lamprey

I planned to write asking anyone who finds one of these in the Potomac to please let us all know ASAP, but on second thought, I might prefer not to know...

http://gawker.com/5987185/terrifying-sea-monster-found-in-new-jersey-river

Maybe it's time to invest in Kevlar waders...

--Scott

P.S. I can see the next made for TV movie now... Frankenfish vs. Sea Lamprey!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Club Casting Clinic Sunday, March 3 and other upcoming events

I live in Dupont and I am hoping to go. I'd be happy to give you a ride.

Unfortunately, I won't know if I can make it until Saturday afternoon. I'll let you know.

--Scott

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM, tperkins <thomas.perkins1@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys,

I am planning on attending, and was going to bike there as I don't own a car. But then I thought I would check to see if anyone is going to be driving from the Dupont area and doesn't mind a passenger?

Thanks,

Thomas

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:36:27 AM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:
While it is free, Dan neglected to mention the wandering "boathouse gang" that is sometimes known for jacking people as they pass through that stone tunnel under the canal.

They usually wear sunglasses, a ball cap, and loose-fitting clothing in the spring/summer. They may even be carrying fishing rods or kayaks and appear pretty friendly. Sometimes they might even say things like "beautiful day isn't it?" or "how you doing?" but don't be panic. Just give your car a lot of gas and never stop in the tunnel! You'll be fine ;).

Gene

On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:27:43 PM UTC-5, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:

No registration necessary. Participation in this clinic and this club is FREE!
Dan Davala
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM, <sh.gan...@aol.com> wrote:

Do I have to be registered in order to participate the event?

On Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, Dalton Terrell wrote:

Hi,

I am just shooting out a notice that John Bilotta (Master Certified Casting Instructor) and I will be holding a casting clinic at Fletcher's Cove on Sunday, March 3 from 8:30-10:00. We will help out with both single-hand and two-handed casting (John will probably have some spare spey rods if you want to give this a go). If there is anything you want to work on or just want to tune up your general skills, we will help out.

Additionally, we have added a few additional events to our webpage here: http://www.tpfr.org/events.htm

On the following Sunday, March 10, we will have a table at the NCC-TU Angling Show at Georgetown Prep in North Bethesda. Lefty Kreh will be there doing a casting demonstration, there will be lots of guides, local vendors and other local fishing non-profits. For more details, go here.

Also, as Dan has sent out recently we have several more Beer Tie's and our four year anniversary party scheduled at Whitlow's.

Dalton

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Club Casting Clinic Sunday, March 3 and other upcoming events

Hey guys,

I am planning on attending, and was going to bike there as I don't own a car. But then I thought I would check to see if anyone is going to be driving from the Dupont area and doesn't mind a passenger?

Thanks,

Thomas

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:36:27 AM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:

While it is free, Dan neglected to mention the wandering "boathouse gang" that is sometimes known for jacking people as they pass through that stone tunnel under the canal.

They usually wear sunglasses, a ball cap, and loose-fitting clothing in the spring/summer. They may even be carrying fishing rods or kayaks and appear pretty friendly. Sometimes they might even say things like "beautiful day isn't it?" or "how you doing?" but don't be panic. Just give your car a lot of gas and never stop in the tunnel! You'll be fine ;).

Gene

On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:27:43 PM UTC-5, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:
No registration necessary. Participation in this clinic and this club is FREE!
Dan Davala
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM, <sh.gan...@aol.com> wrote:

Do I have to be registered in order to participate the event?

On Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:06:15 PM UTC-8, Dalton Terrell wrote:

Hi,

I am just shooting out a notice that John Bilotta (Master Certified Casting Instructor) and I will be holding a casting clinic at Fletcher's Cove on Sunday, March 3 from 8:30-10:00. We will help out with both single-hand and two-handed casting (John will probably have some spare spey rods if you want to give this a go). If there is anything you want to work on or just want to tune up your general skills, we will help out.

Additionally, we have added a few additional events to our webpage here: http://www.tpfr.org/events.htm

On the following Sunday, March 10, we will have a table at the NCC-TU Angling Show at Georgetown Prep in North Bethesda. Lefty Kreh will be there doing a casting demonstration, there will be lots of guides, local vendors and other local fishing non-profits. For more details, go here.

Also, as Dan has sent out recently we have several more Beer Tie's and our four year anniversary party scheduled at Whitlow's.

Dalton

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is fishing escapist, or is it the other way?

This thread is the reason why I find this the best fishing forum I've been a part of. Good stuff.
BTW, fished Lake Anne in Reston today. Caught a cold.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

I would recommend that you go to some of the local fly shops, and upcoming fishing shows to test out some rods. Speaking from experience, both good and bad, I wouldn't buy based on price. A 3 wt is more or less a luxury, a specialized tool that if you don't own one, you will not be prevented from fishing any waters or or catching any fish that you couldn't on your 4 or 5 weight. If you buy some cheapo 3 wt, it probably will not get fished much as you will wish that you got that good one that was a little more coin and probably end up grabbing the 5 wt with the action you love when you hit the little streams that are ideal for the 3 wt.

Dalton

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 3wt

I have a 3wt 6'6" pocket water from ll bean that I am very happy with. It is a 4 pc. great for SNP streams.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:46:11 PM UTC-5, troutman wrote:

I'm in the market for a 3wt. I was curios what is a good rod that won't brake the bank?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 4 mile chocolate milk

i didn't have much luck there yesterday either until about 4. With the water higher than normal at low tide, I found the area just downstream of the outflow pretty productive. I caught 4 LMB and a bunch of huge bluegill. I didn't really see much with the water being so stained, but I think I caught a tire when I was downstream of you (near the power poles). There is a black wooly bugger in the tire now since it was too deep for me to reach down to retrieve it.

Chuq

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:31:52 AM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:

If you almost hooked a carp, you've done better than I have in trying to catch one ;).

I pulled up about a 6' clear plastic tarp the other day, but managed to get my fly back. You never know what you'll get around here.

Gene

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:03:02 AM UTC-5, Texican wrote:
Almost forgot. I did land a men's large grey cotton glove. I think it was a righty. Not much of a fighter. So, I wasn't completely skunked. 😏

-John
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:48:16 AM UTC-5, Texican wrote:
Went to 4MR Wed. to work on my casting and try out my hideous wooly bugger I tied on a #6. About 20 cast in and I missed a huge carp. I've got to get this hook set thing down! Felt the fish on my line when I attempted to lift for my back cast. Thought I was hung up, saw a the fish roll and half a tail fin.

No other bites all day. Saw a couple of bass hit something on the surface but that was it. Nice and warm so getting skunked didn't feel so bad. BTW, I spent an hour with Rob Snowhite and his daughter. I asked Rob to spend an hour with me to help me get through my fly fishing learning curve. Great time and very helpful.

tight lines - John

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4mile run sunday sighting

No prob.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:27:46 AM UTC-5, Sardman wrote:

Thanks man, really needed a laugh!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is fishing escapist, or is it the other way?

Gene: and now message about Tyler Durden: http://bit.ly/143DFRi ;-)

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:45:13 AM UTC-5, TurbineBlade wrote:

On a side note, I spend way, way too much time online looking up fly patterns and and checking this forum. Is there a support group for this? Like in Fight Club?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is fishing escapist, or is it the other way?

Thanks for mentioning "wonder." A good part of the pleasure I take from fishing is that it makes me feel younger as I more or less re-enact parts of my youth, such as following a local creek to its source, or its outlet; coming home covered in mud, fish scales, etc. and late for dinner with mom and dad sore, but "oh boy, the stuff I discovered today!" That and more is the "wonder" of it all.

Here's some interesting UK sites having to do with urban fishing: http://www.theopike.com/tag/trout-in-dirty-places/ and http://urbanflyfisher.com/

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Steve--That's exactly my rationale as well. I had a 2-pc that I've replaced with a similar 4pc because it was just too difficult to get around with (often ride to fishing on my bike). Part of my hesitation to get a 2pc short rod is that it won't quite fit with my others, which make backpacking logistics a bit more difficult. I've seen 8pc rods, which basically fit in a pringles can, and though its intriguing I hear they are a total pain to use.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Steve F <spfbeaver@gmail.com> wrote:

John -- With fewer sections, two piece rods will generally weigh less than their 3 or 4pc counterparts, are quicker to setup, and in some cases cheaper. Additionally, some people find the smoother taper over the rod length with only one connection results in greater feel and a more consistent action. But note that these differences are fairly marginal and in some cases completely unnoticeable.

All of my light rods are 4 piece for packability and all of my heavy rods are... 4 piece for packability. Around here my 6 and 8wts are my daily drivers. All other rods are specialty and get most their use out of a backpack or an overhead storage compartment. Two and 3 piece rods are just not as practical for me, but to each his own.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

John -- With fewer sections, two piece rods will generally weigh less than their 3 or 4pc counterparts, are quicker to setup, and in some cases cheaper. Additionally, some people find the smoother taper over the rod length with only one connection results in greater feel and a more consistent action. But note that these differences are fairly marginal and in some cases completely unnoticeable.

All of my light rods are 4 piece for packability and all of my heavy rods are... 4 piece for packability. Around here my 6 and 8wts are my daily drivers. All other rods are specialty and get most their use out of a backpack or an overhead storage compartment. Two and 3 piece rods are just not as practical for me, but to each his own.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is fishing escapist, or is it the other way?

I have absolutely loved this thread everyone! Great musings, insights, and poetry all around! Regardless of reason, in my opinion we are all super blessed and fortunate in that we have found a real passion in fly fishing. We live in a time when people actually attend seminars to find out what they might be passionate about. In fact, if you Google, "Find Your Passion", you come up with no less than 166,000,000 results, which roughly equates to one result for every 1.9 Americans. There are a LOT of people out there that don't even know what they're in to. At least the 966 members of this forum have already know, which really is a gift.

Additionally, most studies on happiness (yes there are millions of them too) conclude that the happiest people have something they are in to, something to be excited about and look forward to. Fishing is a great example of this, and for many it can and will last a lifetime. It's not surprising then that other necessary activities such as work and chores seem pale in comparison to the activity we love and would chose to do instead if we could. But if we really could do it all the time, 24/7, I think the activity of fishing would lose a bit of its luster (see "The River Why"). Simply put, the yearning for and desire to fish even when we can't is part of what makes it special every time we do. Another commonality among the happiest people is a strong network of relationships. I've always said this club is more about relationship than anything else, and it has been a joy to see so many friendships emerge around a common interest and watershed.

So, let's take a moment to rejoice! We have passion/sport/hobby we truly love and enjoy, people to share it with, and free and public access to many great waters across this country, some only minutes away. We also live in an area with good jobs and good pay, and three International Airports that can take us to exotic locations anywhere on the planet at the drop of a hat - though not to escape of course!

I'm also super thankful that so many of you find TPFR helpful in getting through the work week by recounting past times and experiences, posting pictures and trip reports, sharing knowledge with others, and anticipating and planning for days ahead. And Gene, if you find your piscatorial ponderings truly reach a level of counterproductivity at work, I know an industry where you might fit right in! Same goes for the rest of you. Great topic!

Dan Davala

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:45 AM, TurbineBlade <doublebclan@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you for the reading suggestions -- I enjoy reading and used to do a lot more of it than I currently do. Calvin and Hobbes reflects how I feel about most things in life, but I really like a lot of the writing from the fly fishing community as well. I'll probably pick up some of this stuff used on Amazon and/or bother members if they have copies ;). But I won't return them though just so you know -- at least not in good condition anyway ;). I borrowed a coworker's 4-piece 8 weight combo the other day and told him I'd return it in at least that many pieces.

I guess a lot of you folks tend to feel the same (at least to some degree) -- maybe that's what is great about fishing. Honestly I don't mind my job and I definitely don't feel like I have a right to complain - it's just "any job" wouldn't hold a candle to this hobby.

On a side note, I spend way, way too much time online looking up fly patterns and and checking this forum. Is there a support group for this? Like in Fight Club? I guess there are worse things, like golf, heroin and being a NY Rangers fan. BTW - Aaron, I've read that book. I think that book was read to me when I was little, along with "too much junk food" with the Berenstain Bears. Good stuff.

Anyway - I appreciate the reading tips!

Gene

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:57:51 PM UTC-5, Misha Gill wrote:
Haha, way to bring it home Matthew!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Orvis Streamline vs ll bean quest

Hey Richard,

Thanks for the great information. Thats good to know. :)

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Is fishing escapist, or is it the other way?

Thank you for the reading suggestions -- I enjoy reading and used to do a lot more of it than I currently do. Calvin and Hobbes reflects how I feel about most things in life, but I really like a lot of the writing from the fly fishing community as well. I'll probably pick up some of this stuff used on Amazon and/or bother members if they have copies ;). But I won't return them though just so you know -- at least not in good condition anyway ;). I borrowed a coworker's 4-piece 8 weight combo the other day and told him I'd return it in at least that many pieces.

I guess a lot of you folks tend to feel the same (at least to some degree) -- maybe that's what is great about fishing. Honestly I don't mind my job and I definitely don't feel like I have a right to complain - it's just "any job" wouldn't hold a candle to this hobby.

On a side note, I spend way, way too much time online looking up fly patterns and and checking this forum. Is there a support group for this? Like in Fight Club? I guess there are worse things, like golf, heroin and being a NY Rangers fan. BTW - Aaron, I've read that book. I think that book was read to me when I was little, along with "too much junk food" with the Berenstain Bears. Good stuff.

Anyway - I appreciate the reading tips!

Gene

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:57:51 PM UTC-5, Misha Gill wrote:

Haha, way to bring it home Matthew!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 4 mile chocolate milk

If you almost hooked a carp, you've done better than I have in trying to catch one ;).

I pulled up about a 6' clear plastic tarp the other day, but managed to get my fly back. You never know what you'll get around here.

Gene

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:03:02 AM UTC-5, Texican wrote:

Almost forgot. I did land a men's large grey cotton glove. I think it was a righty. Not much of a fighter. So, I wasn't completely skunked. 😏

-John
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:48:16 AM UTC-5, Texican wrote:
Went to 4MR Wed. to work on my casting and try out my hideous wooly bugger I tied on a #6. About 20 cast in and I missed a huge carp. I've got to get this hook set thing down! Felt the fish on my line when I attempted to lift for my back cast. Thought I was hung up, saw a the fish roll and half a tail fin.

No other bites all day. Saw a couple of bass hit something on the surface but that was it. Nice and warm so getting skunked didn't feel so bad. BTW, I spent an hour with Rob Snowhite and his daughter. I asked Rob to spend an hour with me to help me get through my fly fishing learning curve. Great time and very helpful.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: 4 mile chocolate milk

Almost forgot. I did land a men's large grey cotton glove. I think it was a righty. Not much of a fighter. So, I wasn't completely skunked. 😏

-John
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:48:16 AM UTC-5, Texican wrote:

Went to 4MR Wed. to work on my casting and try out my hideous wooly bugger I tied on a #6. About 20 cast in and I missed a huge carp. I've got to get this hook set thing down! Felt the fish on my line when I attempted to lift for my back cast. Thought I was hung up, saw a the fish roll and half a tail fin.

No other bites all day. Saw a couple of bass hit something on the surface but that was it. Nice and warm so getting skunked didn't feel so bad. BTW, I spent an hour with Rob Snowhite and his daughter. I asked Rob to spend an hour with me to help me get through my fly fishing learning curve. Great time and very helpful.

tight lines - John

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

I like 3 piece for little rods(below 5wt) easier to fit in a pack. Ive had all heavier rods as 2 pieces but one eight weight. Maybe it was total luck but i broke it on a fish right where the upper third and middle third fot together, ive never owned a heavier 3 piece rod since.

Dan Barrett

On Feb 28, 2013 1:36 AM, "Texican" <john.z.martinez@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been thinking about a trout rod as well. Can anyone share what if any down side there might be to a two piece 3-4wt rod other than convenience when hiking to a stream? Do multiple sections impact a builders ability affect the rods traits?

Tight lines -John

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:02:03 PM UTC-5, Matthew Longley wrote:
I'm in the same place troutman. Can't really justify spending money on a 3-wt, but at the same time really like the idea of having a tiny-stream rod for backcountry. Was reading a lot of reviews about the eagle claw rods, which are something like 30 bucks, but I hear the 3wt plays more like a 5wt, which kinda defeats the purpose. Beans has some short 3-wts for cheap, but they are all 2-piece rods, I'm guessing to protect their more expensive pocket water rods.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:51:03 PM UTC-5, troutman wrote:
Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

I've been thinking about a trout rod as well. Can anyone share what if any down side there might be to a two piece 3-4wt rod other than convenience when hiking to a stream? Do multiple sections impact a builders ability affect the rods traits?

Tight lines -John

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:02:03 PM UTC-5, Matthew Longley wrote:

I'm in the same place troutman. Can't really justify spending money on a 3-wt, but at the same time really like the idea of having a tiny-stream rod for backcountry. Was reading a lot of reviews about the eagle claw rods, which are something like 30 bucks, but I hear the 3wt plays more like a 5wt, which kinda defeats the purpose. Beans has some short 3-wts for cheap, but they are all 2-piece rods, I'm guessing to protect their more expensive pocket water rods.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:51:03 PM UTC-5, troutman wrote:
Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 4 mile chocolate milk

Went to 4MR Wed. to work on my casting and try out my hideous wooly bugger I tied on a #6. About 20 cast in and I missed a huge carp. I've got to get this hook set thing down! Felt the fish on my line when I attempted to lift for my back cast. Thought I was hung up, saw a the fish roll and half a tail fin.

No other bites all day. Saw a couple of bass hit something on the surface but that was it. Nice and warm so getting skunked didn't feel so bad. BTW, I spent an hour with Rob Snowhite and his daughter. I asked Rob to spend an hour with me to help me get through my fly fishing learning curve. Great time and very helpful.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Not sure where you are fishing with this. But i saved up for a while and ended up with a 1 wt. Ive had it on streams that are up to 20-30 yards wide and have landed 12-14in rainbow. on the tiny streams its all i use. on the larger ones its my dry fly rod, it doesnt handle multi nymph rigs or big streams well.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Steve F <spfbeaver@gmail.com> wrote:

I was in the same boat a while back looking for a 3wt. I started with the Bean 6'6" 3wt 2pc. It turned out the rod just wasn't my cup o' tea so I ended up returning it. I then picked up a 7'6" Redington Classic Trout 4pc that I like quite a bit more. It won't win any contests, but neither will I. You may still find them on closeout for not much more than the Bean sticks.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

I was in the same boat a while back looking for a 3wt. I started with the Bean 6'6" 3wt 2pc. It turned out the rod just wasn't my cup o' tea so I ended up returning it. I then picked up a 7'6" Redington Classic Trout 4pc that I like quite a bit more. It won't win any contests, but neither will I. You may still find them on closeout for not much more than the Bean sticks.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Hey troutman--I grew up in Maine, LL Bean was my local fly shop. I have a 9ft 5wt and a 9ft 9wt--all of my rods have been from LLB. I'm not in much of a position to compare rods, but I love the 5wt, and am pretty happy with the 9wt. Their warranty is pretty spectacular though, My uncle closed his beans rod in a car door, brought it into the store and told them the story, and they wouldn't let him pay for the repair, they just gave him a new one.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM, troutman <michael.gasiecki@us.army.mil> wrote:

Mathew
I have looked into ll beans. I never have known any one to use one. Have you herd anything about them. I have a 6 wt and I'm going to try some small streams. A little bit of overkill.
Thanks
Mike

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Mathew
I have looked into ll beans. I never have known any one to use one. Have you herd anything about them. I have a 6 wt and I'm going to try some small streams. A little bit of overkill.
Thanks
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

Last summer I got a J.P. Ross Beaver Meadow 5ft. 3 wt., slow action. I
love it. Haven't used it on a trout stream yet but have a ball with
Potomac blue gills.

On 2/27/13, Matthew Longley <matthew.longley@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm in the same place troutman. Can't really justify spending money on a
> 3-wt, but at the same time really like the idea of having a tiny-stream rod
>
> for backcountry. Was reading a lot of reviews about the eagle claw rods,
> which are something like 30 bucks, but I hear the 3wt plays more like a
> 5wt, which kinda defeats the purpose. Beans has some short 3-wts for
> cheap, but they are all 2-piece rods, I'm guessing to protect their more
> expensive pocket water rods.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:51:03 PM UTC-5, troutman wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

I'm in the same place troutman. Can't really justify spending money on a 3-wt, but at the same time really like the idea of having a tiny-stream rod for backcountry. Was reading a lot of reviews about the eagle claw rods, which are something like 30 bucks, but I hear the 3wt plays more like a 5wt, which kinda defeats the purpose. Beans has some short 3-wts for cheap, but they are all 2-piece rods, I'm guessing to protect their more expensive pocket water rods.

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Thanks. Also if anyone is selling any I'm game.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 3wt

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Orvis Streamline vs ll bean quest

Sam, et al.,

Every major fly rod manufacturer builds a warranty into the cost of their rods. If you buy a completed rod, the entire rod is under warranty. If you buy a blank, just the rod blank is under warranty. Some companies offer a 25-year warranty, some offer lifetime, some only 1 or 2 years depending on the model.

All manufacturers calculate and build the cost of the warranty into the retail price of the rod. I asked the head of marketing at Sage about 8 or 9 years ago what that cost was, and I was told about $50. Perhaps inflation has made that cost rise.

Every manufacturer gets to make a choice about a few things regarding their warranties – how long the repair time is, what the processing fee should be, what to charge for shipping back to the customer (or shop), how to handle manufacturing defects vs. obvious user error, whether to honor original owners or not, whether to replace or repair damages, and how long to hold onto the mandrels they use to roll new blanks.

Sage, Winston, Scott, and a few other manufacturers tend to keep a supply of mandrels on hand that date back 4-5 generations of their high end rods, and 2-3 generations of their low end rods, as well as a ton of extra blanks of all their rod weights.

When the manufacturers run out of blanks or the mandrels get worn out, they stop making those blanks and they offer an upgrade to the most similar new model (sometimes for a fee).

Repair time can vary from manufacturer, especially with companies that have a huge following. Below is a list of warranty and repair information for the rods we sell. Click each manufacturers name for links to their warranty information on their websites:

Sage

· Lifetime original owner warranty.

· 4-5 week repair time, $50 processing and return fee.

· Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

· Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

R.L. Winston

· Lifetime original owner warranty.

· 4-5 week repair time, $50 processing and return fee.

· Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

· Does enforce original owner warranty stipulation to registered owner.

Redington

· Lifetime original owner warranty (for all but 2 rod models).

· 2-3 week repair time, $30 processing and return fee.

· Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

· Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

G. Loomis

· Limited lifetime original owner warranty.

· 4-5 week repair time, $20 processing and return fee.

· Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

· Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

· For NRX owners, Xpeditor service (2-day service for $100 – a new replacement rod is mailed), and Wild Card registration allowing you to walk into ANY Loomis dealer and exchange your broken rod for an over the counter replacement (if in stock).

Rise Fishing

· Lifetime original owner warranty.

· 3-4 week repair time, $25 for section, $50 for entire rod processing and return fee.

· Repair when applicable, replacement when broken.

· Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

Temple Forks

· Lifetime original owner no-fault warranty.

· 1-2 week repair time, $25 processing and return fee.

· Complete replacement when broken.

· Does not usually enforce original owner warranty stipulation.

I cannot speak for Orvis, LL Bean, or Cabela’s because we don’t sell their products, but all rod manufacturers have pretty much similar warranties.

Hope that clears a few things up.

Richard

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Thanks for the advice guys!

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Steve F <spfbeaver@gmail.com> wrote:

Both Orvis and LLBean have top notch gear warranties. The Orvis warranty is well covered but Bean also has their satisfaction guarantee which allows you to take anything back at anytime. I returned a broken spey rod that they didn't carry in the store so they handed me a giftcard for the full value - no questions asked.

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