Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders

Saturday, 30 March 2024

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FFC Shad Report #3

Here's the latest Potomac shad news: more big hickories, the first American shad and another crazy osprey story.

https://mailchi.mp/7c27445b673a/date-shad-report-12690518?e=9d75c6fa44

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Thursday, 28 March 2024

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fletchers Today???

It should be good, I was out yesterday morning

before rain and did well.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:10 AM David Vazquez <nwfloridian@gmail.com> wrote:

Considering heading out today. I was VERY surprised this morning to see that the Little Falls gauge is actually falling (currently 4.21 ft/12,200 CFS. The turbidity numbers have also gone up a tad to 6.0 FNU, but it's below what I fished last week (about 9 FNU). Am I dreaming, or does it look like it will fish today (Thursday 3/28)?

Dave

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fletchers Today???

Considering heading out today. I was VERY surprised this morning to see that the Little Falls gauge is actually falling (currently 4.21 ft/12,200 CFS. The turbidity numbers have also gone up a tad to 6.0 FNU, but it's below what I fished last week (about 9 FNU). Am I dreaming, or does it look like it will fish today (Thursday 3/28)?

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Friday, 22 March 2024

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Thank you all for your thoughtful, considered opinions.

After reading about 40% of it (acc to my Kindle Paperwhite) in addition to this being my 3rd attempt, I've put it aside as just so much literate self-indulgence. It just didn't capture me, grab me, earn my enthusiastic engagement. Joseph Heywood's The Snowfly, which I read a couple of months ago (for the second time), was a much better story.

Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Any Ideas on Shad Fishing Near Rehoboth Beach?

Outside of the usual run, I did catch some shad in the Indian River Inlet a couple years back - was fishing with a guide, targeting schoolies and bluefish, on an outgoing tide

On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-4 Mark Sauter wrote:

Hoping for something east of Tuckahoe River Red Bridges area (which can be good for those who don't know the location.)

Tnx!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Any Ideas on Shad Fishing Near Rehoboth Beach?

Hoping for something east of Tuckahoe River Red Bridges area (which can be good for those who don't know the location.)

Tnx!

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Fwd: Pebble Mine: Greed and lawsuits

I got this the other day. The conflict over Bristol Bay continues. I wanted to share this in case anyone was interested.

Daniel

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Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 4:45 PM
Subject: Pebble Mine: Greed and lawsuits
To: Daniel Lazenby <dlazenby4@gmail.com>

Hi Daniel,

The company behind Pebble Mine won't quit, so neither can we.

Canadian-based Northern Dynasty Minerals filed two new lawsuits against EPA and the federal government last week in a last-ditch effort to advance their destructive mega-mine. It's easy to see through these lawsuits: Not only are they trying to overturn EPA's protections, one of their filings seeks a ridiculous payment of $700 billion from American taxpayers. Their actions demonstrate nothing but greed.

Despite science clearly proving the harmfulness of their plan, and the people of Bristol Bay and the nation clearly saying it is unwanted, lawsuits seek to undo EPA's veto and profit off "damages" the company says it's owed as a result.

This is where you come in:

Our work to secure protections for the entire Bristol Bay region through Congress remains critical to ensuring this culturally important and immensely productive region may remain for future generations.

This will require continued engagement across the country — contacting decision-makers, sharing with friends, and staying informed. We will tell you when it's time to take action on any future legislation.

The best way to help until then?

Tell your friends the fight to protect Bristol Bay isn't over. Please consider forwarding this email to friends and family and encourage them to follow Bristol Bay Forever on Facebook, Instagram, and X (Twitter) to stay updated.

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Thursday, 21 March 2024

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Mark,

100% worth a read. Will probably make you reevaluate why you fly fish…in a good way. I decided to never watch the movie, because the book simply doesn't need a movie adaptation. It's set in the pacific NW, which I have visited once and yet the writing about the area Gus plies with his fly rod and general fishy acumen is vivid enough to paint a near perfect picture of area.

-Trent "leterate kinda TPfr contrbutar" Jones

On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 11:19:46 AM UTC-4 namfos wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Amber was so hot in Never Back Down.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 5:30 PM rfarino@gmail.com <rfarino@gmail.com> wrote:

As noted, yes to the book. It is timeless, and is everything that you imagine a new fly fisher coming of age story should be.

Do NOT watch the movie. I shut it off after 15 minutes. Amber Heard did a lousy job portraying Eddie.

We have a copy here.

R

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Mark, I enjoyed it.

Cheers,

-- Greg

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On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:19 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Yep, dreadful movie. And I can watch almost anything!

Casey Peltier

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On Mar 21, 2024, at 5:30 PM, rfarino@gmail.com wrote:

As noted, yes to the book. It is timeless, and is everything that you imagine a new fly fisher coming of age story should be.

Do NOT watch the movie. I shut it off after 15 minutes. Amber Heard did a lousy job portraying Eddie.

We have a copy here.

R

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Mark, I enjoyed it.

Cheers,

-- Greg

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:19 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

As noted, yes to the book. It is timeless, and is everything that you imagine a new fly fisher coming of age story should be.

Do NOT watch the movie. I shut it off after 15 minutes. Amber Heard did a lousy job portraying Eddie.

We have a copy here.

From: Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders <tidal-potomac-fly-rodders@googlegroups.com>
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Date: Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Mark, I enjoyed it.

Cheers,

-- Greg

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:19 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

I read it. Found it interesting enough to finish reading the book. Though it wasn't a real page-turner. It's not something I'd read a second time.

I'd borrow it from a library rather than purchase it.

Daniel

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 11:19 AM namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Mark, I enjoyed it.

Cheers,

-- Greg

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:19 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad

There's a park and very limited parking on the South/Town of Occoquan (Prince William County) side of the footbridge. I thought I saw a sign last year saying that no fishing was allowed there, but Greg is right about the quality of fishing. The North/quarry side (Fairfax County) of the bridge I'm uncertain, but skeptical about how public the access is. I think boat is best there, particularly with fly rod, but the river isn't wide at that spot.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 8:21:31 PM UTC-4 William wrote:

Greg,

Is the Occoquan best fished by boat? I have found a little room on the Occoquan regional park side, for shore fishing, but be prepared for some rock hopping.

I see people fish the far bank, near the water treatment plant outlet, but I have not figured out how people get there without trespassing. Maybe there is a path on the far side of the pedestrian bridge I missed?

William

On Mar 20, 2024, at 17:24, Gregg Rockett <grock...@gmail.com> wrote:

As Hermany mentioned, there is a new launch under the bridge on the Occoquan, on the downstream side of the old town. You can also launch from Occoquan Regional Park at the parking area next to the water. The fishing near the pedestrian bridge and upstream in the rock garden is phenomenal.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 2:04:43 PM UTC-4 Andrew Gavlin wrote:
Can anyone help me out with a good Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad Fishing? Is Fletcher's the best spot?

Taking my brother out this weekend. Will post an update on how it goes w pics.

Appreciate it.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

i read it a few months ago. yes. i would recommend. it left me feeling better about the world and fishing and people.

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On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:36, Rob Snowhite <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:

It's on my list to re read. I'll enjoy it more the second time. Its timeframe is timeless. It will read as a current and relevant book. Richie will say yes to reading it. Skip the movie.

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On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:19 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

It's on my list to re read. I'll enjoy it more the second time. Its timeframe is timeless. It will read as a current and relevant book. Richie will say yes to reading it. Skip the movie.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:19 AM, namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

Mark,

I have not read it or any books by James Duncan. But Amazon gives it a relatively high rating. The book is available through the Fairfax library Libby App as either an E-Book or Audio book.

Hope this gives you an idea.

Kevin

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 11:19 AM namfos <mark.sofman@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,
Mark

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Who's got an opinion about The River Why?

I'm hoping to enlist some assistance from the few, the proud, the literate among the members of TPFR:

Should I bother to read The River Why ?

It's the 1983 novel by David James Duncan.

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} FFC Shad Report #1

Yea, tbh depending on where you live you're probably better off either making shad a weekend thing (if out towards Fredrick) or a morning before work/cut out early thing (if you reverse commute). But Violette's lock is near you and that's very good in the summer for smallmouth bass if it's a good year for bass.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-4 Artie Haglich wrote:

ok, thanks

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 1:05 PM HermanyorFlorida <m.herm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Lock 21 on the Canal, as in Swain's Lock? Sorry, that's too far above Great Falls for the American and Hickory shad being discussed. On the Potomac, upstream from Little Falls it's not worth it for shad fishing.
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 10:28:17 AM UTC-4 Artie Haglich wrote:
Hi, being new to FF for Shad this year and regrettably I was not able to attend the last Casting Church where that was discussion point. Can anyone let me know if C&O Canal lock 21 is traditionally a place where Shad can be caught? and is the river accessible there, looks like it was? I've been down there just a few times for walks and it's close to my office which is why I am asking.
thanks
Artie

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 10:15:26 AM UTC-4 Sean Steele wrote:

Somewhat related, this nifty little Google map with fishing spot names near and south of FC: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1cxThM7ygDPvZXHG2YdpO4nBPpU0&hl=en_US

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AAR this morning at Fletchers. Downstream from yak put in, just up from Walkers Point, a dozen in about 4 hours, shore guys were doing well.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 12:01 PM Doug Graebner <dgrae...@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone tested the shad bite on the Anacostia or tributaries thereof?

On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 6:26:02 PM UTC-4 Robert S. wrote:

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm going to try Fletchers in my yak in AM and report back. If anyone wants to join me, I'll be in a F&S shadowcaster.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 5:45 PM Eric Packard <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mason Springs on the Mattawomen was producing shad. I caught 20 in short order on Wednesday. On Friday a friend caught 36 I believe before 10:00am. Then the bite dropped off.

Eric Packard
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On Mar 16, 2024, at 5:00 PM, Eric Farquharson <ltc...@gmail.com> wrote:

I hit it on Friday. Caught two shad on the smaller side and had a few more hits. Going back out Friday am

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On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 4:09 PM brad dreisbach <bsdre...@gmail.com> wrote:

i fished on thursday…river was still in pretty bad shape. talked to one guy who caught 1 shad. I had no luck myself.

On Mar 16, 2024, at 16:07, Robert S. <rms...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thinking of fishing Fletchers tomorrow, does anyone have any shad updates?

Thanks

On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 6:38 AM Mark Binsted <mbins...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read about the first hickory shad catches on Thursday in Shad Report #1. If you haven't heard, we have moved to the Friends of Fletcher's Cove website. The Potomac may blow out on Sunday so take advantage today!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad

Greg,

Is the Occoquan best fished by boat? I have found a little room on the Occoquan regional park side, for shore fishing, but be prepared for some rock hopping.

I see people fish the far bank, near the water treatment plant outlet, but I have not figured out how people get there without trespassing. Maybe there is a path on the far side of the pedestrian bridge I missed?

William

On Mar 20, 2024, at 17:24, Gregg Rockett <grockett62@gmail.com> wrote:

As Hermany mentioned, there is a new launch under the bridge on the Occoquan, on the downstream side of the old town. You can also launch from Occoquan Regional Park at the parking area next to the water. The fishing near the pedestrian bridge and upstream in the rock garden is phenomenal.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 2:04:43 PM UTC-4 Andrew Gavlin wrote:
Can anyone help me out with a good Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad Fishing? Is Fletcher's the best spot?

Taking my brother out this weekend. Will post an update on how it goes w pics.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad

Think Sunday will be slow with the temperature and runoff?

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On Mar 20, 2024, at 2:28 PM, Rob Snowhite <rob@robsnowhite.com> wrote:

Downstream most spot at fletchers lot.

1" rain expected Saturday. Heads up with that.

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On Mar 20, 2024, at 2:11 PM, HermanyorFlorida <m.herman.yam@gmail.com> wrote:

If you can get your boats through the tunnel at Fletcher's that's your best bet on the Potomac. I assume one can still launch from the beach there. Not the Potomac itself but a tributary, the Occoquan River in VA has two kayak launch spots within a mile below the dam where the hickory shad congregate. If you do go there, I should be there this weekend myself.

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Can anyone help me out with a good Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad Fishing? Is Fletcher's the best spot?

Taking my brother out this weekend. Will post an update on how it goes w pics.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Best Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad

https://dwr.virginia.gov/fishing/regulations/licenses/#resident-fees

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 5:29 PM Robert S. <rms3smr@gmail.com> wrote:

What type of va fishing license is needed for that area? Thanks

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 5:24 PM Gregg Rockett <grockett62@gmail.com> wrote:
As Hermany mentioned, there is a new launch under the bridge on the Occoquan, on the downstream side of the old town. You can also launch from Occoquan Regional Park at the parking area next to the water. The fishing near the pedestrian bridge and upstream in the rock garden is phenomenal.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 2:04:43 PM UTC-4 Andrew Gavlin wrote:
Can anyone help me out with a good Canoe / Kayak Put-In Spot on Potomac for Shad Fishing? Is Fletcher's the best spot?

Taking my brother out this weekend. Will post an update on how it goes w pics.

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