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Wednesday, 31 August 2016

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Ever heard of an "Appalachian wood trout"?

My guess is someone started calling brook trout "Appalachian wood trout" and it stuck in a very small area of Tennessee. In the second article on your google search they don't mentioned brook trout at all - just 'wood trout' and rainbows. Seems like a case of local slang to me. Google "#mrpajamapants" and I think you'll agree that slang terms for fish certainly exist in local populations. ;)

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 2:06:34 PM UTC-4, ALarge wrote:

No, it's not the opening line to a corny joke my weird uncle Bob told me.

I was in the Southern Appalachians of Northeast Tennessee for work earlier this week and was able to escape into some beautiful mountain streams to fish for what I presumed would be brookies by the looks of the stream I was fishing, Rocky Fork. Well, I ended up pulling out a whole slew of tiny wild rainbow trout and not a single brookie the whole day. Anyways, I wanted to check more into the history and fauna of the area I had been in and looked up a couple articles highlighting the beauty of the state park in which I had been fishing. Three separate articles list "Appalachian wood trout" as one of the species found in Rocky Fork in Flag Pond, TN -which is a species I had never heard of. I googled for a little while longer and couldn't find any more references to "Appalachian wood trout" aside from the three articles that referenced Rocky Fork State Park in Tennessee.

Have any of you trout bums ever heard of such a thing as an "Appalachian wood trout"? I emailed the authors of the article to see if they could remember where they got that intel, but haven't heard back yet.

here's the results for my google search

I'm curious if any of you trout bums have ever heard of such a species, or perhaps anyone use "wood trout" as a lang for some other species?

Alex

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

I was up at Swains lock late last week fishing in the evening and the grasses were up and the fish, inactive. I gave up fishing on a sinking line due to the weeds, but it sounds like I should have kept at it. The top water was really slow. Just a few bluegill, and small ones at that.

Carl

Carl Zmola

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Marek Rich <mrich@scheerpartners.com> wrote:

I fished the Potomac around Lock 7 last week. Water was gin clear and running nice. I fished around seams, drop off and pools and found some decent smallies (10-16"). Most of my success came in late afternoon using small clousers. Most of the bites occurred near the top of the water column. I also saw a few hellgrammites on some submerged rocks, but it was on my way off the water.

Water was perfect temp for wet wading…but be careful and mindful of your surroundings.

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

I haven't fished the Potomac recently but I spent an hour on the C&O canal near Fletcher's last weekend and it was not fun and quit right away. The week prior I fished for sunfish with a light rod at Bull Run and had a blast, though. My sense is the Potomac is too hot and has been for awhile to be worth the time but others may disagree.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-4, arthur noglak wrote:

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On Aug 30, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Andrew M <andrewm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Clearly I use spin gear to hunt big cats with cut bait. I don't see anyone pulling in 40 lb cats with fly gear. I could be wrong.

However, these days, I use fly rod for most of my fishing.

SO, too hot or not?

Andy

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 4:58:12 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

A catfish with a bluegill's head? Maybe in 4 mile run.....

Gene

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:29:12 PM UTC-4, Jim Boryan wrote:

What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Ever heard of an "Appalachian wood trout"?

No, it's not the opening line to a corny joke my weird uncle Bob told me.

I was in the Southern Appalachians of Northeast Tennessee for work earlier this week and was able to escape into some beautiful mountain streams to fish for what I presumed would be brookies by the looks of the stream I was fishing, Rocky Fork. Well, I ended up pulling out a whole slew of tiny wild rainbow trout and not a single brookie the whole day. Anyways, I wanted to check more into the history and fauna of the area I had been in and looked up a couple articles highlighting the beauty of the state park in which I had been fishing. Three separate articles list "Appalachian wood trout" as one of the species found in Rocky Fork in Flag Pond, TN -which is a species I had never heard of. I googled for a little while longer and couldn't find any more references to "Appalachian wood trout" aside from the three articles that referenced Rocky Fork State Park in Tennessee.

Have any of you trout bums ever heard of such a thing as an "Appalachian wood trout"? I emailed the authors of the article to see if they could remember where they got that intel, but haven't heard back yet.

here's the results for my google search

I'm curious if any of you trout bums have ever heard of such a species, or perhaps anyone use "wood trout" as a lang for some other species?

Alex

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Tying classic winged wet flies

Take a cruise around this site: https://donbastianwetflies.com/

Mark

On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 1:37:28 PM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

There must be some wet fly aficionados lurking on the forum.

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Tuesday, 30 August 2016

RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

I fished the Potomac around Lock 7 last week. Water was gin clear and running nice. I fished around seams, drop off and pools and found some decent smallies (10-16"). Most of my success came in late afternoon using small clousers. Most of the bites occurred near the top of the water column. I also saw a few hellgrammites on some submerged rocks, but it was on my way off the water.

Water was perfect temp for wet wading…but be careful and mindful of your surroundings.

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

I haven't fished the Potomac recently but I spent an hour on the C&O canal near Fletcher's last weekend and it was not fun and quit right away. The week prior I fished for sunfish with a light rod at Bull Run and had a blast, though. My sense is the Potomac is too hot and has been for awhile to be worth the time but others may disagree.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-4, arthur noglak wrote:

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On Aug 30, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Andrew M <andrewm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Clearly I use spin gear to hunt big cats with cut bait. I don't see anyone pulling in 40 lb cats with fly gear. I could be wrong.

However, these days, I use fly rod for most of my fishing.

SO, too hot or not?

Andy

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 4:58:12 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

A catfish with a bluegill's head? Maybe in 4 mile run.....

Gene

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:29:12 PM UTC-4, Jim Boryan wrote:

What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

I haven't fished it in about a week but last time I did I did pretty well. It was late though.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-4, Jamie Carracher wrote:

I haven't fished the Potomac recently but I spent an hour on the C&O canal near Fletcher's last weekend and it was not fun and quit right away. The week prior I fished for sunfish with a light rod at Bull Run and had a blast, though. My sense is the Potomac is too hot and has been for awhile to be worth the time but others may disagree.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-4, arthur noglak wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Andrew M <andrewm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Clearly I use spin gear to hunt big cats with cut bait. I don't see anyone pulling in 40 lb cats with fly gear. I could be wrong.

However, these days, I use fly rod for most of my fishing.

SO, too hot or not?

Andy

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 4:58:12 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
A catfish with a bluegill's head? Maybe in 4 mile run.....

Gene

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:29:12 PM UTC-4, Jim Boryan wrote:
What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-4, arthur noglak wrote:

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Andrew M <andrewm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Clearly I use spin gear to hunt big cats with cut bait. I don't see anyone pulling in 40 lb cats with fly gear. I could be wrong.

However, these days, I use fly rod for most of my fishing.

SO, too hot or not?

Andy

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 4:58:12 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
A catfish with a bluegill's head? Maybe in 4 mile run.....

Gene

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:29:12 PM UTC-4, Jim Boryan wrote:
What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Andrew M <andrewmollohan@gmail.com> wrote:

Clearly I use spin gear to hunt big cats with cut bait. I don't see anyone pulling in 40 lb cats with fly gear. I could be wrong.

However, these days, I use fly rod for most of my fishing.

SO, too hot or not?

Andy

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 4:58:12 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:
A catfish with a bluegill's head? Maybe in 4 mile run.....

Gene

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:29:12 PM UTC-4, Jim Boryan wrote:
What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cooper Landing Alaska

I will second the Kenai. Found some hog sized rainbows on what they called a flesh fly. First time a bow took me to backing was in that river.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett

dannytbarrett@gmail.com

(540)-222-8064

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Nick Bowler <nick.bowler@gmail.com> wrote:

You can do a float trip down the Kenai -- highly recommended.

If your son wants to self guide, or has time after the float, he can do the following:
- fish Quartz creek for Dolly Varden behind the spawning sockeyes. Quartz creek is the creek right beside the road as you drive from the Seward highway to the Kenai lake. Egg flies are the go.
- fish the Russian river for Rainbows and Dolly Varden. I think the sockeye run is almost over, but there may be a few stragglers. The secret is to target the silver fish and avoid the red spawners. Egg flies or nymphs for the rainbows, smaller salmon flies for the sockeyes. Use lots of lead to get flies down deep for the rainbows -- dont be subtle.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 3:27:33 AM UTC+10, Terry C wrote:
My son Colin is in Alaska and has time on Friday to go fishing. Anyone ever hire a guide out of Cooper Landing they can recommend thanks .

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

Clearly I use spin gear to hunt big cats with cut bait. I don't see anyone pulling in 40 lb cats with fly gear. I could be wrong.

However, these days, I use fly rod for most of my fishing.

SO, too hot or not?

Andy

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 4:58:12 AM UTC-4, TurbineBlade wrote:

A catfish with a bluegill's head? Maybe in 4 mile run.....

Gene

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:29:12 PM UTC-4, Jim Boryan wrote:
What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Salmon River Trip Oct 4th - 6th Anyone ?

Hey All,

I'm planning on heading up to the Salmon River, Pulaski NY Oct 4th to 6th. Purposelessly going mid-week, for the least crowded conditions .

Targeting primarily Chinook Salmon, there may be some Coho Salmon in the mix. Leaving the DC area very early Tuesday morning and hopefully getting there with enough time to get a few hours of fishing in Tuesday evening. Fishing all day Wednesday and till early afternoon Thursday, then heading back. Would anyone be interested in joining me and splinting transportation and lodging costs.

Vladimir ( Vo ) 240-481-7832

vladimir.polivanov25@gmail.com

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Constitution Gardens Pond Fish Kill

What have folks caught in there in the past. I run by it everyday...but is it worth throwing a fly into?

Cheers

Collin

On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 11:09:35 AM UTC-4, Misha Gill wrote:

LINK to WaPo article.

The good news is that the NPS has a plan to renovate the pond, digging it down to 12 feet, to prevent this from happening again.

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

A catfish with a bluegill's head? Maybe in 4 mile run.....

Gene

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:29:12 PM UTC-4, Jim Boryan wrote:

What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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Monday, 29 August 2016

{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

What kind of fly line do you use to catch catfish with bluegill heads and circle hooks?

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Cooper Landing Alaska

You can do a float trip down the Kenai -- highly recommended.

If your son wants to self guide, or has time after the float, he can do the following:

- fish Quartz creek for Dolly Varden behind the spawning sockeyes. Quartz creek is the creek right beside the road as you drive from the Seward highway to the Kenai lake. Egg flies are the go.

- fish the Russian river for Rainbows and Dolly Varden. I think the sockeye run is almost over, but there may be a few stragglers. The secret is to target the silver fish and avoid the red spawners. Egg flies or nymphs for the rainbows, smaller salmon flies for the sockeyes. Use lots of lead to get flies down deep for the rainbows -- dont be subtle.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 3:27:33 AM UTC+10, Terry C wrote:

My son Colin is in Alaska and has time on Friday to go fishing. Anyone ever hire a guide out of Cooper Landing they can recommend thanks .

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Potomac too hot to fish right now from Anacostia to Georgetown??

I have to admit, almost every weekend this time of year I try to get out of here and head west to cooler temps and cooler streams/rivers. And I will this weekend. However, I have some downtime at work and can leave a little earlier than normal. Given the big fish kill in the gardens, is it even worth it to try and fish the Washington Channel, Tidal Basin, bridges and structure on DC side of Potomac to Gtown or is the water too hot? I know I can throw some blue gill head on a circle hook and throw it in the Washington channel and catch blue cats until my arms fall off, but I am curious if other spots are worth the effort in the weekday afternoons. Thanks.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cooper Landing Alaska

Thanks, I told him, he going to give him a call.

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 1:30:05 PM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:

Yes! Mike Adams! See my trip report here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tidal-potomac-fly-rodders/alaska%7Csort:relevance/tidal-potomac-fly-rodders/Kc4u2LXv49w/wGZjPpgaAgAJ

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cooper Landing Alaska

Yes! Mike Adams! See my trip report here:

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cooper Landing Alaska

My son Colin is in Alaska and has time on Friday to go fishing. Anyone ever hire a guide out of Cooper Landing they can recommend thanks .

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Upper Potomac from Dam 4 to Shepardstown Recommendations?

Thanks Richard!

We ended up doing the float to Snyder's Landing in a canoe, with a small trolling motor attached and an anchor. Total time with stops at likely holes and deep spots was about 8 hours.

All in all, pretty good day! I pulled in a bunch of smallies and bluegill with both poppers and clouser minnow streamers, my poor father got skunked on his spinning tackle. Great stretch of river, but in my opinion the best fishing was right near Snyder's landing where the river was not so deep, had a lot of success dropping poppers onto holes in the weeds and watching smallmouths rise right up to them, or strike hard. Upriver near the dam was either too deep for floating line (all I had) or moving pretty fast with few pools or obvious places to cast too. This whole stretch of river was lousy with HUGE carp, and we saw one musky cruising in one of the flat stretches.

Great trip!

Thanks,

Michael

On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 12:02:01 PM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:

Michael,

In regards to your Dam 4 to Shepherdstown. Should be a good time.

It depends on what you're floating in, and river levels. Right now the river is fine and the gauge is 1.37 feet. Check this gauge - http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?01638500 When it goes up after rains, it gets a little dirty and the flows move you faster. Will you be in a canoe? Driftboats? Pontoon? Inner tire? It can be a long day all the way to Shepherdstown. This is an ALL DAY trip if your start early and you fish it properly.
The fishing can be good. Lots of smallmouth, panfish, carp, and the occasional musky (which you might see early in the morning).
Poppers are good, but there isn't a ton of pocket water like you're used to at Harpers. You'll have long slow pools in between some angled drop-offs and edges to fish. Mix it up between poppers, crayfish patterns, and big baitfish patterns cast to the banks and fished back to you. Tie or buy Gamechangers.
Couple of ideas:
Consider a shorter trip if this is your first time. For a 4 hour trip get out at Taylor's Landing. For a 6 hour trip, take out at Snyder's Landing.
Bring lots of water. It's hot and there's nowhere to really get out and replenish empty water jugs.
Bring spinning gear with you. You'll see folks coming upstream in jet boats with heavy bottom bouncing gear for smallmouth that sit about 20 feet down in the ledges between Taylor's & Snyder's landing. Those smallies are not small at all.
Regards,

R

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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Upper Potomac from Dam 4 to Shepardstown Recommendations?

Hi all,

First time poster and new to the group (and fly fishing) but have enjoyed all the updates and reports so far!

I was thinking of doing a float down the Upper Potomac on Sunday from Dam 4 to Shepardstown. I have a few questions I hope some people can answer:

1) How long does the float down the river take approximately?

2) How is the fishing?

3) What are the best fly patterns this time of year? I've had success with bass poppers down near Harpers Ferry.

4) Any other recommendations?

Thanks!

Michael
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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Inflatable Pontoon Boat

I've not floated the North Branch on it. Generally I use it for smallmouth bass floats. Just a couple weekends ago I floated the Upper James with a bunch of TPFRers and used my foldcat. We encountered a tricky little Class 2 rapid along the way. The boat is extremely stable in those situations and maneuvers well enough (as long as you aren't distracted by your hat being swept off your head by a tree like I was). The only thing you have to watch out for in those situations is loose items falling off the boat, since there are no gunnels. I've floated through the strong rapids around Harper's Ferry with no issue. I imagine it would be great on the North Branch.

One thing I've discovered about it though, it is really easy to hold the boat in place with light rowing in the middle of a riffle. It's a huge advantage. The boat hydroplanes high up in the water column, and it doesn't take much effort to hold the boat in place so your buddy can get an extra cast or three in next to that log or current seam. And you're high up off the water (getting the seat extender for the second seat is the best accessory I've added to the boat). It feels really deluxe.

I'm going to add a significant con to my list though. And that is assembly. Assembly time is not that much greater than with any other boat rig (it always takes time to get ready for a day of floating, plus there's usually a shuttle to run so the 5 extra minutes of setup time usually doesn't matter). But remembering all the parts. Lots o parts. I've forgotten every single critical element along the way at one time or another. The valve that allows you to inflate the boat was particularly memorable. But also the oar mounts one time, inexplicably, didn't make it into my kit. So you have to be really paranoid that you have everything you need. Right now I'm paranoid that my foot pump is going to break, so I need to order another one for backup (might finally get an electric pump to speed assembly time even more - why not).

Hope that helps. It's a great rig, but the logistics of using it can be a bit daunting.

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Sunday, 28 August 2016

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Gunpowder: how low is too low?

Length of the dropper all depends on conditions. Try 18" below the dry fly. You could also try a little longer at first (maybe 24"). Always easier to take away some line than add it!

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Gunpowder: how low is too low?

Thanks Evan, that makes sense. I hit YouTube last night and several people seemed to share your thoughts. Any recommended length to hang that nymph? I'm assuming fairly short with there water levels, but that's a guess.

It was still an amazing time working the river. I'll be back!

On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Evan D <edintaman@gmail.com> wrote:

Gunpowder can be tough, that's for sure. In low, clear water I would ditch the streamers and bugger. The fish aren't going to be as willing to chase them very often in the water conditions we are seeing these days.

If you go back, I would try a dry/dropper rig. Pick something that floats really well and hang a small nymph off of it. For me, the smaller the nymph the better. Size 16-20.

Obviously, this is all personal preference - a double nymph rig could work just as well. Nonetheless, my general rule of thumb is to skip the streamers on low, clear, hot, and sunny days.

Hope this helps!
Evan

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{Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Snake River float trip

Late report but got in a trip to Idaho Falls in July. Went out of Heise, ID on a 1/2 day float.

Using guide's gear, 9'6" 6wt w. floating line. Set up was long taper leader, big split shot followed by flies. Flies were, what I call a flounder hook, wrapped in chenille, cross wrapped with wire, followed by a Rob Snowhite special, wiggly worm. We were imitating earthworms.

For the wet flys, I put about 12 fish to hand.

The idea was to cast to deeper pools off the gravel bars. Chucking all that weight was kinda tricky because the loops were UGLY. I got the hang of it and casting was not an issue. The average fish was a 19-20" beautiful brown. These strong guys would hold at the bottom of the river and if they took the fly, they were strong in the river. We chased a few down stream and settled on the gravel bar. Guide looks downstream and tells me to chill out and watch 20 feet below us. Smaller browns were taking dry flys off the surface. We cast to them for about 20 mins, It was so much fun but we had trouble keeping them on because of the bad hook setting angle. Each hook set was poor and they would pop off after a leap or 2.

The trip continue to the same result landing on a gravel bar when we came upon a bend in the river. We could see trout taking dries again. Fortunately the wind cooperated and the casting was pretty good, I stuck this beautiful cuttie on the dry. Watched him from about 8 feet come up and take the dry. A great fight on 4x tippet.

An awesome 1/2 day trip with 15+ brought to hand.

All fish were safely released back to the Snake.

Later that night I did a few minutes of self guided fishing and scored this feisty little brownie on a dry.

Little experience on dry fly fishing before and now I see the allure.

Didn't get a pic of the rainbow but I got the Snake slam.

Guide name provided via PM if interested.

Highly recommended.

Thanks for looking.

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Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Gunpowder: how low is too low?

Gunpowder can be tough, that's for sure. In low, clear water I would ditch the streamers and bugger. The fish aren't going to be as willing to chase them very often in the water conditions we are seeing these days.

If you go back, I would try a dry/dropper rig. Pick something that floats really well and hang a small nymph off of it. For me, the smaller the nymph the better. Size 16-20.

Obviously, this is all personal preference - a double nymph rig could work just as well. Nonetheless, my general rule of thumb is to skip the streamers on low, clear, hot, and sunny days.

Hope this helps!
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Saturday, 27 August 2016

Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Gunpowder: how low is too low?

Got skunked today for my first trip out to the Gunpowder. My son caught a 10 inch bass right next to Prettyboy. I saw the fish but I think I need to work on my stealth mode...I saw them as the made a run for it! I was using a small black wooly bugger. Another guy was using an Adams fly on a tenkara and said he pick up 7 small trout from falls to Prettyboy.

Any suggestions for a rookie?

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RE: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} 25 flies a day for 25 days

Great, Jim. Thanks, Al

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Just finished the 25 a day fly tying challenge to bring awareness to the 22 vets each day that commit suicide. All flies are headed to project healing waters to be used in their programs.

Jim

The Catcher and the Fly

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·       Random question about dog training for upland game - 2 Updates
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·       Upper Potomac from Dam 4 to Shepardstown Recommendations? - 1 Update
·       Inflatable Pontoon Boat - 1 Update
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Random question about dog training for upland game
Alex Large <alarge1@gmail.com>: Aug 25 01:22PM

I run my Brittany on a Garmin Delta Sport. Works great, never had a problem
with it.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:50 PM Tim Donaldson <timdonaldson@gmail.com>
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"Carl Z." <carl.zmola0@gmail.com>: Aug 25 07:41PM -0400

You could get a tracking collar so you can find him later. :)

Yes they can outgrow this type of thing, but not always. I don't have a
hunting dog, but by 4, my dog was able to not chase deer too far.
1) you have to be consistent in your training, having a household pet that
you get rambutious with and an excellent hunting dog are, while not
mutually exclusive, very hard to accomplish and you are dealing with a
compromise. Just accept some of that.
2) Part of the deer issue is you being attuned to his signals and getting
his attention before it is completely zoned in on the deer. It's also
training the dog handler.

Carl

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"Carl Z." <carl.zmola0@gmail.com>: Aug 25 07:39PM -0400

That's not supposed to happen until the baby arrives.

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Upper Potomac from Dam 4 to Shepardstown Recommendations?
Michael Matheke-Fischer <michael.matheke@gmail.com>: Aug 25 03:44PM -0700

Hi all,

First time poster and new to the group (and fly fishing) but have enjoyed
all the updates and reports so far!

I was thinking of doing a float down the Upper Potomac on Sunday from Dam 4
to Shepardstown. I have a few questions I hope some people can answer:

1) How long does the float down the river take approximately?

2) How is the fishing?

3) What are the best fly patterns this time of year? I've had success with
bass poppers down near Harpers Ferry.

4) Any other recommendations?

Thanks!

Michael
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Inflatable Pontoon Boat
ALarge <alarge1@gmail.com>: Aug 25 10:31AM -0700

bump** Misha- have you floated any tailwaters like NB Potomac in your
FoldCat? I'm considering purchasing one for ease of storage but have never
seen one on moving water. How would you rate it?

On Saturday, February 23, 2013 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-5, Misha Gill wrote:
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Andrew Chaney <andrewjchaney@gmail.com>: Aug 25 08:52AM -0700

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iba7kCnkFos
Bryan Lanier <bryan.lanier@gmail.com>: Aug 25 01:10PM -0400

That was pretty freaking cool!

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This guy gives puts a whole new concept on the idea of "fly" fishing.
Marek Rich <mrich@ScheerPartners.com>: Aug 25 03:57PM

That is pretty fantastic!

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This guy gives puts a whole new concept on the idea of "fly" fishing.
Andrew Chaney <andrewjchaney@gmail.com>: Aug 25 08:51AM -0700

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